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Steven Dinius
- Jan 1, 1970
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Jim Menning said:Much more appropriate!
;o)
jim menning
If you say so.
Jim Menning said:Much more appropriate!
;o)
jim menning
Jeffrey D Angus said:Funny you should mention that, That's where a LOT of our surplus
(i.e. garbage) computers end up. They've got a growing problem in
China now about the recycling centers causing massive ecological
damage to the towns that they recycle in. From burning plastic
insulation off to salvage copper, and the chemical sludge from
stripping gold and silver plating.
Jeff
In rec.antiques.radio+phono Scott W. Harvey said:About four to six times a year, I go to our local dump to deposit
refuse that is the result of seasonal cleaning. Every time I am there,
I see an enormous dumpster that is just FILLED FILLED FILLED to over
the top with late-model electronic junk of every description. It makes
me sick.......These items are totally useless albatrosses. No one can
repair them, cannabilization for useful parts is almost impossible,
and disposal in an environmentally acceptable manner is quite
expensive.
IMHO, These items should be put on a giant barge and sent back to the
country of origin with the caveat that a trade embargo will be imposed
against any country that refuses to take them back. Maybe when China,
Mexico, and other cheap-labor countries experience first hand what a
colossal pain it is to deal with the ass end of their product's
mercilessly short life cycles, maybe they won't dump quite so much of
this junk on our shores.
In rec.antiques.radio+phono truegridtz said:I doubt that the Chinese are really worried about what we want. Communists
are not known for having much of a conscience.
I think lack of conscience is not a communist problem per se. This
having been said, I know that at least some European communist
countries, tried to make their design and manufacturing as solid as
possible. Because in their philosophy there was no such thing as
unemployment, and there often was a shortage of supplies, there was no
reason not to put a good amount of engineering into their stuff. I can
confirm 2 East-German black and white TV sets running since 1988 without
needing repairs (and many more of those sets in continuous use in the
Prague metro, if they were not drowned 2 years ago). Some radio
collectors can confirm as well that East German and Czech radio's seem
rather well built (alltough I have not seen too many of those, but what
I have seen was nice).
Scott said:expensive.
IMHO, These items should be put on a giant barge and sent back to the
country of origin with the caveat that a trade embargo will be imposed
against any country that refuses to take them back. Maybe when China,
Mexico, and other cheap-labor countries experience first hand what a
colossal pain it is to deal with the ass end of their product's
mercilessly short life cycles, maybe they won't dump quite so much of
this junk on our shores.
-Scott
Charlie's Airwaves is over pirced on almost every thing. Nice place to go
and look & repair prices are not that bad. I remeber when the EPO Houston
use to sell alot more surplus stuff that was like 3 years ago. Now the only
surpul stuff they have is some computer stuff batteries power supplys and
generators. I like the epo back in the day not it is just good to go & look
you might find something you need. I am also looking for a good surplus
electronic store within about 50 or so miles of Houston anybody know of any
good ones.
============attention to repair and disposal on the design and manufacturing
side, and a recycling deposit.
=========================people and destroying the environment in their countries, as well:
============
In the Netherlands and probably other EU countries all electrical goods are
subjected to a 'disposal fee' related to the purchase price and
size/hardware content ,which is to be paid upon purchase.
For a hair dryer the fee is low , for a TV set or laundry machine the fee is
much higher. Old /defective goods can be returned to the shop the goods were
purchased ,or to the relevant municipal waste depot.
Good system where money is paid up front to pay for eventual disposal/
recycling.
: Scott W. Harvey wrote:
:
: > expensive.
: >
: > IMHO, These items should be put on a giant barge and sent back
to the
: > country of origin with the caveat that a trade embargo will be
imposed
: > against any country that refuses to take them back. Maybe when
China,
: > Mexico, and other cheap-labor countries experience first hand
what a
: > colossal pain it is to deal with the ass end of their
product's
: > mercilessly short life cycles, maybe they won't dump quite so
much of
: > this junk on our shores.
: >
: > -Scott
:
: These countries are ALREADY taking the stuff back, and it is
killing
: people and destroying the environment in their countries, as
well:
:
: http://greennature.com/article978.html
: http://english.epochtimes.com/news/3-9-11/5040.html
: http://www.peopleandplanet.net/doc.php?id=1445
:
: Bob Weiss N2IXK
Name one person who has died that can be traced directly to
salvaging efforts.
Real sensible question.
Just like the one about two white guys and a black guy
arriving at Heaven. St. Peter asks the first guy what famous ship was
sunk by an iceberg. Guy answers, "Titanic" and St. Peter waves him in.
St. Peter asks the second white guy how many died. Guy says, "1503"
and St Peter waves him in. Then he turns to the black guy and says,
"Name them."
Clarence said:Did he? You didn't finish the story. So What happened?
There is a big difference between "name one" and Naming 1503, and I don't get
the connection.
How about this joke, maybe it will make things clearer-
Real sensible question.
Clarence said:So there was no connection.
The question was:
Changing to trying to tell very old and lame jokes does not answer the
question.
Provide one verifiable name of a person that died as a direct result of Salvage
efforts.