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Discussion in 'Electronic Basics' started by Darren Harris, Sep 11, 2003.

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  1. I have an old 19" Zenith (model SC1327W) I purchased about 18 years
    ago, and have decided that it is time to get a new set. I've read the
    pros and cons of various features and formats and wanted to get real
    world opinions on several things. The kind of things that only
    users(not the manufacturers) will truthfully tell you.

    1) Is there really a big difference in picture quality between a flat
    and a "normal" screen TV? Can the average person live without it? In
    fact will the average person really notice it?

    2) And is a 16:9 aspect ratio really a big deal?

    3) Is it a good idea to get a TV with a HD monitor, with the intent of
    getting a HDTV receiver/decoder in the future? Or should I wait and
    get an all-in-one set-up?

    4) Is there any clear information on the picture degradation of a
    HDTV? In two years will it still have a better picture than a new
    "regular" TV?

    5) Lastly, is "Picture-In-Picture" worth it, or is does two internal
    tv tuners
    constitute more possible problems in reliability?

    As of now, I am looking to get a reliable TV with a Flat-screen that
    accomodate a 16 X 9 ratio.

    I originally tried posting this to "" and
    "", but the posters from abroad appear to have a
    problem with with an american posting on those groups, and basically
    told me that TVs over there use different technology, so they would be
    unable to answer my questions.

    Anyway any adivce(or recommendations) would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks a lot.

    Darren Harris
    Staten Island, New York.
  2. Steve

    Steve Guest (Darren Harris) wrote in message
    My two cents;
    Picture quality is an ambiguous term used in this situation by
    unscrupulous sales people to woo the unsuspecting. I would suggest
    that there's no difference in quality between the two, I'm not exactly
    sure what the appeal of a flat screen is. Decide for yourself, don't
    listen to anyone!

    I'm used to having the edges of my screen a little bit bowed. So when
    they square it up and present you with a near perfect rectangular
    picture, it takes some adjustment period before it looks "normal."

    It's not better or worse, it's just different.

    The electron beam needs to be "bent" more critically in a flat panel,
    requiring a more complex yoke and deflection arrangement. The tubes
    are expensive and heavy (a lot of glass).

    The average schmo probably wouldn't notice, nor would they care. But,
    some people like to have the latest and greatest, and this is what the
    manufacturers say is the best! It's personal opinion if you ask me.

    the flat screens I've watched seem to be lacking in "depth" and
    Again, depends who you talk to. I couldn't give a rats ass about it.
    Most shows I've seen in wide screen just have more of the boring
    background to the sides of the presenter! WOW! I'm not about to get
    a wide screen TV just so I can see the edges of the set pieces! Maybe
    once documentaries are being produced in wide screen it might make a
    difference. Considering most of our program content comes from the US
    we are at your mercy when it comes to making a decision on formats.

    For DVDs it would be good, because they more or less force you into
    viewing DVDs in wide screen. It's a horse and cart argument. But,
    like so many things before it, it's what the industry wants, so the
    consumer is going to get it, like it or not. However, as far as I'm
    aware, DVDs are NOT yet available in HD format.

    I'm prepared to be proved wrong on that count.
    That's up to you. Could cost you more to buy separately, but HD sets
    are still ridiculously expensive... it's hard to predict how fast HD
    will catch on. Currently, there's no free to air programming in HD
    format that would interest me.

    I would have thought that a HD set would come with a decoder as
    standard. Personally, I'm sticking it out with crappy old TVs that I
    get for free and fix up. When the new format is set in concrete, I'll
    consider buying a new TV.
    I can't see why not. The technology of CRT manufacture has come a
    LONG way since NTSC and PAL were invented. Computer monitors seems to
    last a decent amount of time, why not HDTVs? Trouble is, if you
    thought replacing a tube in a normal TV was expensive, wait till your
    HD set needs a new CRT! Get ready to rob the bank! If this scenario
    worries you, don't get a HD flat screen! The alignment procedure for
    one of those puppies would be unimaginably complex.
    I would think it's worth it. I'd be more worried about the switch
    mode power supplies than the RF stages.
    Ridiculous. Yes, you guys use NTSC and we use PAL, but that has NO
    relevance whatsoever to the questions you're asking. The "technology"
    is the same, it's the broadcasting standard that is different.

    Perhaps they are doing multicasting and not HD in the UK? Maybe they
    don't know what HD is? Are flat screens not actually flat in the UK?

    Here is Australia we are getting HDTV forced upon us. I think most of
    us would prefer normal definition and multicasting, but one of our
    media moguls has successfully lobbied to government into submission.

    Currently, not many people have HDTVs, not many programs are produced
    in HD. I think standard def, wide screen, with multicasting is the
    way to go, but I'm stuck with what the government wants.
    Unfortunately I can't afford to buy ANY TV let alone a fancy one.

    Different stokes for different folks. Don't listen to sales people,
    they're brainwashed into selling you the most expensive set in the
    store. If you can afford it, buy a set that matches the proposed
    format exactly, that way you can't go wrong (provided the government
    doesn't change its mind!) If you need a TV right away, but a standard
    TV as cheap as you can, you'll only need it to last up until the new
    format is mainstream.

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