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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by panfilero, Feb 10, 2007.

  1. panfilero

    panfilero Guest

    Hello, I just got a MC9S12NE64 microcontoller and a development board,
    and I've been trying to access my microcontroller through the
    hyperterminal on my computer but have been having a really hard time.
    I couldn't find any serial port driver files for this MCU, but had
    some for a MC9S12C32 which i tried to modify to use with my MCU... my
    code compiles on codewarrior and loads into my MCU but.... I can't get
    it to show anything on the hyperterminal.... I was wondering if anyone
    could tell me what steps I need to take to do this serial
    communication with my MCU, or if anyone knows of any good resources or
    websites where i could find driver files for this? My ultimate goal
    is to control a programmable power supply through the serial port of
    my MCU, so I'm trying to get familiar with the serial port by
    accessing it through a hyperterminal....

    any help or suggestions would be greatly appresicated,
    thank you
    Joshua
     
  2. Jerry Avins

    Jerry Avins Guest

    There is more than one development board for that processor. I don't
    remember if the SCI can be used as a UART, but the processor has plenty
    of oomph to do bit banging. Are there no hints or code examples in the
    accompanying literature?

    Look for a configuration register. That might point you in the right
    direction. There has to be some way to start the thing up.

    Jerry
     
  3. SFC

    SFC Guest

    First check the serial cable. Do you get an echo when pins 2&3 are shorted?

    SFC
     
  4. SFC

    SFC Guest

     
  5. Tim Wescott

    Tim Wescott Guest

    Generally there aren't good drivers for the little embedded processors
    like this -- the ones that you get from the chip manufacturers are
    written by kids fresh out of school who have little practical
    experience. If they're useful at all they're good to learn how the
    peripheral works, but they're not good for a driver that you can
    integrate into a larger application.

    So what to do?

    Check your cable, as SFC has suggested.

    Check the voltages coming out of the board to make sure they're RS-232
    compliant.

    Assuming your cable is good, look through the driver that you have, and
    your chip manual, CAREFULLY. Peripherals on microprocessors have gotten
    very flexible, which means that they're very complex to program. Most
    of them have what I like to call "screw the processor bits" -- there
    will be at least one bit in a seemingly unrelated register that you have
    to set to make things work. These magic bits are often found in the
    on-board timer section (to get a clock to your peripheral), or the
    pin-driver section (to get the signals out), or the CPU interrupt
    section (to get an interrupt out to the CPU).

    Were I having trouble with this sort of thing I would first try to get
    the thing to send out test characters, one by one, without even thinking
    of using interrupts. I'd hook the thing up to a terminal program, sure,
    but I'd also hook it up to a scope, logic analyzer, or logic probe to
    make sure that the output was at least wiggling. A scope is very useful
    here, because in one swoop it tells you that the voltages are OK or not,
    that the pins are wiggling or not, and that the baud rate is correct or not.

    Once I had it working in transmit then I would address receive and
    interrupts. (Note that normally I just dive in to trying to get it
    working interrupts and all, but I often have to backtrack).

    Good luck -- serial comms is generally something that has you tearing
    your hair out for a while, then suddenly starts working. If you're
    lucky, it'll even start working correctly. Generally once you do get it
    working it'll work forever, though.

    --

    Tim Wescott
    Wescott Design Services
    http://www.wescottdesign.com

    Posting from Google? See http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/

    "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" came out in April.
    See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html
     
  6. panfilero

    panfilero Guest

    I'm pretty new to microcontrollers, how do I short the serial and get
    it to echo? The development board I got is the: CME-12NE64-DEV
    here's a link to it: http://www.axman.com/?q=node/257
    it has 2 serial ports, i thought i would connect them both to them
    computer in order to communicate with my chip through the
    hyperterminal..... I got some code from this guy's web site: http://
    users.ece.utexas.edu/~valvano/index.html
    and tried to modify it a bit to work with my MCU, and I get it to
    compile and run... but can't get anything to happen on the
    hyperterminal..... I'm wondering if I have to fonfigure the other
    serial port somehow, maybe it's not outputting.... If I set serial
    port 1 on codewarrior to load my MCU with the program, I was thinking
    I could plug the other serial port into com 2 on my computer and have
    hyperterminal set up on com 2, to recieve and transfer data.... I
    don't know if I'm thinking about this correctly.

    thanks
    Joshua
     
  7. Jamie

    Jamie Guest

    RX pin goes to TX pin.., that should do it.
     
  8. Tim Wescott

    Tim Wescott Guest

    Pins 2 and 3 are the transmit and receive pins. If you short them
    together, and the cable is working, then the computer will be talking to
    itself.

    It's a good test to make sure that everything up to the board is in
    working order -- if there's something wrong on the host side any work
    you do on the target board side is wasted effort.

    --

    Tim Wescott
    Wescott Design Services
    http://www.wescottdesign.com

    Posting from Google? See http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/

    "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" came out in April.
    See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html
     
  9. Another embedded engineer needs his diapers changed...
    And don't forget to connect it to the power...

    Vladimir Vassilevsky

    DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant

    http://www.abvolt.com
     
  10. CBFalconer

    CBFalconer Guest

    He may also have to jump the appropriate supervisory signals,
    depending on the software configuration, such as RTS to DTR, etc.
    A properly wired single connector is handy.

    Excessive cross post cut back in follow-ups.

    --
    <http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
    <http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>

    "A man who is right every time is not likely to do very much."
    -- Francis Crick, co-discover of DNA
    "There is nothing more amazing than stupidity in action."
    -- Thomas Matthews
     
  11. Jerry Avins

    Jerry Avins Guest

    You short the same two pins on the terminal side to make it loop back.
    If both board and terminal work separately but they don't work together,
    first make sure the baud rates are the same, then that the "common"
    ground is really common.

    Jerry
     
  12. Jerry Avins

    Jerry Avins Guest

    Give the guy a break. I use my breakout box, but I'll wager he doesn't
    have one. Did he say he was an engineer? He's trying to get started.
    That you and I did that before we got to high school may confer bragging
    rights, but not sneering rights.

    Jerry
     
  13. Tim Wescott

    Tim Wescott Guest

    I remember a case where the "common" ground had a 50V difference between
    conductors. We discovered this _after_ we found the burnt place where
    the serial port card's ground trace used to be.

    --

    Tim Wescott
    Wescott Design Services
    http://www.wescottdesign.com

    Posting from Google? See http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/

    "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" came out in April.
    See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html
     
  14. LOL. I remember the time we discovered the dufus^H^H^H^H customer had
    swapped the ground and hot wires in the line cord. Surprisingly, the
    test PC serial port survived.


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  15. Jerry Avins

    Jerry Avins Guest

  16. Jerry Avins

    Jerry Avins Guest

    I'm glad the dufus^H^H^H^H customer survived. I remember when one phase
    of the 220V line got connected to the 5V bus on a small mainframe
    computer. (Small meant that it filled only one room.)

    Jerry
     
  17. CBFalconer

    CBFalconer Guest

    Over 40 years ago we lost a wall to wall breadboard (something like
    6 full benches of wires, transistors, resistors, caps, and diodes)
    to a frayed soldering iron cord. Plastic transistors literally
    exploded. It took about two months to recover. You can see the
    end result at:

    <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net/firstpc/>

    Follow-ups set to remove excessive cross-posting.

    --
    <http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt>
    <http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423>

    "A man who is right every time is not likely to do very much."
    -- Francis Crick, co-discover of DNA
    "There is nothing more amazing than stupidity in action."
    -- Thomas Matthews
     
  18. Guest

    Okay, I have the same board on my desk.
    Well, two things to keep in mind. One is that when you use the serial
    monitor instead of a BDM pod, you loose SCIA. So make sure you code
    is talking to the registers for SCIB.

    The second thing is that your board can do some funky IR serial
    comms. There's a dip switch near the second serial port, and you need
    to have that set appropriately so that you have the serial level
    shifter hooked up to the MCU and not the IR thingy instead/also. I
    will never admit how much time I wasted trying to figure out where
    those extra characters were coming from!

    Last piece of advice: do yourself a favor and spring for a USB BDM
    pod. It's relatively cheap (less than half the cost of your eval
    board) and gives you full access to the chip, and both serial ports.

    In terms of testing, I would recommend you try to get the NE64 sending
    at the PC first. Stick a good old LED between the TXD and ground and
    see that it's doing something (then halt your processor and see that
    it stops). The do the same thing for the PC - see that the led
    flashes when you hold down keys in the terminal program. Once they
    are both talking, you can see about pursuading them to listen - the
    NE64 receive fifo is only one deep so your probably want interrupts
    (my interrupt routine just copies the characters into a software fifo
    for dealing with later at leisure)
     
  19. werty

    werty Guest

    We are scared of being electrocuted ,
    so we put boxes around everything
    then hook box to the "nuetral" AC .
    Then we isolate the output power
    supply from the AC mains , but there
    is so much coupling , scopes dont work .

    All for fear , for "safety" .

    The box is supposed to allow a
    path for current to open a ckt breaker ,
    instead of that wire making contact
    with humans .
    It just makes jobs for gov't types .

    Now that high powered CPU's
    and color LCD's are low cost ,
    its a good time to trash some old
    obsolete software , like M$ and Linux
    and C++ .
    I now have 15 ARM cpu's in various
    boxes , like GP2X and NDS-Lite
    gameboxs .
    I will hack to install a piece of code
    that coexists for a while , then pushes
    out the orig OpSys .
    I will not use any of the popular
    methods , no C, no assemblers ,
    Its much faster and less agravating,
    cause i dont have to study anyones
    obtuse source code text .

    In several KB , i will have a non-text
    GUI dis-assembler .
    Track-ball and a low res LCD ....

    Hacking is fun ..
     
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