I know it's dumb from a finance standpoint, but...

[danny burstein]

Ok, the payback time is probably two or three centuries, but
I'd like to at leat think about this.

Situation: I've got an apartment whose main power use is
a manual defrost freezer, pulling about 90 watts when in
use and running about 1/3 of the time. In other words, the
total monthly kw-hr usage is something like 25 kw-hr when I'm
not around (and more, of course, when there).

I can put about 30 square feet of solar cells outside
the window, which would get me something or another...

So what I'd like to do is get some sort of "a/b switch"
which will feed the freezer from the battery bank when
it's charged up, or from the utility line at other times.

Should be a simple concept. Solar cells, battery,
power switcher/controller.

Obviously such stuff is out there, but I'm blanking on
the search term for this controller.

Thanks muchly.

(Oh, and all suggestions appreciated. Even the "you're
a moron, this will never make sense" type).

 

[vaughn]

Should be a simple concept. Solar cells, battery,
power switcher/controller.

I play this mental game also. Heck, I've already got a couple hundred watts of
PV panels and the batteries installed with a charge controller. But even then,
it STILL makes no economic or practical sense for me to try to actually run any
110 VAC loads on a daily basis. So I just run some 12 volt lighting with my
system.

If you WERE to do what you are thinking, one of those small grid-tie inverters
would be the way to go. Forget the batteries.

Vaughn

 

[Bill]

Ok, the payback time is probably two or three centuries, but
I'd like to at leat think about this.

Situation: I've got an apartment whose main power use is
a manual defrost freezer, pulling about 90 watts when in
use and running about 1/3 of the time. In other words, the
total monthly kw-hr usage is something like 25 kw-hr when I'm
not around (and more, of course, when there).

I can put about 30 square feet of solar cells outside
the window, which would get me something or another...

So what I'd like to do is get some sort of "a/b switch"
which will feed the freezer from the battery bank when
it's charged up, or from the utility line at other times.

Should be a simple concept. Solar cells, battery,
power switcher/controller.

Obviously such stuff is out there, but I'm blanking on
the search term for this controller.

Actually it is not so dumb from a financial point of view. For the last 10
years I have been sinking a LOT of money into energy saving things. Anything
I can think of.

And for the last 9 years (skip the last year), people have been telling me
how foolish I am because I could get a better return on my money with
investments...

Well I now have an electric bill of around $32 a month and some of those
"smart investors" now have about $100,000.00 less in their investment
accounts.

I think I'd rather be "dumb" and "foolish"! (No comments out of these people
in the last year or so...)

 

[m II]

in message

Actually it is not so dumb from a financial point of view. For the last 10
years I have been sinking a LOT of money into energy saving things.
Anything I can think of.

And for the last 9 years (skip the last year), people have been telling me
how foolish I am because I could get a better return on my money with
investments...

Well I now have an electric bill of around $32 a month and some of those
"smart investors" now have about $100,000.00 less in their investment
accounts.

I think I'd rather be "dumb" and "foolish"! (No comments out of these
people in the last year or so...)

Perhaps more of a guaranteed payback than money investments?

Mike

 

[m II]

I play this mental game also. Heck, I've already got a couple hundred
watts of PV panels and the batteries installed with a charge controller.
But even then, it STILL makes no economic or practical sense for me to try
to actually run any 110 VAC loads on a daily basis. So I just run some 12
volt lighting with my system.

If you WERE to do what you are thinking, one of those small grid-tie
inverters would be the way to go. Forget the batteries.

Vaughn

What do you have against a good set of batteries that will last 20 or 30
years?

Not the cheap crap you morons like you buy.

Mike

 

[m II]

You could look into RV refrigerators, or find out how much cold space
you really need and buy a smaller fridge.

jsw

That's a moronic thing to suggest. Larger units run more efficiently per
cubic footage.

Mike

 

[m II]

"Josepi" <[email protected]> frogging "m II" <[email protected]>

Perhaps more of a guaranteed payback than money investments?

John

Where you **** with your owned appliances and tools
[electric kettle + pipe wrench) destroying those in
completeness you suggest "guaranteed payback"[sic].
IDIOT!
Here is another link to use in those "cut and paste"
advise jobs for the Dr. Suess generation.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5601107_separate-rusted-galvanized-pipe.html

 

[m II]

"Josepi" <[email protected]> frogging "m II" <[email protected]>

What do you have against a good set of batteries that will last 20 or 30
years?

Not the cheap crap you morons like you buy.

John

Of course you being both a moron and cheap
have nothing to offer as example.

 

[m II]

That's a moronic thing to suggest. Larger units run more efficiently per
cubic footage.

John

The medication affected that thought.
I really have no grip of such complicated things.

Josepi

 

[vaughn]

you morons

Bye
Vaughn

 

[Josepi]

Nothing to do with me. It's Gimmy Boob attempting to forge postings.
Check all the headers.



mike--

Resist being so quick to dismiss fine work you
are not up to speed with, mike.
Gymmy is not capable of any degree of passing
forgery.
IT just pretends in using your head to **** over
many a posted comment. He succeeds as
there are way enough idiots looking in a window
only today.
You have the skills, look carefully and you will
find enough indicators to develop a clue as to
who I am. Someone of a much higher Usenet
set of skills than yourself, even.
The useless **** has been fucking with a group I
am a regular in and doing it for a very long time.
I cannot bust his computers, that is illegal but I
can **** him up where it hurts most - in the groups
he _wants_ to be part of.
Kind of like.. "you want to **** with my group I
will **** with yours".

You could have helped in taking a different route.
You refused, take that lesson and think on what you
would do given the chance again.
Losers as is Gymmy Bob cannot be handled with
filters or complaint. You kick them where it
farking hurts.
Get the picture?
I do believe there will be "collateral damage" and
that is simply unfortunate.
If you were more like your original persona
(in being proactive) some would respect you for
the stance. As it is you may well have to
"cut and run" as you did the last time Gymmy
gave you a whipping.
What I am doing is making sure this time around
others do not ever again have to swallow the
frustration of dealing with his bullshit.
Gymmy is up to no good, not just weird weird
but criminally weird. You get my drift?
No?
Check the cross posting in this post to get some
idea of his true haunts.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
The OP did not set that group line.
That work is all Gymmy's doing.

You take a hold of your nutsack and use that avenue you
were offered, you will be given information that if used
correctly will rid Usenet of Gymmy forever.
Well, at least until he is released.

Your game, mike.