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tj

Jan 1, 1970
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I recently had IQ2 installed, and the installer put a filter on the line
because I also have Bigpond cable internet, and I was wondering why the
filter is necessary, or if it is really necessary. The filter is
labelled: Telstra HPF80S High Pass Filter 85-1000 mhz. TIA.
 
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PeterL

Jan 1, 1970
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tj said:
I recently had IQ2 installed, and the installer put a filter on the line
because I also have Bigpond cable internet, and I was wondering why the
filter is necessary, or if it is really necessary. The filter is
labelled: Telstra HPF80S High Pass Filter 85-1000 mhz. TIA.


You have a filter on there because your IQ is connected to the phone system.
That is the way it updates the 'On Demand' and also how you order your 2 free
movies per month.

If you have broadband, any appliance connected to the phone system needs a
filter on it so's it doesn't interfere with the broadband/adsl signals.

If you have 3 phones throughout the house, a phone/fax, or even a fridge that
is connected to the phone line/internet, you need filters on all of them.

I used to have a septic system that had it's own phone line (for the alarm
system), and it played hell with my broadband till I (first) disconnected the
phone line, and (second) got the septic company to put a filter on the line.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"As viscous as motor oil swirled in a swamp, redolent of burnt bell peppers
nested in by incontinent mice and a finish reminiscent of the dregs of a
stale can of Coca-Cola that someone has been using as an ashtray. Not a bad
drink, though."
Excerpt from "The Moose Turd Wine Tasting" by T. A. Nonymous
 
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Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Jan 1, 1970
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PeterL said:
You have a filter on there because your IQ is connected to the phone system.
That is the way it updates the 'On Demand' and also how you order your 2 free
movies per month.

If you have broadband, any appliance connected to the phone system needs a
filter on it so's it doesn't interfere with the broadband/adsl signals.

He said he has cable. The filter is to isolate the IQ "noise" from the audible
vocal frequencies.

--
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
 
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F Murtz

Jan 1, 1970
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He said he has cable. The filter is to isolate the IQ "noise" from the
audible vocal frequencies.
They also connect to the phone line as well as the cable
 
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tj

Jan 1, 1970
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He said he has cable. The filter is to isolate the IQ "noise" from the
audible vocal frequencies.


The filter is on the socket where the cable goes into.
 
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Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

Jan 1, 1970
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tj said:
The filter is on the socket where the cable goes into.

So its not on the phone line?

--
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
 
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who is dat

Jan 1, 1970
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PeterL said:
You have a filter on there because your IQ is connected to the phone system.
That is the way it updates the 'On Demand' and also how you order your 2 free
movies per month.

You really don't have a clue do you?

The filter the OP is referring to has nothing to do with the phone line!

The high pass RF filter is used to prevent the upstream transmissions
from cable modems below 50 MHz (there are a number of upstream channels
in that range (e.g. at 34 and 39 MHz etc).
Downstream cable modem channels are up in the 500 MHz band which cable
modems receive on.

Foxtel DVB-C transmissions are in the 600-800MHz range (in 6MHz wide
transmission channels).

The IQ2 unlike the other STB models however is particularly sensitive to
spurious noise from nearby cable modem transmitters and isn't adequtely
filtered internally. Hence why since early testing began it is official
policy to install high pass filters on the RF input to block signals
below 50MHz. The filter selected like the HFS80S specifies a low of 85
MHz but that just allows sufficient roll off to block the lower <50MHz
signals.
 
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PeterL

Jan 1, 1970
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You really don't have a clue do you?


BFD.

I gave my opinion........ you could have shown that you were some sort of
'expert' with half a brain and just given your 'expert' opinion and
ignored my post.

But no..... you have to try and big note yourself...... which just makes
you (and the other two) out to be the cyber hugging no-friend techno geeks
that you really are.


Next time, asshole, rather than assume that everyone spends their whole
life like you with their noses buried in some electronics manual, think
before you open your stupid mouth.

It *might* (and that is a very big might) just make you appear to be a
half decent human being.



[Techno babble deleted]


Get a life man.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"As viscous as motor oil swirled in a swamp, redolent of burnt bell
peppers nested in by incontinent mice and a finish reminiscent of the
dregs of a stale can of Coca-Cola that someone has been using as an
ashtray. Not a bad drink, though."
Excerpt from "The Moose Turd Wine Tasting" by T. A. Nonymous
 
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PeterL

Jan 1, 1970
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[email protected]:

Sounds like a load of shit to me!!!!!!!




Something that I am quite sure you would be perfectly able to judge from
taste and smell.


You eat shit a lot, don't you?



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"As viscous as motor oil swirled in a swamp, redolent of burnt bell peppers
nested in by incontinent mice and a finish reminiscent of the dregs of a
stale can of Coca-Cola that someone has been using as an ashtray. Not a bad
drink, though."
Excerpt from "The Moose Turd Wine Tasting" by T. A. Nonymous
 
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PeterL

Jan 1, 1970
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It's no use complaining, I'm sure he's undeterred.



Hmmmmmmmmm. second place is the first loser..... you know that, right?



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"As viscous as motor oil swirled in a swamp, redolent of burnt bell peppers
nested in by incontinent mice and a finish reminiscent of the dregs of a
stale can of Coca-Cola that someone has been using as an ashtray. Not a bad
drink, though."
Excerpt from "The Moose Turd Wine Tasting" by T. A. Nonymous
 
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tj

Jan 1, 1970
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who said:
You really don't have a clue do you?

The filter the OP is referring to has nothing to do with the phone line!

The high pass RF filter is used to prevent the upstream transmissions
from cable modems below 50 MHz (there are a number of upstream
channels in that range (e.g. at 34 and 39 MHz etc).
Downstream cable modem channels are up in the 500 MHz band which cable
modems receive on.

Foxtel DVB-C transmissions are in the 600-800MHz range (in 6MHz wide
transmission channels).

The IQ2 unlike the other STB models however is particularly sensitive
to spurious noise from nearby cable modem transmitters and isn't
adequtely filtered internally. Hence why since early testing began it
is official policy to install high pass filters on the RF input to
block signals below 50MHz. The filter selected like the HFS80S
specifies a low of 85 MHz but that just allows sufficient roll off to
block the lower <50MHz signals.

The picture on the old box was better than the IQ2 with anything other
than live transmission, like movies, sitcoms, etc., so I took the filter
off to see if it made things better but it didn't. Does anyone notice
the same thing? Using the same connections /cabling btw, and no better
using HDMI either.
 
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PeterL

Jan 1, 1970
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Your info was just completely wrong.



And as it was my first post into this group, assholes like you should have
seen that and politely pointed out the fact that I missed the one word
"cable".... but at the end of the day, my answer was *still* correct in
that the filter is on there to keep out any 'noise'.

Oh the frigging irony. If you'd thought and read the original post
properly you'd be the one to have kept your stupid mouth shut.


Oh, I see....... everything and anything in this group should be left up
to moronic assholes like you, hey?

Ever heard of the word 'Megalomania'???

That suits you and that other asshole to a 'T'.

Nothing you've ever done on Usenet has ever shown you're even a human
being, lucas, let alone even a half decent one.


ROFLMAO!!!

And now you're an 'expert' on me and my posting habits??!!

Wotta a fucking wanker you are!!

Here you go, 'expert'.
You do know that 'X' is an unknown quantity, and 'spurt' is a drip under
pressure, right?

[Techno babble deleted]

LOL. Obviously too much for you to comprehend.


BFD.

If you think that peoples lives are graded by what techno babble they can
and can't interpret, then you lead a *very* sad fucking life. I pity you.




That's the comeback of morons, and monkeys. What are you, hansen?

Don't bother answering, I haven't got any bananas for your reward.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"As viscous as motor oil swirled in a swamp, redolent of burnt bell
peppers nested in by incontinent mice and a finish reminiscent of the
dregs of a stale can of Coca-Cola that someone has been using as an
ashtray. Not a bad drink, though."
Excerpt from "The Moose Turd Wine Tasting" by T. A. Nonymous
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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PeterL wrote
And as it was my first post into this group,

Like hell it was.
assholes like you

Why are you obsessed with donkey's orifices ?
should have seen that and politely pointed out
the fact that I missed the one word "cable"....

Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag.

No surprise that it got the bums rush, right out the fucking door, onto its lard arse.
but at the end of the day, my answer was *still* correct
in that the filter is on there to keep out any 'noise'.

Wrong, as always. Its there to keep out the stuff it cant handle
thats nothing even remotely resembling anything like noise.
Oh, I see....... everything and anything in this group
should be left up to moronic assholes like you, hey?

Nope, just to those that actually have a clue.
Ever heard of the word 'Megalomania'???

Ever heard the words 'terminal fuckwit' and 'pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit artist' ?
That suits you and that other asshole to a 'T'.

Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag.
ROFLMAO!!!

Your juvenile antics down there on the floor fool absolutely no one at all !!!!
And now you're an 'expert' on me and my posting habits??!!

Completely trivial for anyone to check that using groups.google.
Wotta a fucking wanker you are!!
Here you go, 'expert'.
You do know that 'X' is an unknown quantity,
and 'spurt' is a drip under pressure, right?

Thought that up all by yourself, eh ?
[Techno babble deleted]
LOL. Obviously too much for you to comprehend.

If you think that peoples lives are graded by what techno babble they
can and can't interpret, then you lead a *very* sad fucking life. I pity you.

Bet that will see him curl up and die for sure.
That's the comeback of morons, and monkeys. What are you, hansen?
Don't bother answering, I haven't got any bananas for your reward.

Pathetic. Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
 
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PeterL

Jan 1, 1970
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PeterL wrote

Like hell it was.



Into aus.tv.pay and aus.electronics it was.

Go back to your continual trolling you pathetic little excuse of a human
being.

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"As viscous as motor oil swirled in a swamp, redolent of burnt bell peppers
nested in by incontinent mice and a finish reminiscent of the dregs of a
stale can of Coca-Cola that someone has been using as an ashtray. Not a bad
drink, though."
Excerpt from "The Moose Turd Wine Tasting" by T. A. Nonymous
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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PeterL wrote
Into aus.tv.pay and aus.electronics it was.

Pity about aus.comms fuckwit.
Go back to your continual trolling you pathetic little excuse of a human being.

Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag.

No surprise that it got the bums rush, out onto its lard arse, time after time after time.
 
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who is dat

Jan 1, 1970
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PeterL said:
And as it was my first post into this group, assholes like you should have
seen that and politely pointed out the fact that I missed the one word
"cable".... but at the end of the day, my answer was *still* correct in
that the filter is on there to keep out any 'noise'.

Still correct????

The OP clearly described a HIGH pass cable filter with specs in the 85
to 1000 MHz range that operates on the coax RF signal, whereas you
ranted on about LOW pass ADSL filters that operate on the twisted pair
POTS cabling connected to the modem port. (which actually operate on a
completely different portion of spectrum by allowing the 0-4 kHz voice
POTS frequencies to pass through and block the ADSL signals in the 25
kHz to 2.2 MHz frequency range, so it clearly wasn't the one word you
missed out on but the completely different frequency range of the filter!).

Oh, and you also incorrectly mentioned that the phone line is required
to update On Demand content. The On Demand content is sourced from 3
different push feed channels located on different sat transponders and
cable multiplexes. None of that content is sent down the phone line.
The phone line is used to send back diagnostic data and the queued box
office & PPV event orders that have been stored on the card up until the
once a month that the box attempts to call Foxtel.

Now, as much as you don't seem to like ever being wrong, it was
impossible to ignore your incorrect and clearly misleading post.

There is only one thing more dangerous than someone who doesn't know
something and that is someone who *thinks* they know something when they
clearly don't. It's made all the worse when said person has an extreme
level of arrogance to never admit they are wrong.

Oh, and all the childish name calling is totally unnecessary if you want
to have a civilised discussion.
 
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PeterL

Jan 1, 1970
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Oh, and you also incorrectly mentioned that the phone line is required
to update On Demand content. The On Demand content is sourced from 3
different push feed channels located on different sat transponders and
cable multiplexes.

The technician who installed my box *told me* that the box had to be left
on so's that it could "update the software if needed and update On Demand
content".

So...... a so called 'expert' gave me the wrong info.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a techno-geek, but if a so-called
'expert' gets it wrong, then I'd take any info given by the so called
'experts' in here with a pinch of salt.

There seems to be a lot of dribbling and techno babble without any real
solutions.

Now, as much as you don't seem to like ever being wrong,



You *ass* ume....... again.


it was
impossible to ignore your incorrect and clearly misleading post.


*Especially* if you so called 'experts' see a chance to jump on someone
who makes the tiniest mistake!!


I missed the word "cable"........ BFD, get off your high horse, build a
bridge, and get over it.


Oh, and all the childish name calling is totally unnecessary if you want
to have a civilised discussion.


Take your own advice.

As I stated previously..........
I gave my opinion........ you could have shown that you were some
sort of 'expert' with half a brain and just given your 'expert'
opinion and ignored my post.

And yet, you didn't. You saw an opportunity to taunt, and you took it.

That speaks volumes for the sort of person you are in real life.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"As viscous as motor oil swirled in a swamp, redolent of burnt bell
peppers nested in by incontinent mice and a finish reminiscent of the
dregs of a stale can of Coca-Cola that someone has been using as an
ashtray. Not a bad drink, though."
Excerpt from "The Moose Turd Wine Tasting" by T. A. Nonymous
 
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who is dat

Jan 1, 1970
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PeterL said:
The technician who installed my box *told me* that the box had to be left
on so's that it could "update the software if needed and update On Demand
content".

Yes. The BOX needs to be turned on so the tuner can receive the content
from the On Demand feed channels. The software of the box is also
updated with the software update data stream.
There is absolutely no need to have the phone line connected to get On
Demand content and software updates applied. You only need the phone
line to order box office and PPV and even then you don't need to plug it
in until you reach the spending cap that the card will store before it
refuses to accept any more requests until it can transfer it's cached
requests back to the server.
So...... a so called 'expert' gave me the wrong info.

Nope, what he told you was completely correct in leaving the box on.
It's the phone line that doesn't need to be left connected. A
significant number of installations these days are not connected to the
phone line and those customers are told that they will have to order PPV
and box office from the Foxtel internet site rather than with their
remote control.
There seems to be a lot of dribbling and techno babble without any real
solutions.

I provided the correct answer to the OP. You're the one left talking
about 'solutions' with your incorrect answers and tirade of abuse to
others here.
Take your own advice.

Huh? Unlike you, when did I resort to childish name calling?
As I stated previously..........


And yet, you didn't. You saw an opportunity to taunt, and you took it.

That speaks volumes for the sort of person you are in real life.

I didn't taunt. I corrected your clearly misleading information. Oh, and
yes I am the sort of person in real life which isn't afraid of
correcting someone who is spreading misinformation.
 
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