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  1. amdx

    amdx Guest

    I suspect you watched some animation, I didn't.
    I think there will be some *live video when the landing
    begins.

    Watch Curiosity's Landing!
    Aug 5, 2012 10:31 p.m. Pacific
    Aug 6, 2012 1:31 a.m. Eastern
    Aug 6, 2012 5:31 a.m. Universal


    Watch NASA TV Show Online
    Begins Aug 5: 2012
    8:30 p.m. Pacific
    11:30 p.m. Easter

    *13 minute delay

    Your interests may be elsewhere.
    Mikek
     
  2. amdx

    amdx Guest

    I intuitively understood that until Curiosity arrives at Mars
    there will not be any live video from Mars. Thus no sense in
    watching what can only be an animation. I don't want to see an
    animation, I want to see it live.
    In a later post I added the time and date for to help clarify for
    those interested in watching.

    Yes I advertised (gave a heads up) thinking readers could go to
    the site and figure out when to watch.
    Not all readers used the info as I expected.
    Mikek
     
  3. Jon Kirwan

    Jon Kirwan Guest

    Currently, it is about 14 minutes. I checked by watching the
    NASA channel, last night. They mentioned it, specifically.

    Jon
     
  4. Jon Kirwan

    Jon Kirwan Guest

    Just did the computation. Current delay is 13.781 minutes.

    Jon
     
  5. hamilton

    hamilton Guest

    If you are going the speed_of_light, how would they catch you ??
     
  6. amdx

    amdx Guest

  7. Martin Brown

    Martin Brown Guest

    And one that takes a lot of planning since soft sand can ground it.
    Anyway it has landed safely and sent back a B&W postcard.

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/news/msl20120805c.html

    Lets hope the analytical kit will fire up and perform!
     
  8. Rich Webb

    Rich Webb Guest

    Really? Now, something like "Fuckin' Marrrrrrrrs bitches!" might have
    been a little over the top but, given the difficulty (and anxiety) a bit
    of a fist pump doesn't seem too much.
     
  9. Jon Kirwan

    Jon Kirwan Guest

    When a French reporter asked if the team could talk about
    what uniquely important contributions were made by non-USA
    partners in the project there was no answer, except for "our
    partners worked really well with us." They didn't even answer
    the question. But there had been plenty of crowing about all
    the very difficult puzzles that had to be successfully solved
    to achieve this.

    The science advisor did say, without naming countries, that
    there were other countries who benefitted from the
    partnership with the US, because their science projects were
    now safely on Mars. So there was a lot of "taking credit."
    The only cudo I heard went to Australia (and "other
    partners") who had to participate in the communcations effort
    with the mission to bring in the data.

    I felt that there was so much success to go around in this
    project -- it went almost perfectly -- that it wouldn't have
    cost anything at all to have shared this great success with
    an open hand. I wish that opportunity had been taken. But it
    wasn't. And there is no going back, now.

    Jon
     
  10. Tim Williams

    Tim Williams Guest

    LOL, +1.

    I'm surprised http://theoatmeal.com/ hasn't come out with a comic yet,
    though Randall has: http://www.xkcd.com/1091/

    On topic: The Oatmeal supports Tesla, so there :p

    Tim
     
  11. Tim Williams

    Tim Williams Guest

    Why would you want to put squishy meat-sacks into a partial vacuum with
    abundant high-energy radiation? That sounds like a very bad idea.

    Tim
     
  12. Jon Kirwan

    Jon Kirwan Guest

    Can you imagine how much we could do, exploring the solar
    system with robots and craft, with what would be saved had
    the US been even just slightly wiser, let alone much wiser,
    about its warring idiocy? Or if we actually had real rules in
    place with real enforcement behind it for the investment
    bankers? (which still has nothing at all done about it.)

    It makes me sick to realize how little Curiosity cost and how
    many billions in piles of US cash were transported to Iraq
    and then completely lost without any trace. And that's just
    one item of hundreds, perhaps thousands.

    I know for sure where we get more for our dollar.

    Jon
     
  13. Tim Williams

    Tim Williams Guest

    I think it's better to emphasize the squishiness and meatiness than the
    aqueous base.

    Even so, those bags dry out mightily fast in a hard vacuum, you have to
    admit. They'll be preserved very nicely though (minus the cellular damage).
    Now you're just being absurd. What else were they going to do, float a
    dinghy on a tow rope, wait for it to go out, then haul it back and hope for
    spices to appear? Don't forget how many died on those voyages. Not that
    that mattered; death was common back then, and states were more eager to
    grow their empires.

    Neither the expense of launching "spam in a can", nor the loss of human
    life, is tolerable today. We have much cheaper, and much better, ways of
    doing things, ways that couldn't be dreamed of.

    Remember further, few of the earliest explorers, settlers or pilgrims were
    even moderately prepared for survival, during the journey and in the
    wilderness. And that's landing on a continent covered in green stuff.
    There's food and shelter anywhere you look, you just have to know where to
    go and what to pick. And they couldn't even do that.

    Later on, once we've gotten enough infrastructure out there (in orbit, on
    the Moon, asteroids, Mars, etc.) that we can have life support available,
    then, and only then, can humans move in, and again do some truely amazing
    things. But that's only possible once they can be self sufficient. This
    might be another 50-100 years -- which by a more suitable analogy with
    history, seems reasonable.

    Tim
     
  14. hamilton

    hamilton Guest

    Only if we forget we sent them.

    "Stranger in a Strange land"
     
  15. If the purpose is to establish a permanent colony, then sending a few
    scores of fertile women and some frozen test tubes on a one-way trip
    to a location prepped by robotics could do the trick-- with enough
    genetic diversity.
     
  16. T

    T Guest

    I'd estimate that ten years of warfare in Afghanistan and a little less
    in Iraq could have paid for an ion driven starship.

    We'd at least be on our way to Alpha Centauri by now.
     
  17. T

    T Guest

    That's a great book even if it is total fantasy.
     
  18. josephkk

    josephkk Guest

    The bet is real, but the denigration of Heinlein is a bit unfair. There
    is more to the book than pseudoreligions; it also addresses power
    politics, social conventions, some bits of Whorf's hypothesis, and some
    other related issues.

    ?-)
     
  19. josephkk

    josephkk Guest

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