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How to wire lights to flash when it a bass beat comes up

i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures
 
i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures

Try l;ooking for "color organ" circuits. That was a 70s thing that was
the laser light show of it's time. They basically broke the music
spectrum down to 3 or 4 colors of light that lit with the beat.Some
were pretty simple affairs with crude pass filters. You just need the
low pass part.
Basically you hit an SCR or Triac with the stuff that makes it under
the low pass filter you choose.
 
Try l;ooking for "color organ" circuits. That was a 70s thing that was
the laser light show of it's time. They basically broke the music
spectrum down to 3 or 4 colors of light that lit with the beat.Some
were pretty simple affairs with crude pass filters. You just need the
low pass part.
Basically you hit an SCR or Triac with the stuff that makes it under
the low pass filter you choose.

so basicaly buy one, take it apart and use the peices?
 
Try l;ooking for "color organ" circuits. That was a 70s thing that was
the laser light show of it's time. They basically broke the music
spectrum down to 3 or 4 colors of light that lit with the beat.Some
were pretty simple affairs with crude pass filters. You just need the
low pass part.
Basically you hit an SCR or Triac with the stuff that makes it under
the low pass filter you choose.

so basicaly buy one, take it apart and use the peices?
 
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Luhan

Jan 1, 1970
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i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures

Here is what I did lately. It does 5 channels in sofware.

http://members.cox.net/berniekm/organ.html

In your case, all you really need is a low-pass filter at about 150 Hz
driving the lights. A real easy way to do this is to run another
amplifier, crank up the bass boost, and use it to drive some 12 volt
automotive tail lights (10 watts each).

Luhan
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures

LP Filter, followed by envelope detector, followed by a comparator
with an adjustable threshold.

I have a schematic around here somewhere from my late '70's, early
'80's disco boom-box days, but it's a blueprint.

I'll look for it and see if I can get a decent scan.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures

See...

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
Subject: From S.E.D: How to wire lights to flash when it a bass beat
comes up - ColorOrgan.pdf
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

...Jim Thompson
 
Jim said:
See...

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
Subject: From S.E.D: How to wire lights to flash when it a bass beat
comes up - ColorOrgan.pdf
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

...Jim Thompson


um sorry but that didnt help, there is no
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic gruop...
 
Jim said:
If your news provider doesn't carry alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
you are missing out on a lot of posts.

However I've posted it to my website....

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/ColorOrgan.pdf

...Jim Thompson


wow thanks alot for all your help, but thats a bit too much for me, i
dont wanna build a whole thing outta scratch and like pay a whole
lot(up to 200$), plus i dont know how to read schematics very well cuz
im only 15, it would help if u told me something more basic, thnx
 
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Joel Kolstad

Jan 1, 1970
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Luhan said:
Two comments:
1) That's a really impressive analog design.
2) That's why I rather do it with software today.

My impression is that Jim gets paid considerably more than most programmers
do... I think I'd stick with the analog path... :) (Granted, Bill Gates is
the richest guy around, and he didn't need any more smarts than a sharp
high-school kid to implement the technical parts of DOS...)
 
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GregS

Jan 1, 1970
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wow thanks alot for all your help, but thats a bit too much for me, i
dont wanna build a whole thing outta scratch and like pay a whole
lot(up to 200$), plus i dont know how to read schematics very well cuz
im only 15, it would help if u told me something more basic, thnx

http://www.apogeekits.com/color_organ_light_kit.htm

Or other many places with kits, or you may find some built ones also.

greg
 
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Luhan

Jan 1, 1970
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Joel said:
My impression is that Jim gets paid considerably more than most programmers
do... I think I'd stick with the analog path... :) (Granted, Bill Gates is
the richest guy around, and he didn't need any more smarts than a sharp
high-school kid to implement the technical parts of DOS...)


My impression is that Jim knows about 10 times what I do. However,
what I do gets paid pretty well today if you do both software and the
hardware behind it.

When I took up micros, I stopped learning much more about analog and
digital logic design. Its a tradeoff, thats all. I like how much I
can get done with very little effort. I was a big fan of Manard G.
Krebbs.

Luhan
 
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DaveM

Jan 1, 1970
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Luhan said:
My impression is that Jim knows about 10 times what I do. However,
what I do gets paid pretty well today if you do both software and the
hardware behind it.

When I took up micros, I stopped learning much more about analog and
digital logic design. Its a tradeoff, thats all. I like how much I
can get done with very little effort. I was a big fan of Manard G.
Krebbs.

Luhan


WORK!!!????!!!


--
Dave M
MasonDG44 at comcast dot net (Just substitute the appropriate characters in the
address)

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.
 
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DaveM

Jan 1, 1970
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wow thanks alot for all your help, but thats a bit too much for me, i
dont wanna build a whole thing outta scratch and like pay a whole
lot(up to 200$), plus i dont know how to read schematics very well cuz
im only 15, it would help if u told me something more basic, thnx



Here are a few more that might be more to your liking...
http://www.discovercircuits.com/C/color-org.htm
Take your pick.. most are pretty simple, but will do what you want.
If these are too complicated for you, and you don't think you could build the
circuits, find a friend who does have the ability and watch and learn while
he/she builds it. Might be a good time to start learning a very interesting
trade.

Good luck.
--
Dave M
MasonDG44 at comcast dot net (Just substitute the appropriate characters in the
address)

Some days you're the dog, some days the hydrant.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, [snip]

um sorry but that didnt help, there is no
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic gruop...

If your news provider doesn't carry alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
you are missing out on a lot of posts.

However I've posted it to my website....

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/ColorOrgan.pdf

...Jim Thompson


wow thanks alot for all your help, but thats a bit too much for me, i
dont wanna build a whole thing outta scratch and like pay a whole
lot(up to 200$), plus i dont know how to read schematics very well cuz
im only 15, it would help if u told me something more basic, thnx

Only the uppermost row is the "beat" section, the rest are for a color
organ/light chase.

For those of you familiar with the Phoenix area, this circuit and a
boom box design went into the Bobby McGee's on I17 and (IIRC) Dunlap.

...Jim Thompson
 
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ehsjr

Jan 1, 1970
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i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures


Someone in the thread mentioned getting a kit. Here's one:
http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=ML1C

Ed
 
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Palinurus

Jan 1, 1970
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Luhan said:
Here is what I did lately. It does 5 channels in sofware.

http://members.cox.net/berniekm/organ.html
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Impressive. But if those are SSRs you're using for output (I didn't see
a parts list,) then it couldn't do a real proportional output. Except in
a rough, time-proportioning way, which is fine for industrial heaters,
but maybe not so good for visual presentation.
 
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