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Discussion in 'Electronic Basics' started by Roddy Meatstick.............., Dec 31, 2006.

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  1. They say consult an expert before trying something dangerous. What
    expert? How did the become expert? Who was the first expert? You mean
    somebody with no experience at all did something and became expert? Then
    why can ANYBODY do ANYTHING and become expert at it without consulting
    an expert? Why should anybody need a license, anybody can train
    themselves and become expert. Or is it really a protectionist scheme to
    keep others out.
  2. Puckdropper

    Puckdropper Guest

    They're just covering their butts. If you try something they suggest
    and it goes bad, it's not their fault.

    Rich Grise will probably claim to the first expert, at least on this
    group. ;-)

  3. Don Bowey

    Don Bowey Guest

    You have a dislike of anyone trying to tell you anything, so why post this

    Just do whatever you want, and pay the price.
  4. Next time you feel sick or you are injured, try a non expert. Let us know
    how that works for you.
  5. Usually so called "experts" are the ones who pay for some certificate that
    says they are an expert or they have other people call them an expert(and
    they then call those people experts too).

    I doubt you'll find to many real experts around but just a bunch of people
    with ego's that *claim* they are experts. A true expert has no need to call
    himself an expert.

    Probably the only expert I have seen on this NG or other's involving
    electronics is Winfield Hill. There might be a few others but the rest are
    just posers that have some need to try and get other people to think they
    are smart.
  6. Much ot the time, people actually like "experts". If someone is
    certified, that means the person seeking the help doesn't have to
    bother with evaluating the information, they can just follow what
    the "expert" says and if something goes wrong, they can say "but
    I followed the expert".

    People ask questions here all the time, and they don't have
    any means of evaluating the answers. It's not that they need
    "experts' it's that they need to be less lazy and do some study
    themselves. The fact that people ask common questions here suggests
    they aren't bothering with books, which often are more focused on
    providing understanding rather than an end solution.

    And sometimes it can be really amusing. Someone asks a question,
    and since they have no background in the subject, they'll follow
    any answer that gets posted. But then when a different answer
    comes along, they'll veer off in that direction, until yet
    another answer comes to steer them off in a third direction. It's
    not that the repliers are steering them wrong, it's merely that
    the original poster can't evaluate the answers, so they have
    to take any answer literally. Unfortunately, the repliers
    often take the questions too literarally, answer the question
    rather than evaluating the question to try to determine
    what the poster is really asking.

  7. Bob Myers

    Bob Myers Guest

    An expert is someone who's tried what you're about to
    try, and not only succeeded but survived the experience....;-)

    Bob M.
  8. John  Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    People named "Meatstick" are never allowed to be experts.

  9. John Fields

    John Fields Guest

    The one who has expertise in a field in which you have no clue.
    By studying the field and experimenting in it until they became
    proficient in predicting output for a given input.
    Yes. See the answer to your question: "How did the become expert?",

    Then why can ANYBODY do ANYTHING and become expert at it without
    consulting an expert?

    You must mean 'can't', no?

    Some can, some can't. It's a question of talent and aptitude. Some
    of us are expert designers, some are expert surgeons, and some
    haven't the capacity to become expert at anything. So, it stands to
    reason that an expert surgeon would consult an expert designer for
    those needs, an expert designer would consult an expert surgeon for
    those needs, and a non-expert would have to use the services of
    various experts for anything other than the mundane.
  10. Bob Masta

    Bob Masta Guest

    The August 2006 Scientific American had an interesting article
    called "The Expert Mind", which suggests that it takes about
    10 years of total immersion in a field to become an expert,
    whether it be chess or soccer or whatever. I suspect that this
    is not really a remarkable claim, since very few people devote
    that much energy to a single field, so the few that do will be
    at the top by default.

    But it does seem to confirm that the "secret" to becoming good
    at anything is that old tried-and-true approach... practice, practice,

    Best regards,

    Bob Masta

    D A Q A R T A
    Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
    Home of DaqGen, the FREEWARE signal generator
  11. Old Mac User

    Old Mac User Guest

    "An expert is someone who knows the worst mistakes that can be made in
    his subject, and how to avoid them."

    "If you think an expert is expensive, hire an amateur and learn from
    that experience." OMU
  12. Guest

    ex means "has been" .. or once was or past ... pert means "lively,
    sprightly, in good health .. bold, forward .. skilled" ... so that an
    expert is one who has lost the innate intelligence of their childhood.

    in other words .. an ex - spurt could be said to be a "has been .. an
    unknown drip under pressure" ...
  13. Don Bowey

    Don Bowey Guest

    Another definition is: Anyone with a briefcase who is at least fifty miles
    from home.

  14. Old and irrelevant.

    It's usually someone who will tell you what you want to hear - or what you
    don't want to hear.
  15. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    Hey, I've never made any such claims.

    I once heard that you're an expert when other people say you are. :)

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