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Discussion in 'Electronic Repair' started by [email protected], Jan 29, 2005.

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  1. Guest

  2. Anything will sound better after listening to a "weird tone" for three
    minutes, so in a way the disk works. :-/
     
  3. Ken Weitzel

    Ken Weitzel Guest

  4. Art

    Art Guest

    E-Bay, does not that say it all?? Righto
     
  5. NSM

    NSM Guest

    It's all sent to the speakers and recharges the magnets for better bass.
     
  6. NSM

    NSM Guest

    Don't you love the fact that there are people dumb enough to fall for crap
    like this? I guess not all the idiots are Bush voters in the USA. My
    favourite is the guy who buys felt discs at the dollar store, repackages
    them, and sells them as acoustic damping filters to stick around your living
    room. $1,000.
     
  7. Jerry G.

    Jerry G. Guest

    This is a lot of pig crap!!!

    I would guess that anyone can try to suck anyone in. I first thought
    that this was someone's sense of humor, but I can see that this guy is
    for real!

    Unbelievable...

    Here in Canada, Industry Canada would be breaking down his door!
    Jerry G.
    ======
     
  8. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest

    It's no worse than this http://www.altmann.haan.de/tubeolator/default.htm


    There's a huge variety of audiophool snake oil, I've been tempted myself to
    market some ridiculous product at a ludicrous price just to see how many
    suckers will buy it. A fool and his money are soon parted.
     
  9. Chaos Master

    Chaos Master Guest

    In sci.electronics.repair, NSM wrote:

    And there are audiophools^Waudiophiles that are likely to buy this
    stuff...
    --
    Chaos Master®, posting from Canoas, Brazil - 29.55° S / 51.11° W / GMT-
    2h / 15m

    "He [Babya] is like the Energizer Bunny of hopeless newsgroup
    posting....or should that be Energizer bBunny"
    - "ceed" on alt.comp.freeware, 24/1/2005

    (to some groups: Yes, I use Windows and MS Office. So what?)
     
  10. Jerry G.

    Jerry G. Guest

    The guy who wrote this one, is for the books! He did a spectacular job on
    it. I am sure he convinced a few people here and there.

    Some scammers have a brilliant imagination. I am sure that they themselves
    have been talked in to their own entrapment. Or, they have been convinced by
    someone else that is wiser than themselves.

    Another great one that I have seen are the AC cords that have multiple
    levels of shielding on them, and they sell for several hundreds of dollars.
    The venders claim that these cords will reduce noise and distortion.

    It seems that if you argue about the fact that all the audio and video
    equipment work in DC internally, and they are grounded. Also, in a typical
    home there can be about 50 feet of standard BX type wiring from the outlet
    to the breaker panel, and then some heavy copper wiring from the breaker
    buss to the entry panel.

    From many of these guys you hear the old story, that the test instruments
    for testing audio equipment cannot pick up the errors heard by the ears.
    This is a lot of horse-crap. When the proper tests are done with the proper
    test equipment, and the tech knows what he is doing, the results are very
    accurate. Proper testing is very exact to make a proper evaluation and
    adjustments to the equipment.

    Anyone who spends their money on one of these fancy AC cords is getting
    ripped off.


    Beware about:

    Fancy expensive AC cords.
    Demagnetizers for CD disks and phonograph records.
    Coasters that should be located around the room, to improve the sound.
    Extremely expensive speaker and interconnect wire.
    Laquors to put on top of electronic components to improve the sound.
    A little magnetic bug or dot that is to be stuck on to the side of a CD
    player, or audio amplifier.

    These are just a few that I can remember.

    --

    Jerry G.
    =====


    It's no worse than this http://www.altmann.haan.de/tubeolator/default.htm


    There's a huge variety of audiophool snake oil, I've been tempted myself to
    market some ridiculous product at a ludicrous price just to see how many
    suckers will buy it. A fool and his money are soon parted.
     
  11. NSM

    NSM Guest

    No shit. Maybe I could SELL pig crap. But even Radio Shack sells huge copper
    speaker wires with gold connectors!
     
  12. Ken Weitzel

    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi...

    Hey, only a moron would buy any of those things. Heck,
    you can make 'em yourself :)

    Instead I'm going to use common sense, rational thinking,
    and good money management. Saving up to buy one of those
    perpetual motion machines. Hook it up to a generator, and
    all of my energy needs forever taken care. :)

    Take care.

    Ken
     
  13. NSM

    NSM Guest

    I used to run serial cables for computer terminals with unshielded wire. The
    only time I had a failure was when I ran for several feet alongside an old
    style multi line phone system cable where they had a mechanical switch
    system. That one I replaced with shielded cable. Hell, look at all the
    100Base-T we are all running all the time. Works.
     
  14. Chaos Master

    Chaos Master Guest

    I've seen shielded cables being used for network/hardware connection on
    environments where noise could happen and cause distortion to the
    network.

    However, shielding for AC cords is, as I understand it, useless unless
    you're using the cord in a really noisy place!

    []s
    --
    Chaos Master®, posting from Canoas, Brazil - 29.55° S / 51.11° W / GMT-
    2h / 15m

    "He [Babya] is like the Energizer Bunny of hopeless newsgroup
    posting....or should that be Energizer bBunny"
    - "ceed" on alt.comp.freeware, 24/1/2005

    (to some groups: Yes, I use Windows and MS Office. So what?)
     
  15. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest

    Have you seen the ones with reasonably sized wires with HUGE thick clear
    insulation to make them look big?
     
  16. Guest

    I now remember another "audiophile" trick from the late 80s (or
    possibly earlier). This magnificent piece of hocus pocus consisted of
    sticking small (rubber? felt?) pads onto the paper of your speaker
    cones - supposed to bring about " 100% improvement in sound quality" or
    something. How, I don't know - perhaps adding a little more weight to
    the cone? Sounded highly dubious to me, anyone else here heard of this
    and /or can verify that it was a con??

    regards, Ben
     
  17. If you make the speaker cone heavier you will move the speakers
    resonence frequency down. This will enable the speaker to produce lower
    frequencies. The downside is that the efficiency also goes down. Just
    gluing weights on speaker cones at random will most likely not produce
    better sound.

    23 years ago I used paint on the speaker cone to adapt two 12" speakers
    to a sub woofer enclosure. Paint was applied until the speaker resonance
    frequency was low enough for the enclosure. As a student I found this
    cheap method superior to buying two expensive speakers. I would never
    try anything like it today though.
     
  18. Dan

    Dan Guest

    My favorite of the era was those green markers people were using on the
    outer edges of their cd's to improve sound. And don't even THINK of
    mentioning double blind a-b teting to The Faithful.

    Dan
     
  19. NSM

    NSM Guest

    Of course it was a con. The speaker makers know what they are doing - if
    felt pads helped they would use them. It's as sensible as tail fins on a
    car - or streamlining a steam iron.
     
  20. Jack Zeal

    Jack Zeal Guest

    There's another possibility.


    I'm thinking there isn't a huge difference in construction cost between
    high-end and low-end speakers (do the parts of a $800 speaker cost 10
    times those of an 80 dollar speaker?). A lot of money gets spent in
    design and test.

    Rather than developing a completely new high end and low end model, they
    could take a high-end model, and deliberately cripple it. Perhaps
    sometimes the "magic dots" defeated limitations so added.

    Not likely, however a thought.
     
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