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Good Beginners kits

I'm looking for opinions on what the best beginner electronics kit or
lab based kit might be. I don't necessarily care if it is for adults
or not, but I do want one with a well written guide and especially one
where all the circuits described work.

Thanks in advance.

Jeremy
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for opinions on what the best beginner electronics kit or
lab based kit might be. I don't necessarily care if it is for adults
or not, but I do want one with a well written guide and especially one
where all the circuits described work.

The Radio Shack ones work OK.
 
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Stanislaw Flatto

Jan 1, 1970
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and especially one
where all the circuits described work.

And ask the supplier of such to attach an oldtimer who can to build them
on first go without errors.

Good hunting
Thanks in advance.

Jeremy

Stanislaw
 
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Augspies

Jan 1, 1970
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And ask the supplier of such to attach an oldtimer who can to build them
on first go without errors.

Good hunting





Stanislaw

I take it then that most basic circuit build schematics in these kits
are flawed in some way?

Tronix seems to be a decent kit for a decent price.
 
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Michael Black

Jan 1, 1970
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Augspies" ([email protected]) said:
I take it then that most basic circuit build schematics in these kits
are flawed in some way?
I think that likely applies to schematics someone might find "somewhere",
but I don't know if it applies to kits.

But, a beginner is often faced with a lot of things. I think of the
first time I tried to build something, and it never worked. It likely
had a lot to do with my soldering ability (or lack thereof), but I didn't
know enough whether the substitues I got at the store were suitable, or
whether I wired the coil right (I followed the pictorial, but who knows
whether the coil I bought matched what the article used), or even if I
wired things right.

The beginner often doesn't have the means of finding errors after they
make them. This isn't the fault of the beginner, it's part of being
a beginner. They can look at what they wired, and be "certain" it's right,
while someone other than them with experience might spot something wrong
right away. There can often be assumptions made in construction articles
or kits that the beginner won't know about, again because they are beginners.
WIth experience, you can look at a circuit and know what it's doing and
immdiately make some guesses about what to try if it doesn't work, but
the beginner hasn't gotten to that point.

Of course, these early steps are the foundation for the later. The beginner
has to stick with it long enough to get over those high first steps, and
then it starts getting a lot easier.

Michael
 
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Freelance Embedded Systems Engineer

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for opinions on what the best beginner electronics kit or
lab based kit might be. I don't necessarily care if it is for adults
or not, but I do want one with a well written guide and especially one
where all the circuits described work.
Thanks in advance. Jeremy

Kits-r-Us
http://www.kitsrus.com

Documentation and Forum available online.
 
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Augspies

Jan 1, 1970
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I think that likely applies to schematics someone might find "somewhere",
but I don't know if it applies to kits.

But, a beginner is often faced with a lot of things. I think of the
first time I tried to build something, and it never worked. It likely
had a lot to do with my soldering ability (or lack thereof), but I didn't
know enough whether the substitues I got at the store were suitable, or
whether I wired the coil right (I followed the pictorial, but who knows
whether the coil I bought matched what the article used), or even if I
wired things right.

The beginner often doesn't have the means of finding errors after they
make them. This isn't the fault of the beginner, it's part of being
a beginner. They can look at what they wired, and be "certain" it's right,
while someone other than them with experience might spot something wrong
right away. There can often be assumptions made in construction articles
or kits that the beginner won't know about, again because they are beginners.
WIth experience, you can look at a circuit and know what it's doing and
immdiately make some guesses about what to try if it doesn't work, but
the beginner hasn't gotten to that point.

Of course, these early steps are the foundation for the later. The beginner
has to stick with it long enough to get over those high first steps, and
then it starts getting a lot easier.

Michael

Michael,

Thanks for the info. Yeah, I figure assumptions made by the designer
of the kit are many times the
greatest problem. I'll look into local electronics groups to help me
if I run into one of these situations.

I think I'm going to go with the Tronix kit. It seems basic enough
and covers all the bases.

If I get stumped I'll post.

Thanks for the help.

Jeremy
 
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Augspies

Jan 1, 1970
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Kits-r-Ushttp://www.kitsrus.com

Documentation and Forum available online.


Thanks those look good, but I'm an absolute beginner so I'm looking
for something that will take me through all the basic theory with
hands on lab style circuit building. I'll bookmark that site for when
I have more understanding.

Jeremy
 
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Freelance Embedded Systems Engineer

Jan 1, 1970
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Augspies said:
Thanks those look good, but I'm an absolute beginner so I'm looking
for something that will take me through all the basic theory with
hands on lab style circuit building. I'll bookmark that site for when
I have more understanding.

Jeremy
Forrest M. Mims III wrote the RadioShack mini series bookslets.
These have been assembled into one book, Getting Started in Electronics.
See: http://www.forrestmims.org/publications.html
 
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Jonathan Kirwan

Jan 1, 1970
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Forrest M. Mims III wrote the RadioShack mini series bookslets.
These have been assembled into one book, Getting Started in Electronics.
See: http://www.forrestmims.org/publications.html

I'd consider any of that series more of a terse reminder than
something that walks one "through all the basic theory." Even the
Basic Semiconductor Circuits book, which does point up parallel and
series circuits with resistors and capacitors is rather rushed about
things. However, his booklets would make an excellent source of
circuits to ask about the design details, here.

The Art of Electronics, 2nd ed., (and the student manual, which is a
must-have addition as it covers details of design not well covered in
the textbook) does more than many on this subject. But it's not for
everyone, either. Very little can replace having access to someone
who can help pass along mental models and ideas they've developed over
time for thinking about things. Which is what I'd see this group as
helping supplement.

Hmm.... Makes me wonder if there should be a Wiki set up for
electronics, where contributors provide explanations of every circuit
under the sun and other contributors add, enhance, or correct the
information over time so that the result gets better and better as a
teaching resource over time. In addition, information on various
parts and what is worthwhile knowing about them -- things like what
makes a polypropylene cap worth it's size and cost, etc.

Jon
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks those look good, but I'm an absolute beginner so I'm looking
for something that will take me through all the basic theory with
hands on lab style circuit building. I'll bookmark that site for when
I have more understanding.

There was an old book by Ladybug(?) Books called "Build your own transistor
set" or similar. It took you stage by stage from a simple crystal set up to
a two transistor set. My firm actually put kits together for this to sell
along with the book but that was 30 years ago.

I think I still have a copy somewhere.
 
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