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Homebuilt bipolar PROM programmer for 82S23 PROMs?

Discussion in 'Electronic Equipment' started by Joachim Wunder, Mar 29, 2007.

  1. Hi there,

    I am currently in the unlucky situation of having to duplicate two
    different 74ALS188 (32 x 8) bipolar PROMs to a whole bunch of a dozen
    new 82S23 bipolar PROMs. Unfortunately, I don´t own any programmer
    which is capable of handling such bipolar PROMs. Well, is there any
    affordable homebuilt PROM programmer available on the net which can
    handle 82S23 PROMs? Any hints to schematics and PCB layouts are highly
    appreciated.

    TIA
    Joachim.
     
  2. DaveM

    DaveM Guest

    Andromeda Research (www.arlabs.com) has a nice cheap programmer (Eprom+) that
    can handle both of your PROMs. It's affordable at $289.00 USD. Bipolar PROMs
    require an adapter in addition to the programmer.
    If you buy their programmer, the manual includes full documentation for the
    programmer and the adapters, including schematic and parts values. If you don't
    want to spend the money for the adapter, you can build it yourself.

    I have one of those programmers, but I don't have the bipolar PROM adapter. I
    had one of their early models, which didn't support a lot of the newer EEPROMs
    and ucontrollers. They have an upgrade policy that gives you a $50 discount
    toward the cost on the newer EPROM+ programmer. When I called them to buy the
    upgraded programmer, they told me that they had more of the old carcasses than
    they could handle, so they allowed me to keep the old model in addition to
    giving me the $50 discount. Not a bad deal.

    --
    Dave M
    MasonDG44 at comcast dot net (Just substitute the appropriate characters in the
    address)

    Life is like a roll of toilet paper; the closer to the end, the faster it goes.
     
  3. Thanks for your advice, Dave. Well, I´d have to program not more than
    10 pieces of N82S23N proms (for private use), so I´m not sure whether
    an investment in a commercial PROM programmer will be worth the money.
    But, anyway, I´ll take a deeper look into Andromeda Research´s
    programmer. Even that I´m located in Germany.

    Well, if someone here has ever built his or her own homebuilt PROM
    programmer, please let me know.

    Thanks,
    Joachim
     
  4. KC

    KC Guest

    Hallo Joachim,

    Is it the way how to program the 82S23 you are looking for or are you
    looking for a ready to build programmer ?

    If it's a solution I can program the proms for you but you have to pay
    for the return post.
    I am located in Holland.

    You can mail me or reply here in German if you want.
     
  5. Hello KC,
    I am actually looking for schematics or better a PCB layout to just
    built my own homebuilt PROM burner. I know that in Elector 80 magazine
    (summer of 1980 I have heard) such a PCB layout incl. schematics and
    description was published. Unfortunately, I don´t own that Elector
    magazine from these good old days... Does anyone here does?
    Thanks for your kind offer. Well, I think that I maybe could arrange a
    solution with a friendly guy in my area. But that´s not yet absolutely
    organized or fixed at all.
    Thanks. Danke. For the sake of this NG´s readers I will continue in
    English language. :)

    Kind regards,
    Joachim
     

  6. I remember that programmer. Could program only one PROM type and one bit at
    a time. That's an average of 128 bits - and make no mistake. May still have
    the article somewhere, but only in Dutch. If you are interested, let me
    know.

    petrus bitbyter
     
  7. Hi Petrus,

    yes, if you have that Elector article from August 1980, pp. 17ff with
    a useable PCB layout for manufacturing a homebuilt PCB that would be
    great, even if it is in Dutch only. Could you scan it and send it to
    me? My address in current reply-to field is not valid anymore, but if
    you could send me to WAPEricsson1<ät>compuserve<punkt>de in pieces
    smaller than 5 MByte chunks I would be VERY thankful !

    Thanks a mil and kind regards,
    Joachim
     
  8. DaveM

    DaveM Guest

    Take a look at http://black-box-systems.com/Programmer.htm and see if what they
    offer fits your needs. I found the site while Googling tonite and remembered
    your post.
    Looks like the site has fallen into a bit of disrepair, but most of the links
    are still good. The images have been moved or deleted. The email might work...
    doesn't cost anything to contact the company and see if their programmer will do
    your job. Looks like they can supply PC board, uC, parts, etc in kit form or
    ala carte. Prices aren't bad.

    Cheers!!!
    --
    Dave M
    MasonDG44 at comcast dot net (Just substitute the appropriate characters in the
    address)

    Life is like a roll of toilet paper; the closer to the end, the faster it goes.
     
  9. Keyser Soze

    Keyser Soze Guest

    I have a PDF file of what you need from an old Signetics data book.

    Post an email that can accept a 1.7 mega byte PDF file attachment.
     
  10. Hi there,

    if you could send it to WAPEricsson1<ät>compuserve<punkt>de it´d
    really be fine.

    Thanks a mil in advance,
    Joachim
     
  11. Would that happen to be the Generic I programming specification?
    I've been after a copy of that for ages - I've got a HTMLised version, but
    it's missing Table 1, which contains the timing and voltage parameters for all
    the different Signetics PROMs :-/
    Think you could send a copy to ?

    Thanks.
     
  12. Guest

    hi Joachim,

    the correct name of the magazine is elektor.
    They are still very much alive and active, seee www.elektor-electronics.co.uk
    Their sales dept suppy photocopies of back articles. Email adress
    should be on the site somwehere.

    Good luck

    Richard (UK)
     
  13. Southerner

    Southerner

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    Apr 4, 2007
    Could I also get a copy of that PDF sent to my CWU.EDU account APruitt? I am looking for a reader/programmer for 74S387's. What is different about them? Just VPP?
     
  14. Hi Richard,

    thank you very much. I already contacted them yesterday (in Germany)
    and they think they can supply me a copy of the German release of the
    article for a small fee of €3,40.

    Kind regards
    Joachim
     
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