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  1. m35603

    m35603 Guest

    We have a ADT PC5508z alarm system installed in our house. It is not
    active (i.e., we don't have a contract with ADT) right now. Two days
    ago, the thing started beeping every few seconds, and by looking
    through the manual, I figured out that it was a low battery warning.
    Where in the world is the battery on this thing though? We took the
    keypad off and there doesn't appear to be a battery in it anywhere. The
    manual talks about replacing the battery every three years or so, but
    nowhere can I find anything that tells me where the battery is located.
    I would appreciate any help I can get. I dont' want to call ADT because
    we haven't had one in the last two years, so they probably wouldn't
    want to help us.

    Thank you very much!
    Angie
     
  2. Crash Gordon

    Crash Gordon Guest

    That's just the keypad, look for the main box...usually in a closet
    somewhere. In the main box you will find either a 12v 7amphour sealed
    lead-acid battery or knowing ADT it will be a 12v 3amphour sealed lead acid
    battery. Find box, go buy new battery and replace it.


    | We have a ADT PC5508z alarm system installed in our house. It is not
    | active (i.e., we don't have a contract with ADT) right now. Two days
    | ago, the thing started beeping every few seconds, and by looking
    | through the manual, I figured out that it was a low battery warning.
    | Where in the world is the battery on this thing though? We took the
    | keypad off and there doesn't appear to be a battery in it anywhere. The
    | manual talks about replacing the battery every three years or so, but
    | nowhere can I find anything that tells me where the battery is located.
    | I would appreciate any help I can get. I dont' want to call ADT because
    | we haven't had one in the last two years, so they probably wouldn't
    | want to help us.
    |
    | Thank you very much!
    | Angie
    |
     
  3. m35603

    m35603 Guest

    Well, duh, no wonder we couldn't find a battery in the keypad if the
    battery is in the main box. LOL! Would be nice if they'd put this in
    the manual for us uneducated ones.

    Thanks so much!
    Angie
     
  4. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    That's normally info you'd find in the installer's manual... they've probably
    only left behind a user's manual.

    Why would they want you replacing the battery youself, when they can charge you
    a small fortune for a service call to come out and do a 10-minute job?
     
  5. Crash Gordon

    Crash Gordon Guest

    Probably because the alarm company usually services the system. The
    batteries are not easily available, you have to buy them from a specialty
    battery store (Batteries Batteries, Battery Patrol, Batteries R Us..blah
    blah blah) - or online. Besides alarm systems should be serviced every year
    are so by an alarm tech and one of those service calls would also include
    changing the battery (which only last 3-5 years).

    And DON'T just throw the old battery in the garbage, it contains lead -
    please dispose of it properly.

    DO clip off the terminals of the old battery to prevent shorting and
    starting a fire.

    Yer welcome...and be careful

    Oh yeah...write the DATE you changed the battery on the battery with a
    Sharpie and plan on replacing it again in 3-4 years.



    | Well, duh, no wonder we couldn't find a battery in the keypad if the
    | battery is in the main box. LOL! Would be nice if they'd put this in
    | the manual for us uneducated ones.
    |
    | Thanks so much!
    | Angie
    |
    |
    | Crash Gordon wrote:
    | > That's just the keypad, look for the main box...usually in a closet
    | > somewhere. In the main box you will find either a 12v 7amphour sealed
    | > lead-acid battery or knowing ADT it will be a 12v 3amphour sealed lead
    acid
    | > battery. Find box, go buy new battery and replace it.
    | >
    | >
    | > | > | We have a ADT PC5508z alarm system installed in our house. It is not
    | > | active (i.e., we don't have a contract with ADT) right now. Two days
    | > | ago, the thing started beeping every few seconds, and by looking
    | > | through the manual, I figured out that it was a low battery warning.
    | > | Where in the world is the battery on this thing though? We took the
    | > | keypad off and there doesn't appear to be a battery in it anywhere.
    The
    | > | manual talks about replacing the battery every three years or so, but
    | > | nowhere can I find anything that tells me where the battery is
    located.
    | > | I would appreciate any help I can get. I dont' want to call ADT
    because
    | > | we haven't had one in the last two years, so they probably wouldn't
    | > | want to help us.
    | > |
    | > | Thank you very much!
    | > | Angie
    | > |
    |
     
  6. Crash Gordon

    Crash Gordon Guest

    Not everyone charges a small fortune to change the battery. For monitored
    clients I only charge 35 bucks plus tax to change the battery...no service
    call or trip charge. If they want a system checkup while I'm there then I'd
    charge more...but not for just a battery call.

    For local clients?,,, Yah...they gots to pay for service call + battery,
    since we do have to make money somehow.


    | m35603 wrote:
    | > Well, duh, no wonder we couldn't find a battery in the keypad if the
    | > battery is in the main box. LOL! Would be nice if they'd put this in
    | > the manual for us uneducated ones.
    |
    | That's normally info you'd find in the installer's manual... they've
    probably
    | only left behind a user's manual.
    |
    | Why would they want you replacing the battery youself, when they can
    charge you
    | a small fortune for a service call to come out and do a 10-minute job?
     
  7. Probably because the alarm company
    Battery replacement doesn't require any special skill. There's no reason why the homeowner shouldn't do it himself.
    I disagree. Hundreds of online stores carry them. Also, numerous retail outlets even sell them.
    Smoke detectors need cleaning at least annually. Motion detectors are normally left alone unless they cause a problem. As state,
    batteries usually need replacement every 3-5 years. Magnetic contacts protecting doors and windows are normally service-free unless
    there's a lightning hit.

    Smokes are easy to clean. Homeowners can clean one in a few minutes.
    Good advice. In most commun ities you simply notify the trash collection company that you have a battery for disposal. They'll
    pick it up on the assigned day for "haz mat" removal.
    Yep. It's also a good idea to wrap a couple of turns of electrical tape after clipping the terminals.
    Also excellent advice.

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-866-1100
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  8. Not everyone charges a small fortune
    That sets you apart from most alarm companies though. Most do charge a trip fee. People often call my online store to ask if they
    can replace their own alarm battery. The most common reason given for DIYing it is, "My alarm company wants over $100 just to come
    out and change the battery." Considering the most popular batteries wholesale for less than $15, that does seem a bit high.

    BTW, I used batteries as a great way to make customers happy when there were blackouts in our area. After one particularly bad ice
    storm we had numerous of customers with dead batteries. I went down to ADI and picked up a few cases of Yuasa NP712's and made the
    rounds, dropping off replacement batteries and check systems for dozens of customers as soon as power was restored. I charged only
    for the batteries; no service call fee.

    Within weeks after that storm was over we were swamped with new referral calls of customers' neighbors wanting an alarm system.
    After that, any time there was a prolonged outage I did the same thing.
    Well, you're being exceptionally nice. Most alarm companies charge a lot more.

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-866-1100
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  9. Frank Olson

    Frank Olson Guest


    We have an annual "inspection clause" in our contract. If the customer
    decides to exercise it, the battery's replaced free of charge. The
    annual inspection adds $40.00 to the annual monitoring charge.
     
  10. Don

    Don Guest

    even if it still tests good?
     
  11. Frank Olson

    Frank Olson Guest


    Of course not.
     
  12. Crash Gordon

    Crash Gordon Guest

    Excellent idea!


    | Crash Gordon wrote:
    | > Not everyone charges a small fortune to change the battery. For
    monitored
    | > clients I only charge 35 bucks plus tax to change the battery...no
    service
    | > call or trip charge. If they want a system checkup while I'm there then
    I'd
    | > charge more...but not for just a battery call.
    | >
    | > For local clients?,,, Yah...they gots to pay for service call + battery,
    | > since we do have to make money somehow.
    |
    |
    | We have an annual "inspection clause" in our contract. If the customer
    | decides to exercise it, the battery's replaced free of charge. The
    | annual inspection adds $40.00 to the annual monitoring charge.
     
  13. Crash Gordon

    Crash Gordon Guest

    I am different...I do everything to keep monitored clients happy, after all
    they are putting food on me table.

    BUT...local client pay for any/all service and at a higher hourly than
    monitored clients.


    |> Not everyone charges a small fortune
    | > to change the battery. For monitored
    | > clients I only charge 35 bucks plus
    | > tax to change the battery...no service
    | > call or trip charge...
    |
    | That sets you apart from most alarm companies though. Most do charge a
    trip fee. People often call my online store to ask if they
    | can replace their own alarm battery. The most common reason given for
    DIYing it is, "My alarm company wants over $100 just to come
    | out and change the battery." Considering the most popular batteries
    wholesale for less than $15, that does seem a bit high.
    |
    | BTW, I used batteries as a great way to make customers happy when there
    were blackouts in our area. After one particularly bad ice
    | storm we had numerous of customers with dead batteries. I went down to
    ADI and picked up a few cases of Yuasa NP712's and made the
    | rounds, dropping off replacement batteries and check systems for dozens of
    customers as soon as power was restored. I charged only
    | for the batteries; no service call fee.
    |
    | Within weeks after that storm was over we were swamped with new referral
    calls of customers' neighbors wanting an alarm system.
    | After that, any time there was a prolonged outage I did the same thing.
    |
    | > If they want a system checkup while
    | > I'm there then I'd charge more...but
    | > not for just a battery call...
    |
    | Well, you're being exceptionally nice. Most alarm companies charge a lot
    more.
    |
    | --
    |
    | Regards,
    | Robert L Bass
    |
    | =============================>
    | Bass Home Electronics
    | 941-866-1100
    | 4883 Fallcrest Circle
    | Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    | http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    | =============================>
    |
    |
     
  14. Crash Gordon

    Crash Gordon Guest

    A 3 year old battery may test good today, but not next week. I replace them
    at 3 years, based upon my experience over the years that's what I get out of
    a battery.


    |
    message
    | | > Crash Gordon wrote:
    | >> Not everyone charges a small fortune to change the battery. For
    monitored
    | >> clients I only charge 35 bucks plus tax to change the battery...no
    | >> service call or trip charge. If they want a system checkup while I'm
    | >> there then I'd charge more...but not for just a battery call.
    | >>
    | >> For local clients?,,, Yah...they gots to pay for service call +
    battery,
    | >> since we do have to make money somehow.
    | >
    | >
    | > We have an annual "inspection clause" in our contract. If the customer
    | > decides to exercise it, the battery's replaced free of charge. The
    annual
    | > inspection adds $40.00 to the annual monitoring charge.
    |
    | even if it still tests good?
    |
    |
     
  15. Crash Gordon

    Crash Gordon Guest

    |> Probably because the alarm company
    | > usually services the system...
    |
    | Battery replacement doesn't require any special skill. There's no reason
    why the homeowner shouldn't do it himself.

    I didn't say it did..only that the alarmco usually services them on routine
    (or emergency) service calls.


    |
    | > The batteries are not easily available...
    |
    | I disagree. Hundreds of online stores carry them. Also, numerous retail
    outlets even sell them.

    Online is not exactly "easily" or readily available when the alarm panel is
    squealling in trouble at 4am.


    |
    | > Besides alarm systems should be serviced
    | > every year are so by an alarm tech and
    | > one of those service calls would also include
    | > changing the battery (which only last 3-5
    | > years).
    |
    | Smoke detectors need cleaning at least annually. Motion detectors are
    normally left alone unless they cause a problem. As state,
    | batteries usually need replacement every 3-5 years. Magnetic contacts
    protecting doors and windows are normally service-free unless
    | there's a lightning hit.
    |
    | Smokes are easy to clean. Homeowners can clean one in a few minutes.

    I can see my 87 year old dad getting on a ladder to clean a smoke detector
    then freeing out when it goes into trouble.


    |
    | > And DON'T just throw the old battery
    | > in the garbage, it contains lead -
    | > please dispose of it properly.
    |
    | Good advice. In most commun ities you simply notify the trash collection
    company that you have a battery for disposal. They'll
    | pick it up on the assigned day for "haz mat" removal.

    I bring them to my friend who owns a car service center, he just puts them
    in the stack of batteries that Interstate picks up monthly.


    |
    | > DO clip off the terminals of the old battery
    | > to prevent shorting and starting a fire.
    |
    | Yep. It's also a good idea to wrap a couple of turns of electrical tape
    after clipping the terminals.
    |
    | > Oh yeah...write the DATE you changed
    | > the battery on the battery with a Sharpie
    | > and plan on replacing it again in 3-4 years.
    |
    | Also excellent advice.

    Yep...I'm full of it! (Excellent advice that is:))))

    Happy New Year!



    |
    | --
    |
    | Regards,
    | Robert L Bass
    |
    | =============================>
    | Bass Home Electronics
    | 941-866-1100
    | 4883 Fallcrest Circle
    | Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    | http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    | =============================>
    |
    |
     
  16. Petem

    Petem Guest

    Is it me or battery life is shorter then it used to be?
    If my memory serve me right,they used to last like 5 years,some even more...
     
  17. Crash Gordon

    Crash Gordon Guest

    Shorter for sure.

    Either the panel's charging circuits are rougher on the batts or the batts
    are shittier...or combo of both.
    With old Radx 6112's and Yuasa 12-7's I used to get 5 or more years, now
    I'm getting 3 (and I mean almost to the DAY) out of them.



    | Is it me or battery life is shorter then it used to be?
    | If my memory serve me right,they used to last like 5 years,some even
    more...
    |
    |
    | "Crash Gordon" <> a écrit dans le message
    de
    | 45980055$0$3569$...
    | >A 3 year old battery may test good today, but not next week. I replace
    them
    | > at 3 years, based upon my experience over the years that's what I get
    out
    | > of
    | > a battery.
    | >
    | >
    | > | > |
    | > message
    | > | | > | > Crash Gordon wrote:
    | > | >> Not everyone charges a small fortune to change the battery. For
    | > monitored
    | > | >> clients I only charge 35 bucks plus tax to change the battery...no
    | > | >> service call or trip charge. If they want a system checkup while
    I'm
    | > | >> there then I'd charge more...but not for just a battery call.
    | > | >>
    | > | >> For local clients?,,, Yah...they gots to pay for service call +
    | > battery,
    | > | >> since we do have to make money somehow.
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | > We have an annual "inspection clause" in our contract. If the
    | > customer
    | > | > decides to exercise it, the battery's replaced free of charge. The
    | > annual
    | > | > inspection adds $40.00 to the annual monitoring charge.
    | > |
    | > | even if it still tests good?
    | > |
    | > |
    | >
    | >
    |
    |
     
  18. alarman

    alarman Guest

    Which battery (brand) are you using, Rob?
    js
     
  19. Mark Leuck

    Mark Leuck Guest

    Brands other than Yuasa exist?

     
  20. Don

    Don Guest

    does yuasa exist? ;) [bought out by enersys.]
     
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