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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Mikey, Jul 3, 2005.

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  1. Mikey

    Mikey Guest

    Hello, All!

    I am granted patent on electronic device and now need produce product. I am
    technical person but know little business. I need investor and have write
    business plan for investor. How


    With best regards, Mikey. E-mail:
  2. read this

  3. Fred Bloggs

    Fred Bloggs Guest

  4. Hi Fred,
    Have you got any alternative sites worth looking at?

  5. Mikey

    Mikey Guest

    Hello, martin!
    You wrote on Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:28:38 +0200:

    ??>> Hello, All!
    ??>> I am granted patent on electronic device and now need produce product.
    ??>> I am technical person but know little business. I need investor and
    ??>> have write business plan for investor. How Thank With best regards,
    ??>> Mikey. E-mail:
    mg> read this


    Product have many tecnical part which known but make work in better way.
    Patent protect low idea. Little money for patent but is protect.

    With best regards, Mikey. E-mail:
  6. keith

    keith Guest

    A patent doesn't protect *anything*. All it is is a license to sue. You
    still have to pay the lawyers.
  7. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    Don seems like about the most non-neurotic person on Earth, after me.

  8. Guest

    Hey Mike,
    Since you have been granted a patent, what is the number? It is easier
    to provide advice once we have seen the patent.

    I have worked for lawyers on both sides of the patent issue, defending
    and writing work-arounds. Don Lancaster is correct that making money is

    tough (unless you are a lawyer).

  9. Since patents is about bucks, what can
    you shell out ?

  10. No one seems to be adreeing this point, so I will. Its the downer.

    No one cares a toss about patents. Ideas are 10 a penny. The likelihood
    that you have an idea that has any value, is next to zero. Every Tom
    Dick and Harry thinks they have a greate idea. They are *millions* of
    complexly worthless patents that have never made anyone any money.

    A mate of mine with his own start-up, made his millions not by any
    patents, but simply being the first to design a new chip that Cypress
    wanted at that time. They bought his company for $30M.

    Its finished product people want, not bedroom musings.

    My only regret is that at the start up of my mates company, he offered
    me a design job with 150,000 share options, and I went elsewhere...

    Kevin Aylward
    SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
    Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
    Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
  11. john jardine

    john jardine Guest

    As a general comment ...
    Last week I came across a recent Italian patent covering the action of a
    mouse scroll wheel.
    A 'novel and inventive idea' in the eye of European law, this patent (claim
    #1), described how the faster you scrolled the mouse wheel, the faster the
    screen display moved. Whoever would have thought of that!. Incredulous, I
    subsequently turned up dozens of other patents based around the scroll
    wheel. All vacuous, all obvious, all without merit.

    Something's now seriously amiss within the world of intellectual property
    legislation. Dross patents such as these and the millions more like them are
    now par for the course. Individual basic innovation and enterprise, is now
    well and truly being stifled in favour of large companies with sufficient
    resources to Hoover-up any and all of this kind of rubbish.
    At one time there was a useful spam/junk filter, in that a proposed idea
    needed to pass the test of being seen as 'worthy' by another skilled in the
    same art.
    No longer. These assessments now seem made by spotty kiddies who've just
    passed their patent exams.

    Problem is, that although this spam has no trace of any inventive or
    technical merit, it is not worthless. Far from it. It is of priceless value
    to the lawyers who are employed to fight over it.
    They generate the spam. They defend the spam. They trouser the fortunes.

    The European parliament is shortly voting on whether to allow software
    patenting. I see this as an obscenity, yet know for sure the final vote
    outcome. (many MEPs come from a legal background).

    Then again ... as last week's New Scientist article suggested, maybe we've
    just run out of ideas. We're only getting what we deserve.

  12. Genome

    Genome Guest

    ****!...... does that mean that Don has no neurons and, my head hurts now,
    you somehow better him. Like.... no that can't work.

    Ahh, it's a relative measurement. Don doesn't have many and you have less so
    you work better.


  13. Do we really ?
    Another comment on patents.
    I once made a patent research at the time the IBM server
    had the american patents viewable for free. With some
    spare time at hand I browsed trough a stack of patents
    beside those I was to have a look at. Amazingly, at least
    99% of the patents I had a look at had an invention height
    such close to zero, that a logarithmic scale was required
    to cathegorize them. IMO patents are the path of lawyers
    to cut a slice off the juicy turkey.

  14. JeffM

    JeffM Guest

  15. Terry Given

    Terry Given Guest

    hear hear. I've seen some seriously ridiculous patents. IMO one serious
    problem is the so-called patent search. Wherein people simply search
    patents to "prove" their idea is new. That only proves the idea hasnt
    been patented, not that it hasnt been published or implemented.

  16. keith

    keith Guest

    It's impossible to search everything ever created, since many are not
    published at all. However searches _are_ done on most publications (IEEE
    papers, conference proceedings, etc.) before patents are issued. Perhaps
    not well enough, but...

    The one thing I think would solve 90% of the problems would be a 90-day
    (pick a period) request for comment period before the patent issues.
    During this time others can bring relevant/prior art to light, without
    the cost of litigation. Of course the problem here is the last three
    words. ;-)
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