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krw
- Jan 1, 1970
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Some one edged me to post this for you. It has been decided to
be a perfect pictation on most of the material you post.
Ah, you admit to having no intelligence yourself. That's a start.
Some one edged me to post this for you. It has been decided to
be a perfect pictation on most of the material you post.
Ah, you admit to having no intelligence yourself. That's a start.
I thought that it fit you rather well. Bwuahahahahaha!
westom said:More scary pictures of the human safety threat; including the NC
fire marshal who explains why these ineffective protectors fail:
http://www.hanford.gov/rl/?page=556&parent=554
Only more responsible manufacturers
make these 'whole house' protectors.
General Electric, Cutler-
Hammer, Intermatic, Keison, Square D, Siemens, and Leviton are just a
few.
You, i am sure, realise that you are doing two things here; trying to
"enlighten" a religious nutter, and trying to dispell the myths
propagated by said religious nutter (westom).
JosephKK said:You, I am sure, realise that you are doing two things here; trying to
"enlighten" a religious nutter, and trying to dispell the myths
propagated by said religious nutter (westom). The first is usually
futile, and the second often thankless. Thank you for whatever
progress you make on either.
.
Oh no ! He's back... I thought I'd kill filed him already !
The naive take cheap shots rather than explain technical facts.
If you think bud is
right, then post those manufacturer specs that claim protection.
Poor w. Nobody ever agrees with him.
Today, the cable company came to replace a wire. Well the cable
man pulled a wire and somehow yanked loose their "ground" wire.
The granddaughter on the computer yelled and ran because sparks
and smoke were coming from the power surge strip.
westom said:The plug-in protector promoter
again refuses to post a single
manufacturer spec that claims that protection.
Even his own citations
show plug-in protector earthing a surge 8000 volts destructively
through an adjacent TV.
So bud posts
insults.
bud even accused Norma of lying.
Not one
plug-in manufacturer claims to stop and absorb surges as bud claims.
A protector is only as effective as its earth ground.
Bud says his grossly overpriced protectors will stop and absorb what
three miles of sky could not.
bud is only here to attack anyone who
posts technical facts.
And where is some technical data to back up your claims?
A very important point to keep in mind is that your
surge protector will work by diverting the surges to
ground. The best surge protection in the world can
be useless if grounding is not done properly.
westom said:Read and addres many previous posts that include technical data.
Including Page 42 Figure 8 from bud's citation and the quoted
statements from his NIST citation that say, for example:
Where is earth ground for bud's protectors?
Cited was where surge
energy gets harmlessly dissipated.
bud's solution has no such
earthing, claims that energy will magically disappear
Even bud's citations state why telcos don't waste
money on plug-in protectors
A protector is only as effective as its earth
ground ... No earth ground
means no effective protection.
OP asked about MOV's response time which is so fast that even 2
inch lead impedance affects those measurements.
What part of bringing your own hard data instead of assailing others
did you not understand?
A very important point to keep in mind is that your
surge protector will work by diverting the surges to
ground. The best surge protection in the world can
be useless if grounding is not done properly.
Today, the cable company came to replace a wire. Well the cable
man pulled a wire and somehow yanked loose their "ground" wire.
The granddaughter on the computer yelled and ran because sparks
and smoke were coming from the power surge strip.
Conclusion:
1) Quantitative measurements in the Upside-Down house clearly
show objectionable difference in reference voltages. These occur
even when or perhaps because, surge protective devices are
present at the point of connection of appliances.
You destroy your claims by your very own citations: