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TheBeast

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Hi all.
Could anybody please tell me what the part is that has burned out?
It is from a Clarke gas space heater (Devil 1600)
Would save me having to buy a whole new circuit board.
Many thanks!

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Bluejets

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Looks like a fusible resistor, possibly 2W , value unknown.
There will obviously be other defective parts as well.
Might be an off chance of measuring the resistance.
Others have the resistance value marked on the board, perhaps still be able to make it out before you disturb anything.
 

Martaine2005

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Looks like a fuse or fusible resistor.
Can you see any reference printed near it?
Example: F1 or FR1 or R1.

Martin
 

TheBeast

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Thanks for your replies Bluejets and Martaine2005. Much appreciated!

I've managed to get 'the thing' :) of the board and turns out to be rather fragile. The outer layer has now partly come off. Perhaps this helps with identifying it?

I measured it but it gives an infinite resistance.

Had a look at the circuit board and could make out a R1.

How likely is it to be just this...? Could it be just that, or is it more likely to be the effect and not the cause of a problem?

Above it in the picture you can see this black cylinder which I suspect has something to do with the igniter. When looking at the bottom of it (where it touches the circuit board) it looks somewhat brown too...
I'm all for trying to fix things but wondering if this is realistically a lost cause for an amateur like myself.

Many thanks!
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How likely is it to be just this...

The chance that this is the entire fault rounds to approximately 0%

This is the result of either a long term significant overload, or a failure of something that caused excess current draw.

If this had failed quickly, the board would likely be less charred.
 

TheBeast

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The chance that this is the entire fault rounds to approximately 0%

This is the result of either a long term significant overload, or a failure of something that caused excess current draw.

If this had failed quickly, the board would likely be less charred.
I like your approximation! Very accurate :)
 

bertus

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The resistor is clearly burned by a very long time overload.

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TheBeast

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Thanks to all that have taken the time to comment. I think I will have to bite the bullet and order a new circuit board. Hopefully the thing that caused the burn out is not related to any of the peripherals but (for me anyway) it is only one way to find out...
Cheers
 

TheBeast

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Hello,

When I read the manual, the PCB you show seems to be a flame control board.
https://www.clarkeservice.co.uk/manuals/gas_heaters/Devil1600_Gas_Heater_ISS_4.pdf
As safety would come at the first place, I would buy a new board in stead of trying to repair it.

Bertus

Thanks Bertus.
Yeah, guess you are right. With my limited electrical knowledge and soldering abilities, I would probably do more harm than good!
Could you think of any of the parts that are connected to the board (spark plugs, thermocouple, etc) that could cause this kind of fault please or is it most likely simply a case of old age of the board...? I suspect it is probably impossible to call without checking it out in person but wouldn't want to burn the new board out as soon as I connect it...
 

bertus

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Hello,

There are not so many parts connected to the board:
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It could be that the ignition coil has problems.
There will be a new one on the new board.
You could also check if the motor is turning freely.

Bertus
 

TheBeast

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Thanks Bertus, it is appreciated. The motor runs well (even with the burned out resistor so I suspect didn't caused it.
I'm hoping it is the ignition coil (assuming it is the black cylinder on the PCB..?) and all should be well again after replacing the board.
I'm ordering one tomorrow and will post here ones I have it installed.
Thanks again!
 

TheBeast

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I'm ordering one tomorrow and will post here ones I have it installed.
...
Just in case someone has the same issue in the future and is thinking of ordering a PCB too, please note that apparently there are 2 different circuit boards for the Devil 1600.
Person I spoke to suspects that the one I was sent is actually from a newer model, which their ordering system didn't highlight. I suspect it would have also worked but went for the cautious approach and am sending it back. Unfortunately the other pcb will not be in stock until the 25th so will have to wait some more.
 

TheBeast

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Hi all. A final post to say that the replacement of the PCB did the trick!

For reference, the part that worked on my version is:
"ZKG85K230400CE" and is called 'CL FLAME CONTROL'.

What I didn't know (and found out when I fired her up for the first time) is that this heater is continues ignition type (so sparking even after lit). Perhaps this caused the original part PCB to burn out..?

Thanks again for those that assisted me here. Karma points heading your way:)
 
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