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  1. dallasalarm

    dallasalarm Guest

    Where can I find the master code for my home alarm system (DCS-1500)

    I recently purchased a rental property that has a home securit
    system. I want to activate the system but I don’t know the pass code
    Isn't there a master programming code that I can use to reset th
    whole thing
     
  2. Nicko

    Nicko Guest


    Wow, you really did your research before you bought this property,
    didn't you?
     
  3. JoeRaisin

    JoeRaisin Guest

    Unless someone from the company that installed the system is on this
    forum, there is no way anyone here can know that info. Any decent
    installer will have changed the defaults.

    Besides, without knowing what you are doing, jumping into programming
    without a guide could get you a system that is worse than useless.

    See if there are any stickers on the panel, possibly on any of the doors
    or windows or maybe a yard sign with the name and number of the
    servicing company. If you can get in touch with the previous owners
    maybe they can tell you who to call.

    If not, check out the local operators (try to avoid the nationals) with
    the BBB and and give one of those guys a call.

    It won't be free and I'm sure they will try to get you on board with
    monitoring. But you should actually check out how much the monitoring
    is against how much it may save you on homeowners insurance - you may
    find it isn't that expensive in the long run.

    A monitored fire system, along with low temperature sensing (in certain
    areas - check local listings) and strategically placed water detector
    (water damage is a real mother and insurance companies will usually do
    whatever they can to avoid paying for it) or two, in a house that will
    be used by tenets who may not care about the property as much as you do,
    could be just what you need for piece of mind and perhaps a cut on the
    insurance (I get 15% from my company).
     
  4. Frank Olson

    Frank Olson Guest


    There is a method of defaulting the board, but you'll have to reprogram
    it from scratch and you haven't indicated as to whether you have the
    programming manual or not. First you have to find out if the board has
    been "locked". Disconnect the battery and AC transformer (in that
    order). Wait for 30 seconds and reconnect the AC. If you hear a series
    of "clicks" from the onboard relay, the board is locked and the only way
    to access programming is by knowing the installer code. If the relay
    doesn't click multiple times, you can default the board. The procedure
    is in the installation manual which you will need to reprogram the
    system anyway.

    The 1500 is ancient technology. You should consider upgrading to a
    newer system. Stick with DSC if you're considering the DIY route. It's
    one of the easiest panels to program. Find a friendly local alarm
    company that's willing to sell you a DSC 1832. You'll need new keypads
    as well. You can browse DSC's website at http://www.dsc.com. You can
    also purchase the system from any of a number of online stores and
    dealers. http://www.yoursecuritysource.com/buyingonline.htm has some
    valuable tips and a couple of links to online dealers.

    Good luck!!!
     
  5. Joe's advice is correct. However, most local (and virtually all national)
    alarm companies will decline to work on the system unless you sign a
    multi-year monitoring contract. The terms and prices vary wildly from one
    provider to the next fir essentially similar services so shop around a bit.

    Regarding breaks in homeowner's insurance, the discount is usually nn% of the
    burglary or fire coverage -- not the whole package. For example, our
    homeowner's policy costs around $8,000 a year. The 10% discount for an alarm
    system isn't 10% of $8,000. It's 10% of $800, or $80. Monitoring by any of
    the local outfits around Sarasota would run about $300 a year. A colleague,
    www.911Alarm.com, charges $12 a month. Net cost is $64 per year.

    One thing you need to be especially careful about if you have an alarm company
    service and/or monitor the system for you is that pesky lockout code (the same
    one you're having trouble with at present). Most alarm companies use them to
    make it more difficult / costly for customers to switch service providers.
    Some will give you the code or default it for you for a price once you pay for
    nn years of monitoring. Others won't give you the code, even to equipment
    which you own, no matter what you do.

    If you like to tinker you might want to consider buying a control panel and
    doing the job yourself. It's not particularly difficult though you'll need a
    modicum of tool skills and a bit of patience to get the hang of it. If that's
    not your idea of a fun way to spend a Saturday, take Joe's advice and check
    out a few local alarm dealers. Ask neighbors who they use and how they like
    the service. Either way, best of luck.

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    ==============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
    Customer Service 941-870-2310
    Fax 941-870-3252
    ==============================>
     
  6. Hmm. I thought you didn't like posts that aren't helpful, useful and
    on-topic.

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    ==============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
    Customer Service 941-870-2310
    Fax 941-870-3252
    ==============================>
     
  7. Frank Olson

    Frank Olson Guest

    Robert L Bass wrote:

    On the contrary... most *local* dealers aren't going to turn down a
    service call as long as the customer is willing to "pony up". Count on
    a two hour minimum charge and make sure you understand exactly what that
    is going to be (inclusive of any "fuel surcharges") *before* you order
    service.
    I would imagine the cost of your insurance is so high because of the
    recent losses the various insurers have had to cover because of the
    hurricanes that frequent your area. Wow... That really sucks (pardon
    the pun).

    Actually, the reason alarm companies use a unique installer code on a
    monitored alarm panel is to prevent an unathorized (untrained)
    individual from compromising the system. It has to do with the
    liability aspects involved, and has no "nefarious" or underhanded
    reason. In fact, most alarm companies will release the panel if you
    decide you no longer wish it to be monitored and want to use it as a
    "local" system (as long as you *own* the equipment and don't owe them
    any money).

    Again... that depends on whether or not you "own" the equipment (or owe
    them money). Brinks (for instance) doesn't sell alarm panels (so they
    say) so any panel with their sticker on it actually *belongs* to them.
    They also won't program it as a "local system", but will insist on
    recovering the equipment if you don't decide to employ their monitoring
    service.

    Either way, it's better to deal with a local alarm dealer (if you can
    find a "friendly" one) that will sell you just the equipment. Don't
    expect them to honour the warranty if you decide to power up the system
    after you do all the connections. I'd suggest doing the swap, and
    terminating all the devices then pay the dealer the $100.00 to come out
    and power it up for you. He'll ensure you've done everything correctly
    and will then be in a position to replace anything you've purchased from
    him (under warranty). Warranty claims are extremely difficult to
    process if you've bought the equipment "online". In fact, most
    wholesalers and manufacturers won't deal with end users directly (but
    only through a recognized dealer).

    My best advice is to buy an upgraded panel (as I suggested in my
    previous response) and don't bother "fiddling" with that PC-1500. Jim
    Rojas (at www.tech-man.com) will probably take it off your hands. :)
     
  8. Sallie

    Sallie Guest

    And it just so happens this guy hawks alarm equipment.

    In Texas it's 10% and written into legislation, so if you;re paying
    $2000.00 a year for homeowners, you get a real 10% which is $200.

    If you want to **** things up, do it yourself but realize that you'll
    eventually pay.

    DSC1500? No parts, no support because it's a bit old, although it's
    probably a 1550. Still, no parts, no support.
     
  9. Doug

    Doug Guest

    The default master code will be in the installation manual. If the default
    master code has been changed then you will need to default the entire panel
    and reprogram the system from scratch. If the lock out feature hasn't been
    enabled then defaulting the panel is a straightforward procedure. If the
    panel really is a DSC 1500 and not a DSC 1550 then I'm not sure if it even
    had an installers lockout feature.

    Doug
     
  10. Have you never posted about recumbent bicycles?

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    ==============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
    Customer Service 941-870-2310
    Fax 941-870-3252
    ==============================>
     
  11. Does it also just so happen you hawk installed systems? Monitoring? I'm just
    curious.
    I'd love to pay only $2,000 per year for homeowner's insurance.
    If you *really* want to &*^% things up, vote Republican.
    So the gentleman has a 1550. It can be upgraded if need be. However, if he
    can find a way to get the code he can easily get the manual from Jim Rojas.
    If not, he has a choice -- go with a professional or DIY. The deciding
    factors should be his ability or willingness to do it (the work is pretty
    simple) vs. the simpler solution which is to let someone else do it for him.
    No big deal either way.

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    ==============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
    Customer Service 941-870-2310
    Fax 941-870-3252
    ==============================>
     
  12. The first thing the gentleman needs is the correct manual. He can get that
    from Jim Rojas or I can send him one if he wants. Jim stores tens of
    thousands of manuals on tech-man.com. I keep a few hundred of the more
    frequently requested ones around in case a client needs one. I don't charge
    for manuals. Although Jim's site is a pay site, I think he'll send a free
    copy to a homeowner if the gentleman requests one.

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    ==============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
    Customer Service 941-870-2310
    Fax 941-870-3252
    ==============================>
     
  13. Sallie

    Sallie Guest

    I hawk stuff, but other than changing a battery, I don't suggest
    people DIY. Most are cheap bastards that piss and moan when they have
    to eventually pay the going rate for someone to come in and clean up
    their mess.

    Besides, if the guy wound up hitting this newsgroup on recommendation,
    he doesn't have a DIY clue.

    Here's a hint - - why not go to the manufacturer's web site?

    Plenty of places that you're not overcharged for insurance.

    Unless you're pretty well to do to start off, or you like seeing old
    motion picture actors, voting republican won't help.

    Rojas? I heard he took a managers job with Brinks in Florida!
    Unfortunately the job won't last. He'll be out when they find out he
    knows what he's doing and the pay that he won't get equals $25,000.
     
  14. Sallie

    Sallie Guest

    It does!

     
  15. I understand. If they DIY they don't have to pay you to do it for them. No
    problem. I sell direct to DIYers so of course I do suggest that *some* people
    DIY. Every so often I speak with someone who seems unable to handle the work.
    When that happens I suggest they hire a pro. That's not to common, mind you.
    Installing and servicing burglar alarms is fairly simple stuff.
    We must be dealing with two different segments of the population. I find that
    most people interested in DIY do so because they enjoy the challenge. Some
    are only looking to save money but that's not a bad thing unless they happen
    to be saving by not paying you, right? :^)
    The newsgroup is called ALT.SECURITY.ALARMS. To someone looking for
    information on security alarms this would seem a logical place to start.
    However, I prefer they search [blatant plug] --> www.BassHome.com. <--
    [blatant plug]
    You think the manufacturer will help the gentleman? IME, most alarm cturers
    refuse to assist end users. They prefer the user go either to an alarm dealer
    or shop online, as long as the customer buys something without bothering them.
    It may have something to do with the value of the home.
    Heh, heh, heh. We certainly agree there.
    Manager? I never met a Brinks manager. Do they actually supervise stuff?

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    ==============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
    Customer Service 941-870-2310
    Fax 941-870-3252
    ==============================>
     
  16. Crash Gordon

    Crash Gordon Guest

    So Brinks is letting Jim wash the dishes so to speak?



    --
    **Crash Gordon**
     
  17. Doug

    Doug Guest

    Since the Tyco suits have apparently warned Jim not to offer any DSC, ADT or
    any other Tyco owned brand manuals on his website, its probably not a good
    idea for him to send anyone a copy.

    Doug
     
  18. Crash Gordon

    Crash Gordon Guest

    Tyco suits?




    --
    **Crash Gordon**







     
  19. Doug

    Doug Guest

  20. Doug

    Doug Guest

    I actually meant it as a slang term as in

    Slang: a person wearing a suit; specif., a business executive or a
    bureaucrat: usually a term of mild derision

    not as a lawsuit, but given Jim's problems with Brinks and their (law)suits,
    reading my post again I can see it was probably a poor choice of words.

    Doug
     
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