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  1. Searcher7

    Searcher7 Guest

    Ewww! There goes the soldering thing again. :)

    There is no existing circuit board involved here. I just need a
    support for the terminal blocks, and had intended to use stripboard
    providing the hole spacing would allow the pins through. Or perhaps I
    can find the stripboard material without holes and make them myself.

    Thanks.

    Darren Harris
    Staten Island, New York.
     

  2. Arrogant? You want to do a hell of a lot of extra work to keep from
    learning to solder.


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    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
  3. kell

    kell Guest

    On Feb 11, 7:40 pm, "Searcher7
    I'm assuming that the pins on your connectors have the standard
    spacing of 1/10 inch or multiple thereof.
    The prefab perforated board you buy will have hole spacing of 1/10
    inch. Get the kind of perfboard that has a copper pad around each
    hole; Radio Shack may have it, or order from a hobby house like
    allelectronics.com or use one of the big suppliers like digikey or
    mouser.
    Along with the perfboard, buy yourself a soldering iron and some rosin-
    core electronics solder. For your job, the solder diameter isn't
    critical. You may be able to go to Radio Shack and buy a little
    plastic tube with coil of solder in it instead of a whole half-pound
    roll.
    I'm only speaking from having glanced at the photo of the terminal
    strip you posted, but those pins look like they're meant for inserting
    into printed circuit board holes and soldering into place. That is
    their purpose. If you can do that, it will work. The other ideas,
    like wire wrapping, crimping, drilling etc. are just going to give you
    a big ice cream headache. There might be a way to achieve a firm
    mechanical mounting for the terminal strips without soldering them to
    perfboard, but you will have to continue looking for ideas on that,
    because the alternatives mentioned so far are going to be more trouble
    for you than simply soldering the pins to perfboard.
    Whereupon your terminal strips will have a mechanically sound mounting
    substrate, as it were, that you can attach to standoffs or such, and
    have a rigid assembly.
     
  4. kell

    kell Guest

    I just wrote a long post about soldering, but here's another idea...
    Drill a hole in each end of the terminal strip and mount it on
    standoffs. You might be able to just remove one terminal screw from
    each end of the strip and use the screw hole. Just cut the pins off
    with wire cutters. If the terminal strips are a bit flimsy you might
    have to put some material under them for support.
    Or instead of standoffs use a block of (electrically insulating)
    material under the terminal strip, and just screw the terminal strip
    down (after cutting the pins off, of course).
     
  5. Fred Bloggs

    Fred Bloggs Guest

    Yeah- but you said "You haven't read what I wrote" and not anything
    about a preferred way of doing things. So in addition to being an
    arrogant passive/agressive type, you are combative.
    If that's the case then the answer is it's impossible to attach leads of
    that size to that terminal strip...except possibly by individually
    twisting the wires around the "posts" and then using electrical tape.
     
  6. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    There are barrier strip lugs that are bent 90 degrees, so the end can
    go through a hole next to the barrier strip so you can solder to it
    "underneath".

    There are also billions of header connectors out there - try a goolge
    on "AMP MODU".

    Good Luck!
    Rich
     
  7. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    Then wire-wrap is not applicable.

    What's wrong with just soldering them?

    Thanks,
    Rich
     
  8. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    The "nameplate" is actually just an escutcheon; it goes underneath the
    block, and the slots across the bottom can act as a drill template;
    that's also where the pins go through.

    And you just solder your wires to the pins, or use a PCB, and solder
    them to the pads just like any other component.

    Cheers!
    Rich
     
  9. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest


    http://www.google.com/search?q="how+to+solder"

    Cheers!
    Rich
     
  10. John Fields

    John Fields Guest

     
  11. It's hard to tell from the picture, but I think the pins look to be
    too long to be intended to be (too many "to be"s there...) soldered to
    a PC board, so they were probably intended to be used with wire-wrap,
    or some form of connector that could be crimped to the wire.
    Wire-wrap will only work with solid wire, and with the right tool, so
    you probably should solder the wires to the pins - with a little
    practice, it should be easy to make a neat joint.

    First tin both the pin and the wire - heat the pin or wire, and allow
    solder to flow over it - then place the wire on the pin (in-line with
    it), and heat both parts so the solder flows together. I would cover
    the resulting joint with a bit of heat-shrink tubing for neatness.

    If _really_ don't want to solder, go with the other suggestion to use
    crimp terminals on the wires. You should be able to get four wires
    (or terminals) (two each side) under the screw.

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  12. Searcher7

    Searcher7 Guest

    You must be troll #3?

    There is more than one reason not to solder, but I don't have to tell
    you.

    In the first post I asked about wire wrapping and crimp-ons. Not
    soldering. I ruled it out for my own reasons.(Which of course is my
    decision to make).

    But I'd like to thank everyone else who gave me a better idea of what
    I'm dealing with.

    Darren Haris
    Staten.Islander, New York.
     
  13. Searcher7

    Searcher7 Guest

    Thanks a lot.

    I'll have to checek Muser or Digi-key to see what they have.

    BTW. Here are the same pins I have:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130073941165

    and

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190061218667

    Darren Harris
    Staten Island, New York.
     

  14. So, the ability to solder for over 40 years makes me a troll? Plonk.


    --
    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
  15. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    Oh, please do! Tell us one reason besides terminal laziness or just plain
    stubbornness.

    Thanks,
    Rich
     
  16. Searcher7

    Searcher7 Guest

    I guess you're troll #4.

    I find it odd(and immature) that certain individuals get angry and
    start name calling because I don't want to do things their way.

    But keep stomping your feet. It'll change nothing.

    Darren Harris
    Staten Island, New York.
     
  17. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    Show me exactly where it is in this post that you percieve "name
    calling" or "stomping [my] feet".

    All I did was ask for an example to back up your assertions.

    Apparently, you're just a troll who's too lazy to learn to solder.

    Maybe you should go into politics.

    Good-bye and Good Luck!
    Rich
     
  18. Searcher7

    Searcher7 Guest

    No, being a troll makes you a troll. I never said I was doing a hell
    of a lot of owrk to keep from learning to solder.

    Darren Harris
    Staten Island, New York.
     
  19. Searcher7

    Searcher7 Guest

    Oh... You were not referring to me when you mentioned "laziness" and
    "stubbornness"?

    And I made no assertions. I was attempting to get as much info as
    possible about wire wrapping and crimping for my purposes. If you and
    certain others have a problem with that, then you should not have
    posted at all.

    Darren Harris
    Staten Island, New York.
     
  20. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    Well, you've has us all running around in circles for almost a week
    now, insisting that somebody tell you what you want to hear, rather
    than the right answer.

    Good-Bye.
    Rich
     
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