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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Spehro Pefhany, Dec 25, 2005.

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  1. The instructions on an inexpensive Dremel-type rotary tool set (tool,
    case etc.- 229 pieces for C$49) say "Handling the power cord on this
    product may expose you to lead, a chemical known to (sic) the State of
    California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive
    harm. _Wash hands after handling_.

    Now, the prongs look to be nickel plated, and the rest of the power
    cord is covered by PVC (and, incidentally, the web site of the
    manufacturer says their stuff is RoHS compliant).

    Amusingly, the power cord manufacturer also makes passive 'scope

    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
  2. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Must be a new required legalese... it's also on a lighted garland I
    just bought.

    ...Jim Thompson
  3. My guess is that they are produced in a factory where lead-based solder is
    still being used.

    The warning is there in case any gets splashed or dusted where it shouldn't.
  4. ehsjr

    ehsjr Guest

    Wait! Dremels cause birth defects in California?
    I do NOT want to know how they do that ... :)
  5. Why isn't there a similar warning printed on every sheet of bumwad?

    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
  6. Bob Monsen

    Bob Monsen Guest

    Buildings in California have held that kind of warning for years. When I
    worked in Berkeley in the late 80s, I was greeted with a warning about
    the building itself causing cancer as I entered each day. Thankfully, I
    was apparently immune to the effects.

    The problem is that warnings like these make it hard to determine the
    real problems... If everything is scary, nothing is scary, even things
    that are truly dangerous.

    Bob Monsen

    A prude is a person who thinks that his own rules of propriety are
    natural laws. You are almost entirely free of this prevalent evil.
  7. Hal Murray

    Hal Murray Guest

    Buildings in California have held that kind of warning for years. When I
    Agreed, but if you spend any time in the building you can ask
    around and find out why they put the signs up. If it's an old
    building, lead paint and asbestos are likely. I don't think either
    is much of a problem in normal usage but could get interesting if
    you are fishing cables through an old dusty area.
  8. Mark Zenier

    Mark Zenier Guest

    They use some lead compound as a plasticizer in vinyl. There's an
    ongoing media frenzy about soft plastic school lunch boxes, and there
    were some warnings about plastic roll up blinds that shed a lot of lead
    when they aged in the sun and broke down into plastic dust.

    Mark Zenier
    Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)
  9. You need to use the flex-shaft attachment and a special head.

    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
  10. John  Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    We have warnings everywhere. Bars post the "known to the State of
    California to cause cancer" notices about the beer. None of the state
    Legislators drink beer, of course.

  11. John  Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    Isn't lead used as a catalyst in some plastics? Of course the Dremel
    tosses all sorts of nasties into the air... just take a cutting wheel
    to a piece of stainless.

  12. Guest

  13. Guest

    I might be missing something obvious here, but why the (sic)?

    Merry Christmas,

  14. It's because I think it should be a "by" rather than "to". Sentence

    A is known by B to cause X and Y or Z.

    Do you disagree?

    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
  15. John  Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

  16. John  Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    Because, based on the stupid laws we have here, the "State of
    California" doesn't personally know much of anything.

  17. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    Hello John,
    No, only Chardonnay and imported Camembert cheese.

    Occasionally I read to my wife what's written in large capital print on
    the beer bottles: "Women should not drink alcoholic beverages".

    In California stuff like this is really getting overboard. I have seen
    devices that were too small to hold all those warnings so they had 2-3
    tags dangling from them. Do not put into mouth while foot is in mouth
    and so on. One tag got caught in a gear and that almost caused a serious
    accident. Pathetic. We really need to lose some bureaucrats. Starve the
    beats, but voters here don't seem to comprehend.

    Pretty soon the warnings may have to be bilingual.

    Regards, Joerg
  18. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Already are in Arizona... now known as North Sonora ;-)

    ...Jim Thompson
  19. Tim Shoppa

    Tim Shoppa Guest

    Last spring I bought some really nice Goodyear-brand garden hose
    sprayers. But attached to each one was a warning that you can get
    electrocuted by using the device...

    If you aim it at high-voltage lines while spraying water!

  20. Tim Shoppa

    Tim Shoppa Guest

    Joe Jackson, circa 1982, "Everything Causes Cancer".

    What's very amazing is that if, say, 1000 researchers look for power
    (or anything else) as a cause of cancer, and only publish if the
    indicate 99% probability that it is a cause, then 10 articles get

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