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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios

Jan 1, 1970
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering,freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
? "Roy L. Fuchs said:
The operating system itself is more CPU intensive and has more
process threads running at any given time. So, even the OS is
"bloatware" nowadays. A very slow CPU would make for a very slow
operation and GUI for you. Not a desirable thing.
Yeah, right.Open msconfig and see what loads when your computer starts.Even
if you disable (almost) everything that runs on startup, there are still
*dozens* of services, most of them all but useless.And try to run a modern
game,like doom 3 or half life 2!(I use still autocad r14, though, for the
couple of drawings I use every year).
 
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios

Jan 1, 1970
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering,freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
? "Roy L. Fuchs said:
There are plenty of ACTIVE process threads that are ALWAYS running
on say an XP machine that did not exist on say a Win2K or DOS machine.
Allow me to disagree.I run win 2k greek, and it's very resource-hungry.I
have 512 MB, celeron 2.4 GHz and geforce 4 mx 440.
 
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios

Jan 1, 1970
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering,freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
? "zadoc said:
|>Hello Jim,
|>
|>
|>> I rarely travel with Laptop anymore... no room to drop the tray and
|>> actually get fingers onto keyboard :-(
|>>
|>
|>I don't either but for me it's because of the paltry battery runtimes of
|>'modern' laptops. From 5hrs in 90's to 1.5hrs in the new millenium. What
|>a progress.
|>
|>Regards, Joerg
|>
|>

<Zadoc comment starts>

I don't have a laptop, so have never considered the problem of
short battery life. Can see why it could be a problem, though.
Presume that "X" is a US businessman flying to Australia. I
don't know the current flight time offhand, but say 16 hours,
which seems well beyond the battery capacity of most portables.

Now lets presume for a moment that most would run from a plug in
adapter off mains voltage of 120 VAC 60 Hz or 240 VAC 50 Hz.

The international airline business is pretty competitive. The
fares are regulated by IATA but there is more flexibility on the
services provided.

So how much trouble would it be for an airline to provide power
to each seat position so they could advertise that a businessman
could use his portable all the way without draining the
batteries?

I would think this might be a good selling point.

Of course, providing mains voltage to each seat position might be
inconvienent or even risky. It would be better to provide the
proper DC voltage at the proper polarity for any computer, or for
that matter, or for that matter, any personal entertainment
device.

Computers and entertainment devices take different input voltages
at different polarities, so, as an intellectual excercise, what
would be the best and cheapest way for an airline to implement
such a service?

Now, sure each seat position could have a wide range of plugs and
sockets, but if the passenger plugs his computer into the wrong
one and fries it, he or she won't be happy.

How can this be made idiot-proof to the point that the passenger
booking a seat could be asked if he will be bringing a portable
computer, and if so, its details.

I would think that all he should have to do is to say that he had
a brand "XYZ" model "1234" and when he boarded the proper DC
power cord would be waiting to serve him.

Same for his wife and kids, perhaps, if they are going on a
holiday. Each seat position should be able to accomodate a wide
variety of entertainment devices.

Perhaps one of you engineering types can pick up the concept and
sell it to an airline?
</ Zadoc comment ends>

An American in Australia, posting to misc.survivalism

Cheers,
[email protected]
How about this?
Use a laptop as long as a its battery lasts.Then use ordinary pad with a
pen.I don't think it's possible to have dc voltage on seats, dc supply are
not standardised unlike ac plugs and supplies.It would be easier to have a
120 volt plug directly from the plane's electric system, but maybe only for
expensive business class seats?It could be also dangerous or lethal if one
passenger spilt his soda right on the plug.
 
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios

Jan 1, 1970
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering,freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
? "Ian Malcolm said:
zadoc said:
Joerg wrote:
|>Hello Jim,
|>
|>> I rarely travel with Laptop anymore... no room to drop the tray and
|>> actually get fingers onto keyboard :-(
|>
|>I don't either but for me it's because of the paltry battery runtimes of
|>'modern' laptops. From 5hrs in 90's to 1.5hrs in the new millenium. What
|>a progress.
|>
|>Regards, Joerg

<Zadoc comment starts>

I don't have a laptop, so have never considered the problem of
short battery life. Can see why it could be a problem, though.
Presume that "X" is a US businessman flying to Australia. I
don't know the current flight time offhand, but say 16 hours,
which seems well beyond the battery capacity of most portables.

Now lets presume for a moment that most would run from a plug in
adapter off mains voltage of 120 VAC 60 Hz or 240 VAC 50 Hz.

The international airline business is pretty competitive. The
fares are regulated by IATA but there is more flexibility on the
services provided.

So how much trouble would it be for an airline to provide power
to each seat position so they could advertise that a businessman
could use his portable all the way without draining the
batteries?

I would think this might be a good selling point.

Of course, providing mains voltage to each seat position might be
inconvienent or even risky. It would be better to provide the
proper DC voltage at the proper polarity for any computer, or for
that matter, or for that matter, any personal entertainment
device.

Computers and entertainment devices take different input voltages
at different polarities, so, as an intellectual excercise, what
would be the best and cheapest way for an airline to implement
such a service?

Now, sure each seat position could have a wide range of plugs and
sockets, but if the passenger plugs his computer into the wrong
one and fries it, he or she won't be happy.

How can this be made idiot-proof to the point that the passenger
booking a seat could be asked if he will be bringing a portable
computer, and if so, its details.

I would think that all he should have to do is to say that he had
a brand "XYZ" model "1234" and when he boarded the proper DC
power cord would be waiting to serve him.

Same for his wife and kids, perhaps, if they are going on a
holiday. Each seat position should be able to accomodate a wide
variety of entertainment devices.

Perhaps one of you engineering types can pick up the concept and
sell it to an airline?
</ Zadoc comment ends>
Like all good ideas someone else has had it before you. See
<http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=475832>
for details of how to get your laptop hooked up.



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Really nice.But I'd like to see a photo of that empower thingy.Has anyone
from USA boarded the german ICE (InterCityExpress) train?It has a headphone
outlet on every seat, including all economy seats, and on some seats even
small lcd panels!You can choose music, usually what krauts love, also
classical, to listen to your headphones, and there are small panels on the
corridors showing the train's speed!
 
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Roy L. Fuchs

Jan 1, 1970
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Allow me to disagree.I run win 2k greek, and it's very resource-hungry.

I didn't say that Win2k was not process intensive. I said it is
LESS process intensive than XP is. As it happens Win2k is still the
choice by gamers.
I
have 512 MB, celeron 2.4 GHz and geforce 4 mx 440.

Whatever. Tell us...

Why do you begin your posts with your sig? It belongs at the bottom,
and you are going to end up in a lot of kill files with the way you
currently post.
 
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Gunner

Jan 1, 1970
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I didn't say that Win2k was not process intensive. I said it is
LESS process intensive than XP is. As it happens Win2k is still the
choice by gamers.
I

Quite true. Ive converted most of my :housekeeping" boxes to Win2k
for just this reason..resource usage is much smaller.

Ive a 250mhz laptop that was originally running Win98. On a lark..I
tried XP..no go. Its currently been running Win2k for well over a year
now with no issues noted.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
 
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Zak

Jan 1, 1970
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Spehro said:
I don't think the energy density and weight of typical consumer NiMH
batteries is anywhere near the Li batteries that they use in laptops.
My Sony-Ericcson cell has a tiny flat Li polymer battery that is rated
900mAh @3.6V. Only 48 x 34 x 5.5mm, and very light. Compare with 3
NiMH AA cells with less capacity, much heavier and far bulkier.

3 NiMH AAs will be heavier and bulkier, but also have more capacity: 1.2
volts @ 2500 mAh each.


Thomas
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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3 NiMH AAs will be heavier and bulkier, but also have more capacity: 1.2
volts @ 2500 mAh each.

Sorry, I meant to write "AAA" cells, although I see they've progressed
past the 750mA level recently to about the same level. "AA" cells are
not in the same class, in size or capacity.



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios

Jan 1, 1970
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? "Spehro Pefhany said:
DSLRs are fairly chunky, but point taken.


You'll probably quickly find that many of the clever 'features' are
designed to channel moolah from your wallet into their coffers.
Downloadable ringtones (charge each), web browsing (extra charge),
camera (costs to get photos out of it) etc. etc. Of the free
features, they really don't cost much. You've already got a ton of
processing power in those things. The features I use most- phone
(dunh), clock/calendar (when I don't have a watch on), and calculator
(comes in *really* handy at times to have a 4-function calculator).
voice dialing is the handiest sophisticated feature.
Yeah, mine has even a torch, very useful when working somewhere
dark.Otherwise it's the cheapest one from Nokia;-)
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
http://www.speff.com
 
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios

Jan 1, 1970
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? said:
True, that's at 20oC, but it sure beats self-discharge of 2-to-4%
per *day*, which is the performance of current cells. I measured just
one Panasonic cell: 2.6% / day.

With this new 'Eneloop' NiMH cell, Sanyo has effectively matched one
of LiIon's compelling advantages, IMHO, plus it drops into the whole
Nixxx infrastructure of devices and chargers. And, of course, the
ability to get alkaline replacements in a pinch just about anywhere in
the world.

I still love LiIon cells, don't get me wrong, but these Eneloops will
find a place in my gadgets to be sure.
Yeah, even the one that came with my camcorder,lasts for more than 90 mins,
my mobile for more than 10 days, but for my digital camera I have
old-fashioned nicds, with a charger/discharger.
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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Yeah, mine has even a torch, very useful when working somewhere
dark.Otherwise it's the cheapest one from Nokia;-)

Now that's a useful feature. My useless phone camera (only useful for
getting it prohibited from change rooms) doesn't have a flash LED, but
for those which do, it might not be that hard to run it continuously
at a fraction of the current. Good for finding dog poop in the dark,
for example.



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Martin H. Eastburn

Jan 1, 1970
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I know hauling a forearm sized bottle of Hydrogen was a NO NO NO! - so it went
in luggage - empty - and had to be fueled on the other end for the work needed,
dumped - since it was contaminated from the local University source - and back
into the packing. Big PITA but fun. Got to meet all sorts of people.

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH & Endowment Member
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder



Jon said:
Hello Cliff,

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/07/ibm_power6_show/

[
The Power6 chip will run between 4GHz and 5GHz, and has been shown to
hum away
at 6GHz in the lab. IBM reckons that some process technology
breakthroughs have
allowed it to kick the frequency higher while still keeping heat and
power
consumption issues under control. All told, IBM claims that Power6
will be twice
as fast as competing server processors from Intel, AMD and Sun
Microsystems.
]

< sarcastic_mode >
Ok, this one is for servers but usually that means the laptop uPs will
be pushed higher as well. Then the bloatware bloats some more, to fill
that new uP with work. Now the runtime of a laptop will go from the
already pathetic 1.5hrs to a half hour or so. 5 minutes of that will
be required for the boot process, another 5 minutes for shutdown.
Leaving about 20 minutes to play solitaire.
< /sarcastic_mode >


Actually, these advances may improve run time by reducing power
consumption.
Yeah bloatware is a real problem, and somebody has to put a lid on this.
I had
hoped Linux would be the sane voice, but they are going the bloat route,
too.

Fuel cell developments are getting pretty close, in fact you can
actually buy
a fuel cell add-on power source today, but it is more expensive than the
laptop.
That is going to change as they go from extreme gadgets to mainstream. The
FAA still has some concerns about people carrying bottles of 100% methanol
around on planes. TSA hasn't even heard about this yet, but they will
have their
say, I'm sure.

Jon
 
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