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Discussion in 'Electronic Basics' started by [email protected], Dec 29, 2005.

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  1. Guest

    After asking several dumb questions on this newsgroup, I realized I was
    going to need some extra help if I was ever going to learn this stuff.
    So I searched for an electronics course in my community. I couldn't
    find one. I found a million yoga classes, but no basic electronics
    courses. My only options seem to be an electricians' ticket or an
    engineering degree, and I'm not ready for either of those. I live in a
    city with ~75 000 people.

    Do you think my problems are due to the community's size, or is this a
    problem in most areas?
     
  2. It is becoming more difficult to find community college courses in
    electronics in most areas. These courses were typically offered for
    "technicians" and this area of employment is shrinking.

    You might get some good books and have a go at it on your own. This works
    for some folks. Good luck.
     
  3. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    How many ppl even have 'hobbies' any more ?

    Graham
     
  4. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    In terminal decline would be more accurate.

    Graham
     
  5. Surely someone has design and repair electronic devices. People must get
    some training somewhere. Industry, in a general sense, cannot function
    without technicians. Engineers may design things but technicians are
    necessary to build them and fix them when they go wrong. A society with too
    many graduates and not enough technicians supporting them does not function
    very well. Too many chiefs and not enough indians!

    R
     
  6. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    Do you have public libraries there? Go to Dewey 621.384.

    Have Fun!
    Rich
     
  7. Brian

    Brian Guest

    You might try an electronics correspondence course.

    Brian
     
  8. kell

    kell Guest

    American Radio Relay League (ARRL) is the national "ham" or amateur
    radio organization, and has the kind of materials you're looking for.
    They have instructional materials in the form of paperback books for
    learning all the electronics necessary to pass the exams for the
    various levels of ham licenses.
    ARRL also publishes the Amateur Radio Handbook. This is a fat
    hardcover with tons of stuff in it. Many professional engineers keep
    this book on their shelf as a reference.
    ARRL exists largely to guide and encourage people like you who want to
    get into electronics. Of course it's a "hobby," but if you get into it
    deep enough it's engineering.
     
  9. Electronics tinkering has, unfortunately, shrunk as a hobby. There
    are a number of factors to blame, not the least of which is the instant-
    gratification mindset brought on by the PC, and the seemingly constant
    offshoring of electronic design and manufacturing.

    HOWEVER -- I would suggest that you visit this link:

    http://www.arrl.org/hamradio.html

    There are still a goodly number of people in amateur radio who are
    very active in terms of tinkering and experimentation. I've been active
    in the field since 1977, and I can tell you from personal experience
    that it makes a great hobby.

    Happy tweaking.


    --
    Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
    (Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
    kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
    "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
    with surreal ports?"
     
  10. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    Even the design is going abroad.

    Repair isn't required (or even economic ) with today's equipment prices.
    What industry ? It's gone to Asia.
    Not for consumer appliances any more. They get thrown out when they're bust
    mainly.
    We won't need the graduates either soon.

    I know a number of 'kids' who have graduated in recent times Not *one* has ended
    up in a job that they trained for.

    Graham
     
  11. Unfortunately I live in Phoenix, where the people in charge of our
    libraries hate any books that aren't about pop psychology or idiot
    sociology.
     
  12. Rodney

    Rodney Guest

    You will find a very good electronics course free here:
    http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/electricCircuits/index.htm
     
  13. Bill Gray

    Bill Gray Guest

    American industry will just outsource it to China or India. There're
    plenty of technicians there.

    Bill,
    Phoenix
     
  14. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    Yup. The 'suits' don't give a shit about ppl who spent their lives honing their
    skills when they can get a better bonus by improving tomorrow's bottom line.

    Until there's fundamental culture change in how western businesses are run, don't
    expect any job to be even remotely secure.

    I wouldn't advise *anyone* to get into engineering in the west these days.

    Graham
     
  15. PeteS

    PeteS Guest

    And ignoring next year's (after all, they probably won't be there then)
    Gotta agree.
    On another note, though, technicians need to be close to the actual
    design. For the design work that does occur in the west, we need techs
    near it. I will admit I have had a very hard time (both here in the UK
    and in the states when I was there) getting good techs.

    Cheers

    PeteS
     
  16. BobG

    BobG Guest

    Just buy a copy of 'The Art of Electronics'. Also, you can dl all the
    Navy Electronics School books.
     
  17. Byron A Jeff

    Byron A Jeff Guest

    Electical Engineers.
    It's more a diagnose and replace activity now. It doesn't require a lot
    of training to do that.
    As I said it's become a replacement activity.

    BAJ
     
  18. In that case it will go the way that Britain is headed.


    "When does the bubble burst? Britain's industry and agriculture are
    diminishing by the day, service industries are being exported to India and
    Kenya. What will Britain export to pay for those things that were produced
    in Britain? The jobs described in this article contribute nothing in goods
    and services, they do however take people out of productive jobs and absorb
    money that can only be paid for through the production of real goods and
    services. Just how long can this Ponzi scheme carry on? Then of course
    there is the immigration Ponzi scheme adding to Britain's long term
    problems."

    R
     
  19. Somebody has to do the design and manufacture. If it is all done in China,
    or wherever, what will be exported to pay for the manufactured goods and/or
    services? Countries cannot survive in the long term by simply taking in
    their own washing. The average standard of living must depend solely on the
    total value of goods and services produced.

    R
     
  20. Add 'Practical Electronics Handbook' by Ian Sinclair, 'The Forrest Mims
    Engineer's Notebook and 'CMOS Cookbook' by Don Lancaster.

    R
     
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