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  1. Non-sequitur.
     
  2. The point is that when you refer to government programs with the word "free"
    you are unintentionally revealing the attitude of a moocher who doesn't
    think in real economic terms.
     
  3. shrtrnd

    shrtrnd

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    You missed the actual cost, because the gov't isn't just 'mandating' it, they'll build
    their own beaurocracy to run it. Your tax dollars won't just be paying medical bills,
    they'll be paying the gov't workers who oversee it.
     
  4. Guest

    Most certainly!
     
  5. Guest

    Um, last year Obama was in office (so much for your IQ). BTW, it was $1.80
    when Obama first walked in the White House. I just paid $3.90 yesterday.
    It's more than doubled since his coronation. He *said* he wanted gas over $4
    to make his "green" energy fly. That's really worked well, too.
    Have you ever thought that there are two variables in supply and demand? No,
    I suppose not.
     
  6. Guest

    Yep, high deductible insurance isn't just for disasters.
     
  7. Guest

    in the same time crude has gone up by 175%

    http://ycharts.com/indicators/brent...ate=9/10/2012&format=indexed&recessions=false
     
  8. Guest

    made me curious, in 2007 USA and Denmark spent about the part of
    the government budget on education 14.4/15.3%

    in Denmark that means 'free' education for everyone that wants it,
    and support from the government while studying, some thing like
    ~1000$/month for a university student over 20 living on his own

    -Lasse
     
  9. Guest

  10. Guest

  11. Guest

    yep all public employees are in a union, most public and private
    employees
    are in a union of some sort

    guess it is a bit unfair to look at % of government budget since the
    danish
    budget as far as I an tell is about 3x the USA per capita

    but the combined cost private and public of education is about the
    same
    7.4/7.2% of BNP, so in total Denmark spends a bit less on education

    doesn't say anything about quality


    -Lasse
     
  12. Guest

    YES.
     
  13. josephkk

    josephkk Guest

    That brings up an interesting aside. A few years back i wanted some
    restorative dentistry done and my insurance would not cover doing it right
    (actually it would not even cover it reasonably; partial dentures are not
    too bad for back teeth but they suck to do not work for front teeth). So
    i, having sufficient income and savings paid about $18,000 out of pocket
    for the work (implants). That is about half (or less) what would been
    charged if insurance had covered it. The administrative paperwork driven
    by Medicare, insurance, and like is the reason. Moreover many extra
    services were provided (multiple osseous surgeries) and the deal was fixed
    price.

    I have read similar stories here.

    YMMV

    ?-)
     
  14. josephkk

    josephkk Guest

    Very much to the point.

    ?-)
     
  15. josephkk

    josephkk Guest

    If we weren't talking about insurance companies i would swear that kind of
    business practice is illegal. It may actually be so, but just not
    prosecuted because it would be futile.
     
  16. josephkk

    josephkk Guest

    Discuse you, but just what part of hiding the costs more(!) is going to
    make them more visible?????

    THIMk!!
     
  17. Maybe they learned how to do it from these guys:-

    http://www.steptoe.com/assets/attachments/1071.pdf


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  18. josephkk

    josephkk Guest

    And you did not "fire" that creep on the spot??????

    Medical care has been commoditized by Medicare. Deal with it.
    BTW Gmail has a spell checker, could you learn to use it?
     
  19. I read some time ago this:

    ------------------------ QUOTE --------------------------
    OK, let’s ask the question: how much overseas financing does the
    United States as a whole need?

    The answer is that it’s determined by an accounting identity: capital
    inflows = the current account deficit, a broad measure of the trade
    balance including income on investments. (Trade can adjust to capital
    flows instead of the other way around, but that’s a longer story).

    So what has happened to the current account deficit as a share of GDP
    in the Obama era? Um, it’s way down:

    <A plot is shown in the original>

    How is it possible that we’re borrowing much less from foreigners when
    the government deficit has gone up so much? The answer is that the
    private sector is deleveraging, having moved into massive surplus as
    consumers try to pay down debt and corporations hold back on
    investment in the face of weak consumer demand. All those government
    deficits have only partly offset this move, so that overall national
    borrowing from overseas is down, not up.

    But what would happen if the private sector stopped deleveraging? The
    answer is, we’d have a strong economic recovery, which would among
    other things greatly reduce the budget deficit. A side implication of
    this point, of course, is that for the time being that deficit is a
    good thing, helping to support the economy while the private sector
    unwinds its excessive leverage.

    So who’s actually financing the US budget deficit? The US private
    sector. We don’t need Chinese bond purchases, and if anything we’re
    the ones with the power, since we don’t need their money and they have
    a lot to lose. In fact, we don’t want them to buy our bonds; better to
    have a weaker dollar (a point that the Japanese actually get.)

    To make excuses for Portman, lots of people keep getting this wrong,
    even after all these years. But really, truly, the last thing we need
    to worry about is whether the Chinese love our bonds.
    -------------------------- END QUOTE
    --------------------------------------------

    Its taken from http://tinyurl.com/8wnfl6g . Great if it's true.

    Regards,
    Mikko
     
  20. rickman

    rickman Guest

    Yes, in the summer they typically are up!

    Rick
     
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