keith said:
So buy it and read it. You're in for an eye-opener.
Show me where the official version is on sale for $18
Or so arrogant that you cannot let go of a long held belief in the tooth
fairy after being told by your dentist that they don't exist. "But my
mommy wouldn't lie."
The tooth fairy? She is married to Jergen Von Strangle, the toughest fairy
in fairy world
They were incompetent, obviously. Your education is sorely lacking as a
result. Add that to your suit.
Let me ask you a simple question, do you know what BiCMOS is? (not a trick
question)
You didn't say "8 bit byte". You said "byte". Even so, you're still
wrong. An 8 bit byte can store numbers from 0 to 255 (unsigned) or -128
to +127 (signed two's compliment).
The "nope" stands.
Its not rare and can be redefined. The definition of a "byte" is dot
fixed at a certain size. Get over it. Learn your lesson and move along.
You have never shown any evidence of this being the current standard, yet
you continue to claim the byte definition is arbitrary, and want to hurry to
change the subject now when there is nothing to support what you thought was
an arbitrary byte size
If they were selling it to be used in a 16 bit byte machine, sure (wrong
way, but I get your drift). Since they're advertizing it (and it's
formatted for) a system that uses 8 bit bytes they have to be consistent
with the size.
I bet it torques your jaws that they measure the size in
decimal too.
right, 4 bit byte would double it not 16. but decimal? not a problem
Six bit bytes were common. IIRC the CDC Ciber series had a 60bit
word and a 6bit byte. As has been noted IBM talks of a 10bit byte in one
of the I/O processors.
the CDC Cyber series, but is there any documentation on those old Seymore
designs? how can we verify the internal cpu stuff anymore? They got much
of the architecture from Univac some would argue
And since we are being detailed, the 10 bit byte in an IBM (a small
typewriter company that doesnt influence the computer world) uses an 8 bit
byte for data, and 2 bits for parity. Therefore that 10 bit byte IS an 8
bit byte, parity is not part of the byte data, its a wrapper
Nope. It' used by the ignorant to mean eight bits, or it's understood by
the context that it's eight bits. A byte is in no way defined as being
eight bits though.
Violence? No. Frustration with a pig-headed troll? Certainly.
Im here responding and taking smack from people and discussing the point,
hardly trollish. newbie to the forum, yes.
More than half that, but I was doing binary (and in all bases up to 32 -
got awkward above) in fifth grade, well more than forty years ago. You
simply sounded like a snot-nosed kid who thinks he knows everything.
Yeah, a lot of people say that.
How many bits are in a byte?
You're hopeless. I hope you're not involved in any engineering more
complicated than a toaster
I was trying to get work at a nuke u lar facility doing control systems.
seriously
Did I say anything about parity or prepresentations of binary numbers?
I'm talking about sizeof(byte) *not* being fixed at eight. It is
*usually* equal to eight, but if you assume that it's a fact it will come
back to byte someone. ;-)
sizeof() sounds very C-ish and in 100% of the time, is 8 bits wide, in
application. The only thing close to challenging this is a quote from a
$400 book that probably doesnt have pictures, that says byte is at least 8
bits.
Find anywhere in C code today that redefines sizeof(byte) as other than 8
bits that would suggest the byte isnt commonly 8 bits. I would design a
nuke u lar system controller thing and rest assured a byte is 8 bits and not
worry at all.
Sizeof(char) or ulong or ushort? They are all relative.
IBM? Yes. The official 'C' Standard. Yes. Life? Yes. Get over it,
you're wrong.
what does ibm ( a small typewriter company) have to do with the official C
standard?
I've proven your definition wrong by example. There are many
"microprocessors" that are *not* microprogrammed. There are many
microprogrammed processors that are *not* microprocessors. An IBM 360 is
hardly a microprocessor, though the "same architecture" some forty
years later, known as the z-Series are, in fact, microprocessors. Some
models are microprogrammed, some are hard-wired. The terms are othogonal.
Yet you've not shown one authoritative example of a VAX-11/780 being
called a "microprocessor".
The dispute was that some thought my calling it 11/780 cpu somehow implied
the entire system. Have you ever seen a real working 11/780? Ever taken
out the cpu board set?
its micro programmed, IIRC
They're afraid you couldn't learn the process.
That should be a challenge for an MBA type, to apply to McD as someone
needing a job, get hired, do well, make improvements, get some award etc and
not tell them about the MBA thing, do it for the exercise.
!
You can continue life being ignorant or you can learn. Your choice.
Im not from Missouri but you just have to show me. I think when we examine
the details of a web link we do not actually find a change in byte size
definition. I like to learn but need fact checking, not assuming something.
Somebody said that if "I" claimed the sky was blue they would double check
it? Good for you! Thats how it should be, not kissing somebodys back end
and assuming they can make decisions for you, learn to do the work yourself.
I know what an 026 is, and an 029. I used them in college, and a couple
of times since. 2629 to me is the model number of my laptop (ThinkPad
A21p).
My guess is that you're not talking about a ThinkPad.
No, the original punched card equipment
http://www.iso.org/iso/en/CatalogueDetailPage.CatalogueDetail?CSNUMBER=7606&scopelist=
I guess ISO 2629:1973 isnt used much anymore. It was one of those tactics
that ibm (a small typewriter comany) used to force equipment makers to adopt
one standard so they could get competitors to copy it, then ibm would change
and make the best equipment with a different standard, forcing smaller
companies out of business.
To clean up your messes, no doubt.
No, I mean people tend to be lazy and pawn off work onto others or spend the
time web surfing. If you can imagine, people get annoyed with me when Im
persistent and in their business asking for results at work. I drive people
to get results, irritating them like nails across the blackboard which I
find soothing to listen to. In past jobs co workers complained about me,
the managers wanted to promote me. doesnt make sense.