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  1. bigone5500

    bigone5500

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    I have this: http://www.harborfreight.com/automatic-battery-float-charger-42292.html

    I decided to take the case off and see what type of circuitry it was comprised of. The wall wart has an output of 15vdc @ 500mA. I have some questions now.

    1) The input of the board has an ABS10 bridge rectifier...why do we need a bridge rectifier on DC voltage?

    2) It also has a CW7805 regulator. I am assuming that it is for current regulation? - I figured it out. It's for the onboard LED indicator. DOH!!!

    3) The board also has a MJD41C complimentary power transistor DPAK case. Does this transistor control the 'on/off' of the charging current?

    I will get my phone and take some photos later.

    Thanks.

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  2. bigone5500

    bigone5500

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    My goal is to reproduce this circuit on paper. I suppose I'm bored...:(
     
  3. bigone5500

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    Here are a couple photos.

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  4. Harald Kapp

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    Because the input is AC 120 V / 60 Hz?
    You'll have to trace the full circuit to identify the function of each component. Possibly the two transistors operate in tandem to limit voltage and current.
     
  5. bigone5500

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    Actually the input to the board is DC. The plug in transformer rectifiers it from 110vac to DC voltage. Which is why I am confused. If it is already rectified, then why does the board have a bridge?
     
  6. Harald Kapp

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    O.k., I see. Then I can imagine two possibilities:
    1. the board is used with another transformer, too, which outputs AC or
    2. the bridge rectifier is a safety feature so the manufacturer doesn't have to care about the right polarity when soldering the wires from the transformer onto the board.
    Edit: I see a third possibility: The rating on the transformer may be for the whole unit incl. the charger box. This is supported by the "CC = constant current" on the label and I'm quite certain that the CC feature is in the box, not the wall wart. It's easy to measure this with a multimeter.
     
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2015
  7. bigone5500

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    Harald, my apologies. I was naive and simply assumed that the wall wart had initial DC output. It does not. I had initially used my meter on the output of the board and found that it had a voltage of 14.8vdc. I assumed that the label of the wall wart was true of the output that I had measured. The input is 14.8vac. So now my confusion is alleviated. I can now continue with Project Boredom.

    Lesson learned: use a meter...:rolleyes:
     
  8. Harald Kapp

    Harald Kapp Moderator Moderator

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    You're welcome.
    Go ahead and let us participate in your discoveries.
     
  9. bigone5500

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    I believe I have completed the schematic for the float charger. The parts list is as follows:

    R1 - 1000
    R2 - 3000
    R3 - 5600
    R4 - 5600
    R6 - 4700
    C1 - 1000uF, 25v
    Q1 - MJD41C
    Q2 - CW7805
    Q3 - J3 (SOT23 package)
    D1 - M7
    LED - Generic Red LED
    D1-D4 - Bridge Rectifier

    MJD41C is an NPN Transistor
    D1-D4 (ABS10) is a 5.4A Bridge Rectifier
    J3 is an NPN Silicon Epitaxial Planar Transistor
    M7 is a 50V, 1A Diode
    CW7805 is a 1.5A, 5v Regulator

    I drew this out to the best of my abilities and am pretty confident that it is correct. Please review the image and see if you can find any discrepancies. Please note that the transformer is just so I could have an input source.
    *edit* I made a mistake and tried to change D5 to D1. I have deleted the file from my computer and re-uploaded it to the thread. However, it still says D5...??? I will make another reply.

    HFT Float Charger Schematic.jpg
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2015
  10. bigone5500

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    I am having to rework my schematic...please stand by...

    Please see above post regarding the re-worked schematic.

    Thank you.
     
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2015
  11. foobar1

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    This is the schematic. 7805 along with divider network R1+R2/R3 makes a 12V constant voltage source. Q2 is a switch which turns off if Q1 turns on under the over load conditions.
     

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