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Firefox 4 Mini Review, and fix.

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  1. Don McKenzie

    Don McKenzie Guest

    Firefox 4 Mini Review, and fix.

    Been reading a lot about Firefox 4 crashing computers, and having other problems. I kept getting a nag about upgrading,
    so I bit the bullet, and went ahead.

    I just successfully installed Firefox 4 on two computers without drama. A core i7 64 bit Windows 7 Pro machine, and a
    little XP N270 netbook. Initially I thought, not a lot of difference with this new browser.

    First big difference noticeable for me, was that he page tabs had jumped from the old V3 position, right to the top of
    the screen. View> Toolbars> Tabs on top, setting unchecked fixed this, and made it look much the same as the old
    version. I feel this is simply personal preference. Mozilla claim it is easier to see and fetch open Tabs from the very
    top of the screen.

    After a few hours use, I had forgotten what the old version looked like, but I knew I was still missing something very
    important. Something that I had used daily in the past.

    So I headed off to Mozilla, and checked out the old screen shots:
    http://www.oldapps.com/firefox.php?images=194, and found what it was.

    Firefox 4 History drop down window next to Forward-Back arrows is gone:
    http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/792269
    Quite a thread building there. I think Mr Mozilla better get in and fix this pretty quick.

    However a temporary fix can be grabbed and installed in seconds.
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/backforedrop/

    Firefox 4 has a wealth of features that I am yet to explore. They claim super speed, and easy sync between devices.
    http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features/
    http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/mobile/sync/

    Story at:
    http://www.godzillaseamonkey.com/firefox-4-mini-review-and-fix/

    Cheers Don...

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  2. atec77

    atec77 Guest

    I have it running on windows7 , linux /mephis and xp without fail
     
  3. Petzl

    Petzl Guest

    Probably little wrong with it. The problem is not all websites support
    it and experience tells me they never will
     
  4. atec77

    atec77 Guest

    if some windows dick code monkey builds for windows only I have no
    desire to visit his shit work
     
  5. atec77

    atec77 Guest

    If my isp told me that I would hurl abuse until they fixed it
    but then I dont use my isp email addy
     
  6. SolomonW

    SolomonW Guest

    Try this add-on memory restart 1.3
     
  7. annily

    annily Guest

    I found that pretty early on, but you can get at your history via other
    means, so it's not a big deal for me.
     
  8. Petzl

    Petzl Guest

    Who in their right mind does?
    Even a free throwaway like Gmail is better than any Austrlian email
    addy
     
  9. Petzl

    Petzl Guest

    Good to have a choice most don't
     
  10. Petzl

    Petzl Guest

    Not possible in this case, they are Government funded and run. What a
    waste providing Armidale with the NBN
     
  11. keithr

    keithr Guest

    Just right click the back button.
     
  12. Don McKenzie

    Don McKenzie Guest


    You are quite correct Keith, the right click button works fine.

    But this is what users are saying in that above thread:
    ===================================
    This is not a solution to the problem, which is stated. The drop down box is one of the most used features of the
    browser, any most used item like this needs reasonable thought before removing. An option to use the old method is a
    minimum requirement.

    Clicking and holding is slow and takes time to wait, plus for those with disabilities using very different pointing
    devices should not need to stick and hold, or use a 2nd button.

    Using the right key means I need to use a different key, and for people on laptops the or other pointing devices besides
    a proper mouse, its a hassle to need to use the 2nd button.

    The improvement is slow, requires you to use a 2nd button, and gives no improvement to the dedicated button. The new
    features of holding down or right click are fine, so long as the faster button click option remains.

    Its a fairly big mistake to take away a feature, when there is no reason. Click hold and wait....is waiting too long.

    The problem that people are continuing to tag as problem, is not fixed. Please return the functionality as was working
    before. Thanks
    =========================

    And I agree. :)

    Cheers Don...

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  13. keithr

    keithr Guest

    Personally I find no problem with it, my main problem with FF4 is that
    they have moved the reload button over to the right, and it is a long
    way to drive the trackball or touchpad.
     
  14. Don McKenzie

    Don McKenzie Guest

    :)

    Fair point, I know we get so familiar with doing it one way for so long, that it becomes awkward when we try it their
    new way. I also keep looking for reload as well as home, so they must have moved both of them.

    Cheers Don...

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  15. annily

    annily Guest

    I'm pretty sure you can rearrange the icons on the bar with FF4,
    although I've gone back to 3.6.17 for now. Anyway, what's wrong with F5?
     
  16. You can move it. Right click on the buttons bar, choose customise, and
    then while holding the left mouse button down drag the offending
    button to where you prefer it. Then click 'Done'
     
  17. Don McKenzie

    Don McKenzie Guest

    AHA!
    Great work Malcolm.
    Now I have to remember where I had the reload and home buttons before. :)

    Cheers Don...

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  18. Don McKenzie

    Don McKenzie Guest

    a quick follow up.

    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Firefox_3.6.PNG
    has a picture of FF V3.6

    Buttons left to right are:
    left, right, down, reload, stop, home, then the address box.

    Perhaps it was because I added the down button patch, but I wasn't able to place stop in the same position, but I was
    able to add it successfully between home and the address box.

    And bookmarks was disappearing over on the right hand side, so I tried shifting it left, but no go, so I then added
    another button to the left of the address box.

    So it is almost identical to V3.6 now. Well as close as one can get I thinketh.

    Cheers Don...

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  19. keithr

    keithr Guest

    Good stuff, now I have reload, home and print over on the left like I
    used to have them, and I don't mind right clicking the back button in
    the least.
     
  20. keithr

    keithr Guest

    I never had a crash with FF4 until this afternoon. I went to the Oanda
    foreign exchange web site to print off a table of exchange rates for my
    expenses on a recent trip to the US. The page came up OK, but when I
    tried to print it, FF crashed. It also crashed on page preview. Thinking
    it may be a W7 thing or a function of the work VPN/network, I tried it
    on my EEEPC under XP. Exactly the same result. I had to use IE in the
    end, that worked OK.
     
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