Fuel flow meter for cars .. ?

[Michael A. Terrell]

LOL, of course a modern EFI vehicle uses less fuel if you coast with it
in the highest gear and the throttle closed. Drop it out of gear or use
the clutch and it uses fuel to keep the engine spinning.

The farthest I've ever coasted downhill was about seven and a half
miles, after I ran out of gas at four in the morning.


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Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael Kennedy]

The farthest I've ever coasted downhill was about seven and a half
miles, after I ran out of gas at four in the morning.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Well that obviously was not here in Florida, but sounds like an adventure.

Mike

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Well that obviously was not here in Florida, but sounds like an adventure.

I was moving from Ohio to Central Florida in the late '80s. I was
driving a Chevy stepvan, and the gas gauge had quit. It was about 4:00
AM, and I had been up for over 30 hours, in an attempt to get to Florida
before my tag expired. I was in the hills of Kentucky, and was about to
pass a sign that said, "Next exit, 7 miles" when the engine sputtered
and died. To make a long story short, i made it to the exit, made a hard
right turn and coasted over a half mile to a gas station, and rolled to
a stop about 50 feet from the closest pump. Believe me, that entire
trip was a real test of my faith, in everything. I made it to my
destination about fifteen minutes before midnight, a couple miles north
of Eustis, on Hwy. 452.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

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Don't buy any kind of a vehicle that didn't come factory equipped with a
two barrel (or one barrel) carburetor.

A guy who lives in a house on a street behind me, he has a nice looking
1990 Chevrolet RV van with a 350 cubic inch engine and the engine has a
throttle body fuel injection thingy, for sale, $1,100.The van has about
90,000 miles on it.

I know all about how to keep my old vehicles with carburetors running
good.I am staying away from those new fangled vehicles with that
so-called ''modern technology'' stuff on them.
cuhulin

 

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Spook Hill in Hainesville,Florida.(I think it is in Hainesville) I was
there one time.A sign said, park your vehicle on the line across the
road, shut the engine off, put it out of gear, watch your vehicle coast
uphill.I did that, (1971 Chevrolet van) my vehicle coasted a few feet
uphill.Of course, I know it was/is only an optical illusion.
cuhulin

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Don't buy any kind of a vehicle that didn't come factory equipped with a
two barrel (or one barrel) carburetor.
Why?

A guy who lives in a house on a street behind me, he has a nice looking
1990 Chevrolet RV van with a 350 cubic inch engine and the engine has a
throttle body fuel injection thingy, for sale, $1,100.The van has about
90,000 miles on it.

Single point injection is an extremely crude way of doing things giving
near the complexity of proper injection but with most of the disadvantages
of a carburettor. Of which there are many.

I know all about how to keep my old vehicles with carburetors running
good.I am staying away from those new fangled vehicles with that
so-called ''modern technology'' stuff on them.

New fangled? Even modern type all electronic fuel injection has been
around for 30 years or so. Mechanical injection before WW2. It's not
beyond any half competent home mechanic to learn how it works and how to
fault find. But you can be sure you'll need less of that than with a carb
or two.

 

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Because I Know So! One barrel carburetors and two barrel carburetors
can't be beat! No matter with how much y'all come up with y'alls Phoney
little excuses for sucking up to fed govt's Bull Shit!
cuhulin

 

[James Sweet]

Don't buy any kind of a vehicle that didn't come factory equipped with a
two barrel (or one barrel) carburetor.

A guy who lives in a house on a street behind me, he has a nice looking
1990 Chevrolet RV van with a 350 cubic inch engine and the engine has a
throttle body fuel injection thingy, for sale, $1,100.The van has about
90,000 miles on it.

I know all about how to keep my old vehicles with carburetors running
good.I am staying away from those new fangled vehicles with that
so-called ''modern technology'' stuff on them.
cuhulin

I hate carburetors. They're ok for lawnmowers and such, but for cars they're
sloppy imprecise Rube Goldberg-esq contraptions. On the best of days, the
fuel/air mixture will never be as precise as it will with a decent injection
system. Flooding, cold idle issues, dirty emissions, I was not sad to see
them go away.

Ask any of the guys on the Megasquirt list, after converting to injection
you immediately get a smoother running engine, more power, improved throttle
response, better gas mileage, no problems with altitude changes, it's like a
whole new car. Race cars were using injection back in the 50s, better
European cars were injected by the early 70s, American car companies were
finally dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century in the late 80s.

Injection systems are mechanically simple and electrically consist of just a
few sensors, some wiring, relays, a pump, and a control box. If you're not
comfortable working with that stuff what are you doing on an electronics
repair group?

 

[msg]

James Sweet wrote:

Injection systems are mechanically simple and electrically consist of just a
few sensors, some wiring, relays, a pump, and a control box. If you're not
comfortable working with that stuff what are you doing on an electronics
repair group?

You assume a context of the developed world with a sustained tech. base;
try maintaining modern vehicles in remote locations under extreme
conditions without benefit of spares, test jigs and proprietary
instruments. There will always be a need for simple and elegant
tech. which can be maintained with basic tools, techniques and
knowledge, not to mention the issue of EMP survivability.

Michael

 

[msg]

Canceled first version although I doubt many NNTP servers honor cancel
messages; corrected for missing attribution and line wrap.

<[email protected]> wrote in message

Injection systems are mechanically simple and electrically consist
of just a few sensors, some wiring, relays, a pump, and a control
box. If you're not comfortable working with that stuff what are
you doing on an electronics repair group?

You assume a context of the developed world with a sustained tech. base;
try maintaining modern vehicles in remote locations under extreme
conditions without benefit of spares, test jigs and proprietary
instruments. There will always be a need for simple and elegant
tech. which can be maintained with basic tools, techniques and
knowledge, not to mention the issue of EMP survivability.

Michael

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

James Sweet wrote:





You assume a context of the developed world with a sustained tech. base;
try maintaining modern vehicles in remote locations under extreme
conditions without benefit of spares, test jigs and proprietary
instruments. There will always be a need for simple and elegant
tech. which can be maintained with basic tools, techniques and
knowledge, not to mention the issue of EMP survivability.

The Cuhulin troll does live in Mississippi. He also likes to pretend
that he's a teen age girl and uses the screen name "flowersonthewater".
He's bragged about it on several newsgroups. Thank God for kill filters.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael Kennedy]

I was moving from Ohio to Central Florida in the late '80s. I was
driving a Chevy stepvan, and the gas gauge had quit. It was about 4:00
AM, and I had been up for over 30 hours, in an attempt to get to Florida
before my tag expired. I was in the hills of Kentucky, and was about to
pass a sign that said, "Next exit, 7 miles" when the engine sputtered
and died. To make a long story short, i made it to the exit, made a hard
right turn and coasted over a half mile to a gas station, and rolled to
a stop about 50 feet from the closest pump. Believe me, that entire
trip was a real test of my faith, in everything. I made it to my
destination about fifteen minutes before midnight, a couple miles north
of Eustis, on Hwy. 452.

Wow, thats a trip.. And you ended up about 20 minutes from my house.

Mike

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Wow, thats a trip.. And you ended up about 20 minutes from my house.

That was the second trip. I brought 17,000 pounds of tools, parts
and test equipment with me in thwe two trips. About 1050 miles, one
way. When I decided to move, the truck's engine was siezed from sitting
for four years. A drunk driver had run out of the road and hit my car,
rammed it into the truck, and totaled both cars. The gas tank had a
seven inch long crack, someone swiped the fron grill, and the back
bumper was missing. I got the truck running for $8, and drove it a
little over 5000 miles. The body work was about $100, a used gas tank
was $50. I mad an aluminum tube grill out of scrap for another $8, and a
back bumper for 97 cents. Uhaul wanted $750 dollars for three days, one
way.

I'm still not that far away, I'm in southern Marion County.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

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I bought my 1914 Ford T Model Runabout Roadster car (which I still have
right here) from a guy in Sioux Falls,South Dakota in November 1971.He
and his wife were moving to Minneapolis and they couldn't take the car
with them.The next morning I rented a U Haul Ford truck and the guy
helped me put my car in the U Haul truck.I drove from Sioux Falls to
Jackson non stop except to have to stop for gas for the U Haul truck.

In the last few years, I have seen five cars abondoned on the street I
live on because the cars had fuel injection, or some other kinds of new
fangeled gadgets on them.One and to barrel carburetors on cars beat
throttle body/fuel injection every time.Easy and cheap for the average
shade tree mechanic to keep them running.Try that with with your fancy
throttle bodies/fuel injection vehicles.
cuhulin