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Hey Folks,
Kinda down at the moment, our college radio station got busted by the
FCC. Here a list of the stuff that was hauled off:

NRG PLL-PRO 3 20W TRANSMITTER
NRG 220 WATT RF LINEAR AMPLIFIER
NRG PRO III STEREO CODER
NRG PRO III STEREO LIMITER COMPRESSOR
DAIWA CN-101L SWR+POWER METER
COMET CFM-95SL 5/8 WAVE ANTENNA
50 FEET OF LMR 400 COAX
KENWOOD R-1000 SW RECEIVER (my fathers old short-wave radio?)

The really weird part is that we WERE NOT transmitting at the time of
the raid. One of the agents tolds us that they traced us through a
purchase order from Broadcast-Warehouse! It's true that we bought a
150w amp from broadcastwarehouse.com a few weeks ago. How did the FCC
know about that?

Anyways, we will rebuild the station and continue to fight the globle
interests of the MEGA-MACHINE.

DEATH TO THE MEGA-MACHINE!
 
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martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
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On 14 May 2005 02:02:06 -0700, in sci.electronics.design
Hey Folks,
Kinda down at the moment, our college radio station got busted by the
FCC. Here a list of the stuff that was hauled off:

NRG PLL-PRO 3 20W TRANSMITTER
NRG 220 WATT RF LINEAR AMPLIFIER
NRG PRO III STEREO CODER
NRG PRO III STEREO LIMITER COMPRESSOR
DAIWA CN-101L SWR+POWER METER
COMET CFM-95SL 5/8 WAVE ANTENNA
50 FEET OF LMR 400 COAX
KENWOOD R-1000 SW RECEIVER (my fathers old short-wave radio?)

The really weird part is that we WERE NOT transmitting at the time of
the raid. One of the agents tolds us that they traced us through a
purchase order from Broadcast-Warehouse! It's true that we bought a
150w amp from broadcastwarehouse.com a few weeks ago. How did the FCC
know about that?

Anyways, we will rebuild the station and continue to fight the globle
interests of the MEGA-MACHINE.

DEATH TO THE MEGA-MACHINE!


didnt you have a licence?


martin

After the first death, there is no other.
(Dylan Thomas)
 
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James Meyer

Jan 1, 1970
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Anyways, we will rebuild the station and continue to fight the globle
interests of the MEGA-MACHINE.

DEATH TO THE MEGA-MACHINE!

And I hope the FCC continues to fight your pirate radio stations. BTW,
most college radio stations are legit and licenced.

Jim
 
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John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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Hey Folks,
Kinda down at the moment, our college radio station got busted by the
FCC. Here a list of the stuff that was hauled off:

NRG PLL-PRO 3 20W TRANSMITTER
NRG 220 WATT RF LINEAR AMPLIFIER
NRG PRO III STEREO CODER
NRG PRO III STEREO LIMITER COMPRESSOR
DAIWA CN-101L SWR+POWER METER
COMET CFM-95SL 5/8 WAVE ANTENNA
50 FEET OF LMR 400 COAX
KENWOOD R-1000 SW RECEIVER (my fathers old short-wave radio?)

The really weird part is that we WERE NOT transmitting at the time of
the raid. One of the agents tolds us that they traced us through a
purchase order from Broadcast-Warehouse! It's true that we bought a
150w amp from broadcastwarehouse.com a few weeks ago. How did the FCC
know about that?

---
Because they're not stupid?
---
Anyways, we will rebuild the station and continue to fight the globle
interests of the MEGA-MACHINE.

---
You don't give a shit about the global (not 'globle', dumbass)
interests of the government, you're just a bunch of short-sighted
little pricks who're miffed because your daddy took away your toys.
Rebuild and you'll just get busted again and, as far as I know, second
offenders are treated much more harshly. As they should be.
---
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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James Meyer wrote...
And I hope the FCC continues to fight your pirate radio stations.
BTW, most college radio stations are legit and licenced.

The Jan 2000 LPFM FCC initiative greatly expanded the number of
low-power FM station frequencies available by changing channel-
spacing requirements. Note, LPFM = 100 watts, 30-meter antenna.
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/lpfm/

However these station licenses are not for ordinary people.
"LPFM stations are available to noncommercial educational entities
and public safety and transportation organizations, but are not
available to individuals or for commercial operations."
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/audio/FCC-05-75A1.pdf
 
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Aubrey McIntosh, Ph.D.

Jan 1, 1970
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Anyways, we will rebuild the station and continue to fight the globle
interests of the MEGA-MACHINE.

DEATH TO THE MEGA-MACHINE!

Even in Austin, the 60s are over. Cope with it.

There are some rules that benefit you. You work on a frequency that
they give you, at the wattage they license. That keeps some other
anarchist just like you from using your frequency at high power and
drowning your message as their own expression of personal freedom. Duh.

Go fill the paperwork out. Find someone who can read, and listen
several times to what the paperwork says. Follow it, and you will be
fine. You can do whatever you want, you just have to do the paperwork
first.
 
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richard mullens

Jan 1, 1970
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Hey Folks,
Kinda down at the moment, our college radio station got busted by the
FCC. Here a list of the stuff that was hauled off:

NRG PLL-PRO 3 20W TRANSMITTER
NRG 220 WATT RF LINEAR AMPLIFIER
NRG PRO III STEREO CODER
NRG PRO III STEREO LIMITER COMPRESSOR
DAIWA CN-101L SWR+POWER METER
COMET CFM-95SL 5/8 WAVE ANTENNA
50 FEET OF LMR 400 COAX
KENWOOD R-1000 SW RECEIVER (my fathers old short-wave radio?)

The really weird part is that we WERE NOT transmitting at the time of
the raid. One of the agents tolds us that they traced us through a
purchase order from Broadcast-Warehouse! It's true that we bought a
150w amp from broadcastwarehouse.com a few weeks ago. How did the FCC
know about that?

Anyways, we will rebuild the station and continue to fight the globle
interests of the MEGA-MACHINE.

DEATH TO THE MEGA-MACHINE!

Good luck, but you will need to take precautions.

Perhaps broadcasting from two separate antennae would confuse direction finding equipment.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Good luck, but you will need to take precautions.

Perhaps broadcasting from two separate antennae would confuse direction finding equipment.

Dork! The FCC is actually a useful bureaucracy... at least when it
comes to enforcing RF standards (but not so good at establishing
"moral code"). "willfull_buck" has no right to operate at a power
level above that granted by his license, if he even has one. I, for
one, would think a little jail time is in order.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

Jan 1, 1970
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Even in Austin, the 60s are over. Cope with it.

There are some rules that benefit you. You work on a frequency that
they give you, at the wattage they license. That keeps some other
anarchist just like you from using your frequency at high power and
drowning your message as their own expression of personal freedom. Duh.

Go fill the paperwork out. Find someone who can read, and listen
several times to what the paperwork says. Follow it, and you will be
fine. You can do whatever you want, you just have to do the paperwork
first.

Yeah. You don't stop a train by standing in front of it on the tracks
playing Superman. You stand off to one side, and throw rocks at the
wheels. Eventually, it'll derail itself. >:->

Good Luck!
Rich
 
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Ben Bradley

Jan 1, 1970
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It just goes to show, you shouldn't have valuable things in the
location where a crime takes place.

So you had previously transmitted? At what frequency and power?
With what call letters? Or did you just make something up???
How long had it been since you were transmitting? Several years?
Maybe there's a statute of limitations for illegal radio transmission.
IANAL, but it looks like you ought to get one rather than complaining
on Usenet.

They have their methods, I'm sure.

And you made a Usenet post that can be taken into court to show
intention to do it again... Wow. Real smucking fart. (can I say that
on the radio?)
Dork! The FCC is actually a useful bureaucracy...

And I can imagine that sentence (with the words " ...would
confuse...") being read in court. I wouldn't help the OP with as much
as the time of day (let me change my computer clock before I post
this).
at least when it
comes to enforcing RF standards (but not so good at establishing
"moral code"). "willfull_buck" has no right to operate at a power
level above that granted by his license, if he even has one. I, for
one, would think a little jail time is in order.

Yes, at least there are clear technical standards for allowable
frequency and power output, as opposed to verbiage output.

Would it be safe to yell out "The FCC is Functioning GREAT!" over
the airwaves???

IP address of the original post through RDNS is:
user-12lmg59.cable.mindspring.com
Well, that's Earthlink, and I have no doubt they'll cough up the
customer name if the FCC chooses to investigate this post and present
a court order.
 
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Pooh Bear

Jan 1, 1970
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Ben said:
It just goes to show, you shouldn't have valuable things in the
location where a crime takes place.


So you had previously transmitted? At what frequency and power?
With what call letters? Or did you just make something up???
How long had it been since you were transmitting? Several years?
Maybe there's a statute of limitations for illegal radio transmission.
IANAL, but it looks like you ought to get one rather than complaining
on Usenet.


They have their methods, I'm sure.


And you made a Usenet post that can be taken into court to show
intention to do it again... Wow. Real smucking fart. (can I say that
on the radio?)


And I can imagine that sentence (with the words " ...would
confuse...") being read in court. I wouldn't help the OP with as much
as the time of day (let me change my computer clock before I post
this).


Yes, at least there are clear technical standards for allowable
frequency and power output, as opposed to verbiage output.

Would it be safe to yell out "The FCC is Functioning GREAT!" over
the airwaves???

IP address of the original post through RDNS is:
user-12lmg59.cable.mindspring.com
Well, that's Earthlink, and I have no doubt they'll cough up the
customer name if the FCC chooses to investigate this post and present
a court order.

EARTHLINK, INC. ERLK-TW-SANANTONIO36 (NET-69-91-64-0-1)
69.91.64.0 - 69.91.67.255

Indeed.

Graham
 
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Luhan Monat

Jan 1, 1970
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Hey Folks,
Kinda down at the moment, our college radio station got busted by the
FCC. Here a list of the stuff that was hauled off:

NRG PLL-PRO 3 20W TRANSMITTER
NRG 220 WATT RF LINEAR AMPLIFIER
NRG PRO III STEREO CODER
NRG PRO III STEREO LIMITER COMPRESSOR
DAIWA CN-101L SWR+POWER METER
COMET CFM-95SL 5/8 WAVE ANTENNA
50 FEET OF LMR 400 COAX
KENWOOD R-1000 SW RECEIVER (my fathers old short-wave radio?)

The really weird part is that we WERE NOT transmitting at the time of
the raid. One of the agents tolds us that they traced us through a
purchase order from Broadcast-Warehouse! It's true that we bought a
150w amp from broadcastwarehouse.com a few weeks ago. How did the FCC
know about that?

Anyways, we will rebuild the station and continue to fight the globle
interests of the MEGA-MACHINE.

DEATH TO THE MEGA-MACHINE!

For a while in college, we ran a bootleg FM station from our dorm room.
I magnaged to feed the signal back into the AC wiring for an antenna.

Other students would call our room phone with song requestes, and, if
they were lucky, we wouldn't know the song and try to play it.
 
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John Fields

Jan 1, 1970
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For a while in college, we ran a bootleg FM station from our dorm room.
I magnaged to feed the signal back into the AC wiring for an antenna.

Other students would call our room phone with song requestes, and, if
they were lucky, we wouldn't know the song and try to play it.
 
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Luhan Monat

Jan 1, 1970
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So, you've heard us? To quote a famous rock singer of the 60's "For
years I've suffered for my music, now its Your turn".
 
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richard mullens

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
Dork! The FCC is actually a useful bureaucracy... at least when it
comes to enforcing RF standards (but not so good at establishing
"moral code"). "willfull_buck" has no right to operate at a power
level above that granted by his license, if he even has one. I, for
one, would think a little jail time is in order.

Yes, Jail is the only answer that the US knows. Supremely inefficient, costly, inhumane - and documented by pictures from Abu
Ghraib.

Many of the commercial operators started off as pirates.
The US spectrum allocation policy is quite possibly fairly efficient - but here in the UK, the FM band is allocated in chunks to
various BBC stations. I can get 3 or 4 adjacent Radio 4 stations all at good quality on my car radio.

Anyway, this is supposed to be a technical newsgroup - but nobody picked up on my technical suggestion or suggested that there
might be constructive or destructive interference. Instead (from Mr Bradley) I get some tight arsed comments about my
suggestion being read out in court.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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So, you've heard us? To quote a famous rock singer of the 60's "For
years I've suffered for my music, now its Your turn".

The MIT dorm system had an AC-line carrier system radio station,
totally legit... call letters WMIT. Later went FM... call letters
WTBS...

"WTBS Call Letter Story

In the fall of 1978, ...was an undergraduate at MIT, spending most of
my time at WTBS the MIT FM radio station. The program director (Bob
Connolly) and I received a call one day from someone claiming to be
Ted Turner. He said he was interested in getting the call letters WTBS
for his new "Superstation" WTCG in Atlanta. He offered to fly us down
to ride his yacht (he was big in the America's Cup back then) or see a
Braves game.

Anyway, after consultation with MIT big-wigs, station folks, lawyers,
and the FCC, we decided to let him have the call letters in exchange
for a $50,000 donation to the station. He gave us $25,000 on the date
we released the letters, and $25,000 more when the FCC granted his
application to obtain them. There was a chance that between the time
we released them and he applied, someone else could have grabbed
them.... hence the split payment.

By the way, WTCG stood for Turner Communications Group.... doesn't
have quite the ring of Turner Broadcasting System, does it?"

See also... http://wmbr.mit.edu/history.html

...Jim Thompson
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Yes, Jail is the only answer that the US knows. Supremely inefficient, costly, inhumane - and documented by pictures from Abu
Ghraib.

I'd be happy to take you there, but I discern a fruitiness that
disqualifies you from any incarceration other than in a nut house.
Many of the commercial operators started off as pirates.
The US spectrum allocation policy is quite possibly fairly efficient - but here in the UK, the FM band is allocated in chunks to
various BBC stations. I can get 3 or 4 adjacent Radio 4 stations all at good quality on my car radio.

I don't know your radio system, but we have almost an excess of radio
availability here. So there is strict power management, not only for
"neighborhood" and academic stations, but day/night power allocations
for commercial operations.
Anyway, this is supposed to be a technical newsgroup - but nobody picked up on my technical suggestion or suggested that there
might be constructive or destructive interference.

"Perhaps broadcasting from two separate antennae would confuse
direction finding equipment" does not seem to me to be a "technical
suggestion", it is a suggestion to thwart the law.
Instead (from Mr Bradley) I get some tight arsed comments about my
suggestion being read out in court.

The OP was in clear violation of the law. But, for there to have been
equipment seizure, there HAD to be complaints of interference AND
ignoring a simple mailed order to knock it off. It's extraordinarily
rare for the FCC to do a raid.

Since the OP is openly belligerent, it's clear he will eventually be
fined heavily, or incarcerated. Good riddance.

...Jim Thompson
 
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richard mullens

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
I'd be happy to take you there, but I discern a fruitiness that
disqualifies you from any incarceration other than in a nut house.
;-)


I don't know your radio system, but we have almost an excess of radio
availability here. So there is strict power management, not only for
"neighborhood" and academic stations, but day/night power allocations
for commercial operations.
Seems sensible. All that I can say is that were I a pirate operator concerned not to be shut down, I'd operate in a fashion
that was least likely to cause interference with other (legit) operators.
"Perhaps broadcasting from two separate antennae would confuse
direction finding equipment" does not seem to me to be a "technical
suggestion", it is a suggestion to thwart the law.

If you want to operate in a clandestine manner, this was a technical suggestion as to how it might be accomplished. Is our
freedom now so prescribed that we may not say these things ?
The OP was in clear violation of the law. But, for there to have been
equipment seizure, there HAD to be complaints of interference AND
ignoring a simple mailed order to knock it off. It's extraordinarily
rare for the FCC to do a raid.

Interesting. I suspect that the UK laws are more draconian.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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If you want to operate in a clandestine manner, this was a technical suggestion as to how it might be accomplished. Is our
freedom now so prescribed that we may not say these things ?

"Clandestine" is only allowed at 100mW power level AND restricted
antenna length.
Interesting. I suspect that the UK laws are more draconian.

Typical FCC violation simply gets you a letter in the mail, describing
the infraction and remedies you need to take... may include, "shut it
down". It takes some REALLY belligerent responses to get a visit ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

Jan 1, 1970
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Hey Folks,
Kinda down at the moment, our college radio station got busted by the
FCC. Here a list of the stuff that was hauled off:

NRG PLL-PRO 3 20W TRANSMITTER
NRG 220 WATT RF LINEAR AMPLIFIER
NRG PRO III STEREO CODER
NRG PRO III STEREO LIMITER COMPRESSOR
DAIWA CN-101L SWR+POWER METER
COMET CFM-95SL 5/8 WAVE ANTENNA
50 FEET OF LMR 400 COAX
KENWOOD R-1000 SW RECEIVER (my fathers old short-wave radio?)

The really weird part is that we WERE NOT transmitting at the time of
the raid. One of the agents tolds us that they traced us through a
purchase order from Broadcast-Warehouse! It's true that we bought a
150w amp from broadcastwarehouse.com a few weeks ago. How did the FCC
know about that?

Anyways, we will rebuild the station and continue to fight the globle
interests of the MEGA-MACHINE.

Only if the Broadcast Warehouse will ship the new gear to a prison
address.

Why don't you either get a license or set up a streaming station on the
internet instead.
 
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