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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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one border guard or one airport security guard.

But I guess Barry wants to make spending cut as
painful as possible.

Mikek
 
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Charlie E.

Jan 1, 1970
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one border guard or one airport security guard.

But I guess Barry wants to make spending cut as
painful as possible.

Mikek
As I see it, if he were a responsible administrator, we should now
have on a web page somewhere EXACTLY how he will handle the sequester.
It should detail cuts to each department, how many positions or
furloughs this cut will involve, and how it will be administered.

Instead of professionalism, we get doom and gloom, and the sense that
the word came down from the WH to make the cuts as painful as possible
to the american people...
 
As I see it, if he were a responsible administrator, we should now
have on a web page somewhere EXACTLY how he will handle the sequester.
It should detail cuts to each department, how many positions or
furloughs this cut will involve, and how it will be administered.

imagine the out cry if he starts to micro manage every department in
every states that needs to cut spending

isn't figuring out how to make the budget add up, up to the
congress?
Instead of professionalism, we get doom and gloom, and the sense that
the word came down from the WH to make the cuts as painful as possible
to the american people...

It has always been like that, when faced with cuts people pick the
most
painful thing they can find in the hope that they can get the public
all
fired up and scare the politicians to cancel the cuts



-Lasse
 
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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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As I see it, if he were a responsible administrator, we should now
have on a web page somewhere EXACTLY how he will handle the sequester.
It should detail cuts to each department, how many positions or
furloughs this cut will involve, and how it will be administered.

Instead of professionalism, we get doom and gloom, and the sense that
the word came down from the WH to make the cuts as painful as possible
to the American people...

The real shame is, in 2012 the US Gov. spent 3.8 trillion dollars.
The tax revenue was 2.5 trillion dollars. The overspending was 1.3
trillion dollars.

And they want to cut 85 billion?

And even if they do that cut, they are spending more than in 2012.

It is sick.
 
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Charlie E.

Jan 1, 1970
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imagine the out cry if he starts to micro manage every department in
every states that needs to cut spending

isn't figuring out how to make the budget add up, up to the
congress?


It has always been like that, when faced with cuts people pick the
most
painful thing they can find in the hope that they can get the public
all
fired up and scare the politicians to cancel the cuts



-Lasse
No, it is the EXECUTIVE branch that actually is supposed to do things.
All the legislative branch is supposed to do is APPROVE the budget.
Now, that may not be what has happened in recent years, but that is
more to do with power grabs by the congress, and timidity in the WH...
 
one border guard or one airport security guard.



But I guess Barry wants to make spending cut as

painful as possible.



Mikek

The DoD has already released a list of state-by-state furloughs and amounts.. As usual California is on top:
http://www.federalnewsradio.com/pdfs/022013_DoD_Civ_Furloughs_state_by_state.pdf

This is only the beginning. The honeymoon is over, the U.S. has to streamline its government and get the spending control very soon. The cutbacks willbe on the increase for the next decade. The era of fake prosperity funded by borrowed money to fund useless people, places and projects are over.
 
No, it is the EXECUTIVE branch that actually is supposed to do things.

All the legislative branch is supposed to do is APPROVE the budget.

Now, that may not be what has happened in recent years, but that is

more to do with power grabs by the congress, and timidity in the WH...

You don't know what you're talking about. Specifically the Congress authorizes all spending through very specific legislation. It is against the law for the executive branch to re-program that funding for any purpose other than specified in the authorization.
 
As I see it, if he were a responsible administrator, we should now

have on a web page somewhere EXACTLY how he will handle the sequester.

It should detail cuts to each department, how many positions or

furloughs this cut will involve, and how it will be administered.


Wait... wait... Our Dear Leader does not have such a webpage?

(Oh the horror)

haha

Michael
 
Instead of cultural sensitivity training they need to send all the

managers to a Dave Ramsey class.

What managers? You mean that crowd who wouldn't be trusted to manage the sales counter at a QuickMart?
 
The DoD has already released a list of state-by-state furloughs and amounts. As usual California is on top:

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/pdfs/022013_DoD_Civ_Furloughs_state_by_state.pdf


Virginia seems to be hammered quite a bit more than CA tho...?

This is only the beginning. The honeymoon is over, the U.S. has to streamline its government and get the spending control very soon. The cutbacks will be on the increase for the next decade. The era of fake prosperity funded by borrowed money to fund useless people, places and projects are over.



Where to, then? I hear Australia is doing quite well...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21519050

=)
 
It has always been like that, when faced with cuts people pick the

most

painful thing they can find in the hope that they can get the public

all

fired up and scare the politicians to cancel the cuts

Maybe, but now they're getting the public all fired up about things like lost benefits, lost deductions, and increased taxes across the board. That scares them more than anything else.
 
That's the concentration in the Va-Md-DC beltway epicenter of bureaucracy.







Australia will welcome you as permanent resident if you maintain $AUD500K in one of their banks.


Maintain, you say? Aww. Ok, fine, we'll just fight it out here.
 
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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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What managers? You mean that crowd who wouldn't be trusted to manage the sales counter at a QuickMart?

The managers all know that if they have money left before Oct. they
need to spend it all, so they will get more next year.

Mikek
 
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:40:44 -0800 (PST),
Maybe, but now they're getting the public all fired up about things like lost benefits, lost deductions, and increased taxes across the board. That scares them more than anything else.

The sequester has nothing to do with "increased taxes", at least yet.
Obama is trying...
 
The managers all know that if they have money left before Oct. they

need to spend it all, so they will get more next year.



Mikek

They call it "burning up the money"- usually as the expiration of funds approaches they pull out all the stops doing any and everything they can to get rid of that money. It is not unusual for any old sorry little nobody to have the authority to squander millions. The only way to fix the problem is to starve them into submission.
 
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rickman

Jan 1, 1970
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The real shame is, in 2012 the US Gov. spent 3.8 trillion dollars.
The tax revenue was 2.5 trillion dollars. The overspending was 1.3
trillion dollars.

And they want to cut 85 billion?

And even if they do that cut, they are spending more than in 2012.

It is sick.

There were years when we had a surplus. Why do you think that was? Do
you think it was because we cut spending dramatically? Do you think it
was because we raised taxed dramatically?
 
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Charlie E.

Jan 1, 1970
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Not quite. Read the Constitution. ALL spending bills must pass in
the House.

...Jim Thompson
Yes, they have to PASS the house, but they don't have to originate
there. In a company, you don't have the board of directories create
the budget, they just approve it...
 
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Charlie E.

Jan 1, 1970
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:31:12 -0800 (PST),
You don't know what you're talking about. Specifically the Congress authorizes all spending through very specific legislation. It is against the law for the executive branch to re-program that funding for any purpose other than specified in the authorization.

Again, they AUTHORIZE it, often now in way too specific legislation.
It was all a power grab by the Congress to control the executive
branch by tightening the purse strings.
 
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