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Extremely High Voltage, Extremely Low Amperage, 1 watt?

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  1. Radium

    Radium Guest

    Hi:

    How many volts of electricity are required to gain 1 watt of power, if
    the current is only 1 electron per second?

    Yup, 1 electron per second is an extremely weak amperage.


    Thanks,

    Radium
     
  2. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al Guest

    One mole of electrons is 96,485 coulombs. Work it out, dipshit.
    One eV is 1.602177x10^(-19) joules. Work it out, dipshit.

    Work it out, dipshit. Work it out, dipshit. Work it out, dipshit.
    Work it out, dipshit. Work it out, dipshit. Work it out, dipshit.
    Work it out, dipshit. Work it out, dipshit. Work it out, dipshit.
    Work it out, dipshit.
     
  3. A coulomb is about 10 micro-moles of electrons.

    -- Richard
     
  4. 42

    Dave.
     
  5. Eric Gisse

    Eric Gisse Guest

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  6. Radium

    Radium Guest

     
  7. Guest

    xxein: I might suspect that you will intend to 'prove' some physics
    with this, but beware that a volt is a 'potential difference'. And
    therefor, the watt is a power of a particular referrence frame. Even
    1 electron/sec is subject to a time dilation in the "identical clock"
    that will measure it. Be advised.

    But on the classical scale, it is simple. 1 Ev/sec will produce 1
    val(Ev) x watts of energy per sec (in accumulative power), by
    definition. If this is stored off-line, the stored quantity is
    generally available for use in any manner you would care to use it
    (minus the variable losses). In general, a 1 watt lightbulb will
    consume (use) 1/Ev electrons/sec. If on-line you only get Ev watts/
    sec.

    But if this is a 'trick' question, it takes 1 volt's worth of energy
    to produce 1 watt of available energy (called power because it can be
    stored and used in many ways until you use it up as a quantity of the
    differential force available).

    If this seems confusing, think of water. Water will not flow if there
    is not a potential difference due to gravity (but this is not
    completely analagous).

    There is a lot more. What are you willing to accept as an explanation?
     
  8. Radium

    Radium Guest

    Well, I was wondering if high-voltage, low-amperage electricity could
    move through air much like the electricity of lightning and stun-guns.

    If so, would electronic equipment that uses such "air" electricity
    [for power, as well as processing, amplifying, attenuating, recording/
    playing-back signals] have any advantages over electronic equipment
    using today's electricity?
     
  9. The TimeLord

    The TimeLord Guest

    [ROTFLOL] Great! By the way, it wasn't the dolphins that left; it was
    the bees. [smile] Take care and thanks for the laugh.
     
  10. Eric Gisse

    Eric Gisse Guest

    [...]

    Learn scientific notation, idiot.
     
  11. The TimeLord

    The TimeLord Guest

    Whether or not electricity will move through air is dependent on more
    than just volts and amps. First the electricity has to overcome the
    work function of the interface between conductor and air. Then there
    is the probability of collision with air molecules. All this is
    usually incorporated in the concept of resistance. However, you need
    to understand that to answer a specific instance with just one
    electron and one volt is probably to oversimplify what you might be
    after to the point of absurdity.
    I don't think so. I mean there is a reason that vacuum tubes had to
    have a vacuum for them to work: probability of molecule collision
    adversely affecting function.

    Like I said, you're probably after something that shouldn't be
    oversimplified with only volts and amps.
     
  12. Radium

    Radium Guest

    OOOOOPS

    1 = v × 1/624,150,948,000,000,000,000,000,000

    1/624,150,948,000,000,000,000,000,000 =
    0.00160217652989930250013815568217322

    1 = v × 0.00160217652989930250013815568217322

    v = 1/0.00160217652989930250013815568217322 =
    624.150948000000000000000000067479

    F--k! It still doesn't make sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WTF is going on here????????????!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!

    624.150948000000000000000000067479 volts couldn't possibly be enough
    to generate 1 watt with 0.00160217652989930250013815568217322 amp.

    I am so f--------------------kin confused!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. Eric Gisse

    Eric Gisse Guest

    [...]
    _______ ____ ____
    |__ __/ __ \ / __ \
    | | | | | | | | |
    | | | | | | | | |
    | | | |__| | |__| |
    |_| \____/ \____/

    _____ _____ ______ ______ _____ _____ _ _ _ _______
    | __ \_ _| ____| ____|_ _/ ____| | | | | |__ __|
    | | | || | | |__ | |__ | || | | | | | | | |
    | | | || | | __| | __| | || | | | | | | | |
    | |__| || |_| | | | _| || |____| |__| | |____| |
    |_____/_____|_| |_| |_____\_____|\____/|______|_|

    ______ ____ _____ __ ______ _ _
    | ____/ __ \| __ \ \ \ / / __ \| | | |
    | |__ | | | | |__) | \ \_/ / | | | | | |
    | __|| | | | _ / \ /| | | | | | |
    | | | |__| | | \ \ | | | |__| | |__| |
    |_| \____/|_| \_\ |_| \____/ \____/
     

  14. WHAT A NUMBER! :-]


    Ya fuckin' cross posting RETARDS!
     
  15. mike3

    mike3 Guest

    1 electron / second is a charge of around 1.602 * 10^-19 Coulomb
    per second, or 1.602 x 10^-19 Amperes. Since the power =
    voltage * current, then the voltage = power / current, so we
    divide one watt by 1.602 x 10^-19 amp, giving 6.242 x 10^18
    volts approximate, ie. 6,242,000,000,000,000,000 volts (!)
    (approximately)
     
  16. Salmon Egg

    Salmon Egg Guest

    It is hard to believe that someone can be this incredibly stupid and be
    alive. My conclusion is this Radium radical is playing this stupid on
    purpose so that we wear out our fingers by typing.

    Bill
    -- Fermez le Bush--about two years to go.
     
  17. mike3

    mike3 Guest

    No, 1/624,150,948,000,000,000,000,000,000 =
    0.000000000000000000160217652989930250013815568217322...

    Notice all those zeroes. Also, notice how many
    places the denominator has. Perhaps you
    confused one of those commas in there
    with a decimal point, and tried to reciprocal
    624.150948000000000000000000? Different
    number, you know.
    You're off by 16 orders of magnitude.
    Of course not when you neglect 16 orders of
    magnitude.
    Neglecting 16 orders of magnitude.
    Nope, it sure ain't.
    Only because you neglected 16 orders of magnitude.
     
  18. mike3

    mike3 Guest

    That some sort of joke?

    That number is waaay too tiny.

    Got to be a joke...
     
  19. I second that, it would seem second to destroying their brains with
    narcotics, sending up the 'establishment' is another source of
    gratification. Given a few years this behaviour settles down for most pimply
    adolescents :)
     
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