:On 20/07/2010 12:58 PM, Ross Herbert wrote:
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:> ::> :> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:01:58 +1000, Adrian Jansen<
[email protected]>
:> :> wrote:
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:> :>
on McKenzie wrote:
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:> :> :> Makes you want the NBN.
:> :> :>
:> :> :> Residents at Point Cook near Melbourne have stopped queuing large
:> :> :> downloads and started bringing on-demand movies down the pipe in
under
:> :> :> 15 minutes after swapping "abysmal" ADSL1 connections for superfast
:> :> :> broadband.
:> :> :>
:> :> :> Three of the 1,500 residents in the coverage area of Telstra's
:> :> :> fibre-to-the-home (FttH) trial network have spoken to iTnews about
:> :> their
:> :> :> experiences.
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:> :> :> Cheers Don...
:> :> :>
:> :> :>
:> :> :>
:> :> :While I like the idea of fast comms, I do wonder whether its worth it to
:> :> :deliver stuff like movies and other packaged consumer items. How much
:> :> :does all the infrastructure cost, compared to the cost of posting a DVD
:> :> :through snail-mail ?
:> :>
:> :>
:> :> Yes, I agree. It doesn't make any sense to spend over $30B just so
:> :> homeowners
:> :> can spend their leisure hours downloading and watching movies in almost
:> :> real
:> :> time. It is not as if people are not time-poor now when they should be
:> :> spending
:> :> more time interacting with their kids and family instead of stuck in
front
:> :> of a
:> :> computer or networked TV set watching stupid movies. If that is the main
:> :> aim of
:> :> the NBN then it is a sad waste of resources which could be better
:> :> targetted to
:> :> business, medical, education sectors who would benefit from such
bandwidth
:> :> and
:> :> speed. 99% of the population certainly don't need it.
:> :
:> :
:> :Yep, we can pretty much do all that now on ADSL2+. Seems like a waste to me
:> :as well, I keep thinking I must be missing something.
:> :
:>
:>
:> Oh, and it gets even better when you consider that homeowners may not be
allowed
:> to opt out of having their current copper based communication facilities
:> upgraded to fibre when it is being rolled out in the neighborhood. I
encourage
:> you to read the Telstra documentation regarding their Velocity (FTTH)
offering
:> which will form the basis on which the NBN is to be rolled out
:>
http://www.telstra.com.au/smartcommunity/homeowners.html
:>
:> Imagine the situation where an elderly non-computer savvy person who is not
:> interested in having the NBN connected. They may only require a fixed line
:> service and no internet. So if the copper network and dedicated Telstra PSTN
:> exchanges are going to be made redundant with the advent of FTTH then they
will
:> be up for added expense and ongoing maintenance for their UPS (read the
battery
:> pdf). It will be the responsibility of the homeowner to monitor the condition
of
:> the UPS back-up battery supplying the ONT during mains power outages. AFAIK,
:> small UPS of the type installed for the ONT don't have a battery test and
:> monitor facility so how does a non tech-savvy pensioner know when to change
the
:> battery to ensure a reliable telephone service during power outages? They
will
:> probably only find out at some distant time in the future when the mains
power
:> is off for several hours and they try to use the phone and get nothing
because
:> the battery is dead. They will be responsible for ensuring the battery in the
:> UPS is changed regularly by a licensed contactor at great expense. A
Panasonic
:> 12V, 7Ah battery will set them back around $40 plus the contractor fee
(approx
:> $60 - $70 min) to change it over for them. This will be a far cry from the
:> present community service access provisions of the copper based PSTN network
we
:> know today.
:>
:> That's progress???
:A most unlikely model ou are proposing , the logical conclusion is dsl
:/100mbs from neighbourhood fibre connection distributors which makes the
:most economic sense considering they can be dropped into existing
:exchanges for a fraction of the fibre to the house proposal , imagine a
:western town with a few hundred houses and fibre to the nearest large
:town 30k off.Running fibre to the local exchange is drawn via existing
:infrastructure and a router is dropped into the frame for bugger all
:relative cost , if the copper wont handle the distribution then a cheap
:wireless link which is stable and piss easy to install.
I don't know where you live mate but that is not the scenario in Australia with
the proposed NBN. This will be FTTH only in capital cities and wireless for
rural areas off the beaten track. The reason we won't get a NBN based on fibre
with copper for the final 300 metres (so-called FTTN) is because Telstra owns
and maintains the existing copper infrastructure and all the other ISP's have to
rely upon Telstra for providing and maintaining their networks while at the same
time competing with them. With the advent of the NBN, Telstra - who owned and
maintained the copper - will have to sell their underground infrastructure to
NBNCo so they can use it to pull their fibre through. This means that Telstra
will give up their copper network completely and no longer support it. Unless
you have fibre to the home you won't get anything - unless you go for wireless.
