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theJackal

Jan 1, 1970
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Hello boys, girls, ladies and gentlemen.
I live in a developing country and my property has been invaded by
armed thugs.They also tried killing me. So I have a choice of either
sleeping with a Kalashnikov or hiring an armed thug. But I don't like
getting people in trouble so I'd like to develop electric fence. Is
anybody here smart enough to understand how to do it? I will chain up
dog at night so no danger ... I keep my goat tied also and my hen
normally sleep.
Please send good answers based on REAL Electronics and not things
like its too dangerous, get cattle protection or you can get shut up
for life.


"Go easy on the whisky"

theJackal
 
You mean the kind of fence where when the guy tries to climb it in the
movies, there's a loud "bzzzzt" noise and a gigantic shower of sparks
from nowhere near the fence, and then there's a cut to a charred corpse
wearing a flannel shirt? Those are awesome.. I always wanted one of
those but I couldn't afford the power bill.
 
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Charles Schuler

Jan 1, 1970
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You mean the kind of fence where when the guy tries to climb it in the
movies, there's a loud "bzzzzt" noise and a gigantic shower of sparks
from nowhere near the fence, and then there's a cut to a charred corpse
wearing a flannel shirt? Those are awesome.. I always wanted one of
those but I couldn't afford the power bill.

A detection fence combined with a fire direction control system could also
work. Do you smell troll here?
 
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Luhan

Jan 1, 1970
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theJackal said:
Hello boys, girls, ladies and gentlemen.
I live in a developing country and my property has been invaded by
armed thugs.They also tried killing me. So I have a choice of either
sleeping with a Kalashnikov or hiring an armed thug. But I don't like
getting people in trouble so I'd like to develop electric fence. Is
anybody here smart enough to understand how to do it? I will chain up
dog at night so no danger ... I keep my goat tied also and my hen
normally sleep.
Please send good answers based on REAL Electronics and not things
like its too dangerous, get cattle protection or you can get shut up
for life.


"Go easy on the whisky"

theJackal

Put up a sign is several local dialects:
"Izzies Snake Farm, Visitors Welcome".

Luhan
 
theJackal said:
Hello boys, girls, ladies and gentlemen.
I live in a developing country and my property has been invaded by
armed thugs.They also tried killing me. So I have a choice of either
sleeping with a Kalashnikov or hiring an armed thug. But I don't like
getting people in trouble so I'd like to develop electric fence. Is
anybody here smart enough to understand how to do it? I will chain up
dog at night so no danger ... I keep my goat tied also and my hen
normally sleep.
Please send good answers based on REAL Electronics and not things
like its too dangerous, get cattle protection or you can get shut up
for life.

The U.S. Army has a strong interest in developing stuff like this. They
don't seem to have come up with anything useful yet.

The only practical solution is to organise your own crew of armed
non-thugs. For this you will need an ideology, a bunch of people dumb
enough to fall for the ideology, and smart enough to spread it, and
enough seed money to pay for arms for them and their first generation
of converts.

There are a number of off-the-shelf ideologies available.

Cuban Communism works better than most, and the Cubans seem to be able
to find lots of well-educated and healthy volunteers to help their
ideological pals

Drug-pushing hedonism does seem to make more money, but falls short on
the armed non-thugs - the high cash-flow seems to bring out the thug in
every gun-carrier.

Religious fanaticism has had its advocates for a very long time, but
the Taliban and Franco have given this approach a bad name - choosing
an irrational ideology does leave you vulnerable to religious maniacs,
and it can make a horrilbe mess of any education system you may want to
set up.

Anarcho-syndicalism did work pretty well in Catalonia - for about six
months in 1936 - but this was based on more than thirty years of
education and organisation, which you may not find practical.
 
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Pooh Bear

Jan 1, 1970
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theJackal said:
Hello boys, girls, ladies and gentlemen.
I live in a developing country and my property has been invaded by
armed thugs.They also tried killing me. So I have a choice of either
sleeping with a Kalashnikov or hiring an armed thug. But I don't like
getting people in trouble so I'd like to develop electric fence. Is
anybody here smart enough to understand how to do it? I will chain up
dog at night so no danger ... I keep my goat tied also and my hen
normally sleep.
Please send good answers based on REAL Electronics and not things
like its too dangerous, get cattle protection or you can get shut up
for life.

Nah.

You need a *laser* fence ! The wires are a dead giveaway with electric
fences.

Graham
 
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kell

Jan 1, 1970
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sleeping with a Kalashnikov or hiring an armed thug

or sleeping with an armed thug.
Don't knock it til you've tried it!
 
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Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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Hello boys, girls, ladies and gentlemen.
I live in a developing country and my property has been invaded by
armed thugs.They also tried killing me. So I have a choice of either
sleeping with a Kalashnikov or hiring an armed thug. But I don't like
getting people in trouble so I'd like to develop electric fence. Is
anybody here smart enough to understand how to do it? I will chain up
dog at night so no danger ... I keep my goat tied also and my hen
normally sleep.
Please send good answers based on REAL Electronics and not things
like its too dangerous, get cattle protection or you can get shut up
for life.


"Go easy on the whisky"

theJackal

I once read about a plant called pain and terror. Grow a hedge of it
around your property. They say it is better than barbed wire.

--Mac
 
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theJackal

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks to all the gentlemen for their answers.
In my opinion signs around the home would just tickle their feet and
may even provoke an attack on my place.
I already thought about the thorny plants in the hedge but these
people once climbed over my metal gate. So the protection would also
have to cover that.
A laser fence is as good as having several watchdogs as its an
intruder detection system . I always know they are coming as the dogs
bark but the last time they shot the dogs.
An electrical system that could shock / immobilize them, maybe the
word would spread and their friends would look for an easier target
hoping they don't decide to come back with heavy artillery.


"Go easy on the whisky"

theJackal
 
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theJackal

Jan 1, 1970
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You mean the kind of fence where when the guy tries to climb it in the
movies, there's a loud "bzzzzt" noise and a gigantic shower of sparks
from nowhere near the fence, and then there's a cut to a charred corpse
wearing a flannel shirt? Those are awesome.. I always wanted one of
those but I couldn't afford the power bill.

Yes something similar ... Power bill? we still have those mechanical
electrical counters so guess why I love the idea.
 
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theJackal

Jan 1, 1970
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By the way I forgot to mention that my hedge is steel wired. Should
not be difficult getting a high voltage onto it. <grin>

"Go easy on the whisky"

theJackal
 
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Charles Schuler

Jan 1, 1970
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theJackal said:
By the way I forgot to mention that my hedge is steel wired. Should
not be difficult getting a high voltage onto it. <grin>

Do it if you think it is not difficult. I think you could be a troll or
have been watching too many movies.

If you are serious, perimeter detection makes more sense. After an intruder
is detected, then one must have the next step in place and it would be
presumptuous on my part to go there.
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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The U.S. Army has a strong interest in developing stuff like this. They
don't seem to have come up with anything useful yet.

The only practical solution is to organise your own crew of armed
non-thugs. For this you will need an ideology, a bunch of people dumb
enough to fall for the ideology, and smart enough to spread it, and
enough seed money to pay for arms for them and their first generation
of converts.

There are a number of off-the-shelf ideologies available.

Cuban Communism works better than most, and the Cubans seem to be able
to find lots of well-educated and healthy volunteers to help their
ideological pals

Drug-pushing hedonism does seem to make more money, but falls short on
the armed non-thugs - the high cash-flow seems to bring out the thug in
every gun-carrier.

Religious fanaticism has had its advocates for a very long time, but
the Taliban and Franco have given this approach a bad name - choosing
an irrational ideology does leave you vulnerable to religious maniacs,
and it can make a horrilbe mess of any education system you may want to
set up.

Anarcho-syndicalism did work pretty well in Catalonia - for about six
months in 1936 - but this was based on more than thirty years of
education and organisation, which you may not find practical.


Geez, where did all *that* come from?

John
 
John said:
Geez, where did all *that* come from?

If you are stuck in the middle of a lawless community, you've got very
few good options.

If you can't comand the force to enforce law in your immediate
community, your best option is to get out, but the more constructive
option is to convert your neighbourhood into a law-abiding community,
which entails setting up a political organisation.

Western-style representative democracy may be where you want to end up,
but it isn't a good starting point. Other ideologies seem to offer
better chances of surviving those difficult early eyars.
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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If you are stuck in the middle of a lawless community, you've got very
few good options.

If you can't comand the force to enforce law in your immediate
community, your best option is to get out, but the more constructive
option is to convert your neighbourhood into a law-abiding community,
which entails setting up a political organisation.

Western-style representative democracy may be where you want to end up,
but it isn't a good starting point. Other ideologies seem to offer
better chances of surviving those difficult early eyars.


Hmmm... "Emperor Sloman" does have a nice ring about it.

John
 
John said:
Hmmm... "Emperor Sloman" does have a nice ring about it.

Not my thing at all. Like any well-trained professional, with what
ought to be a saleable skill, I'd make myself scarce at the first sign
of lawless thuggery. Quite a few Germans had the good sense to do that
in the early 1930's. Do you have any plans to emigrate? Or are you
waitng until the Bush clan declare themselves to be the presidental
family? That might be leaving it too late.
 
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theJackal

Jan 1, 1970
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Not my thing at all. Like any well-trained professional, with what
ought to be a saleable skill, I'd make myself scarce at the first sign
of lawless thuggery. Quite a few Germans had the good sense to do that
in the early 1930's. Do you have any plans to emigrate? Or are you
waitng until the Bush clan declare themselves to be the presidental
family? That might be leaving it too late.

I am considering emigration though it seems a tiresome and risky
process. I'd need a work visa, support money till I get employment .
How much reserve cash is necessary? Which is the best place to
emigrate to? Europe or US? I have connections in Europe (UK, Denmark
and Italy) but no serious links in the US apart from a couple of
girls. I hear though that the employment situation in Europe is grim.
What cities in US/Europe? Should I seek political asylum? Still
digging for the best answers to these questions.


"Go easy on the whisky"

theJackal
 
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Rene Tschaggelar

Jan 1, 1970
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There are a number of off-the-shelf ideologies available.

Cuban Communism works better than most, and the Cubans seem to be able
to find lots of well-educated and healthy volunteers to help their
ideological pals

Drug-pushing hedonism does seem to make more money, but falls short on
the armed non-thugs - the high cash-flow seems to bring out the thug in
every gun-carrier.

Religious fanaticism has had its advocates for a very long time, but
the Taliban and Franco have given this approach a bad name - choosing
an irrational ideology does leave you vulnerable to religious maniacs,
and it can make a horrilbe mess of any education system you may want to
set up.

Anarcho-syndicalism did work pretty well in Catalonia - for about six
months in 1936 - but this was based on more than thirty years of
education and organisation, which you may not find practical.

Bill,
great. You forgot another one. Fight for the free
world, for democracy, free markets and the right
to get whoever installed as president to strip all
these rights from you again...

Rene
 
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Rene Tschaggelar

Jan 1, 1970
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theJackal wrote:

An electrical system that could shock / immobilize them, maybe the
word would spread and their friends would look for an easier target
hoping they don't decide to come back with heavy artillery.

You said it.
You don't have to be absolutely secure. Just a
tiny fraction more than your neighbour.

Rene
 
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