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Discussion in 'Security Alarms' started by Matt Ion, Jan 22, 2007.

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  1. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    Okay, wanting to know if anyone knows of a CCTV-style video camera with actual
    HD output that could feed (preferably in 1080p) directly into an HDTV receiver,
    whether it be component, HDMI, etc. - basically something that's JUST a video
    camera, relatively compact, no recording.

    Only option I've been able to come up with so far is ONE Sony 'handycam'-type
    unit with HDMI output - most HD camcorders only only seem to output standard
    composite/S-video for monitoring and HD is just transferred to the computer via
    Firewire.

    Hi-res IP cameras are an outside option, but that requires a computer to get the
    picture onto an HDTV - sort of unwanted extra complexity and expense.
     
  2. Okay, wanting to know if anyone knows
    Sony makes a model DRC-H700 camera with 1080i HD output. They refer to it as a robotic camera. The intended use is for video
    conferencing. We sell it online.

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    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

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    Bass Home Electronics
    941-866-1100
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  3. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    I'm not 100% sure. I'm told the client wants something he can plug into his
    existing HDTV. Apparently he doesn't understand why he needs a computer to view
    an IP camera as well... *sigh*
     
  4. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    I think that's the one my boss already found... no, I'm not buying anything from
    you.
     
  5. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    Hmm, nope, not the same one he found. And US$9k list is a little beyond the
    price range, especially when a suitable IP camera would only need a $300
    computer behind it...
     
  6. I think that's the one my boss already
    They're available through distribution. I was trying to help.
     
  7. Hmm, nope, not the same one he found.
    Your client wants HD. Does he
    think he's going to get it for cheap?

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-866-1100
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  8. They're available through distribution.
    I was trying to help you locate the correct
    product. Best of luck finding something.
     
  9. Chingas

    Chingas Guest


    Atta boy...

    Anyway, does the customer *really* need 1080p???? Very few monitors
    will display it, and besides --- how much movement is happening to
    justify that kind of bandwidth?

    Look around for the cams they use to 'film' documentaries on the
    Discovery Channel and such - the cams are surprisingly cheap.

    http://digitalcontentproducer.com/cameras/prods/



    Consumer grade HD:
    http://www.camcorderinfo.com/conten...-Less-Expensive-HDR-FX7-with-3-CMOS-Chips.htm


    -cracker
     
  10. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    No, but I hardly think we'll be able to sell him on $9k for a single camera.
     
  11. Matt Ion

    Matt Ion Guest

    Don't get too excited... I'm not hopping on the anti-Bass bandwagon just yet,
    but I also don't like being pandered to. Obviously I'm not just some DIY shmoe
    dropping by here for Bass to sell stuff to. I asked for suggestions, not sources.
    Well, I finally got some more details on the "project". It's a, uh... shall we
    say, 'service facility' (no, nothing tawdry, just don't want to give away too
    many details on a POTENTIAL client) where they want to display live events on an
    existing big-screen flatpanel *and* projector within the facility. Still
    waiting for details on each to find out what they even have for inputs.

    Of course, since we originally pushed the IP-camera idea, they've decided that
    since they needed to have a computer anyway, they should also want to be able to
    webcast AND burn off DVDs for the departing customers as well, but of course,
    they want it all to be "easy", and I can't come up with any way to really do
    this with an IP camera - recording to the PC and then transcoding and authoring
    a DVD is just too time-consuming and not particularly mindless.

    Tentative idea at this point is to use a Sony HDR-SR1, which can output via HDMI
    (only one I've found so far with that capability) to the big display, record in
    SD to an internal hard drive in MPEG-2 format (that can then be readily dumped
    to the PC via USB for DVD authoring), and ultimately I suppose, streamed to web
    through a simple video-capture box from the composite output.

    Whether they REALLY need 1080p, I don't know... I guess it's more a matter of,
    their existing TV is capable of it, so they want to use it all. Frankly, I'm
    not even convinced that they really even need better than SD, but hey, it's
    their money - mine is not to reason why.
    Thanks, I'll check those out...
     
  12. spike

    spike Guest

    don't forget your markup. :)
     
  13. No, but I hardly think we'll be able to
    Explain what HD vs. "hi res" costs and show him a hi res conventional image. He'll be happy to order from you. And no, I won't
    sell you anything.

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-866-1100
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  14. Don't get too excited... I'm not hopping on the anti-Bass bandwagon just yet, but I also don't like being pandered to. Obviously
    I assumed you were a dealer and offered a suggestion. I had no intention of sourcing anything for you since presumably you can
    order the same places I do.

    No. He probably saw how great TV looks in HD and assumed CCTV would be just as good without realizing how much HD costs.

    Lots of monitors will display it. The problem is they're also very expensive and for CCTV it's not worth the cost.
    You may find it easier to implement using
    an Internet-ready DVR such as Speco's
    new one. I mentioned it recently (don't
    recall which thread). The customer uses
    a web browser to view / operate the DVR.
    Connect a few conventional or IP cameras
    to the DVR. Let them use the PC's
    built-in DVD burner and you won't have to
    service it.
    Probably not but you really need to find
    that out for sure first or you'll price yourself
    out of the job trying to accommodate a
    want that isn't a need.

    Ignoring the original rudeness in return
    for replying to your request for help, I'm
    not trying to sell you anything. If you
    happen to need something I sell I'll
    give you the number of my distributor.
    However, I neither said nor did anything
    to deserve your rude response.
     
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