does anyone have a manual on this panel? James
sheet, i worked on a commercial building several years ago where the electricians installed an EST (and were supposedly trained) and they didn't have a freekin clue what they were doing. -- **Crash Gordon** |> does anyone have a manual on this panel? | | Yes. Most of the guys that went to school for a week or so to learn EST | programming. EST panels are probably the last type of FACP that one would | want to fat finger. Find someone that really knows EST and let them do any | necessary programming. | https://www.est.net/Training/restricted/QuickStart_Flash/QSOperCutSht.pdf | If you haven't been trained on it, don't screw with it. I bet even the king | of DIY (Bass) would agree on that. | | | > does anyone have a manual on this panel? | > | > James | |
That's because they took the Bass Home Study Course (c/w a complimentary two hour telephone seminar and a copy of the Sentrol Application Handbook). The informative CD was $29.99 (reduced) if you purchased the product from his online store.
and a set of Ginsu knives? -- **Crash Gordon** | Crash Gordon wrote: | > sheet, i worked on a commercial building several years ago where the | > electricians installed an EST (and were supposedly trained) and they didn't | > have a freekin clue what they were doing. | > | | | That's because they took the Bass Home Study Course (c/w a complimentary | two hour telephone seminar and a copy of the Sentrol Application | Handbook). The informative CD was $29.99 (reduced) if you purchased the | product from his online store.
Wrong website. That's Rojas. Send him five panels to unlock and he'll send them back with a complimentary pair of Ginsu wire strippers and the dry-wall saw.
I know what you mean. I'll put 'em in and terminate 'em, but I'll leave the programming to the local GE guys. The only exception to that rule (in the EST line) is FireShield (which anyone can field program quite easily). Mircom has a new line of panels that look exactly like FireShield. Cheaper too. We have a few of both in the field so I'll be able to relate any problems we encounter as time goes on. The one drawback with the GE lines have already been mentioned. Replacement parts *are* expensive.
Not really... It's a means to an end. On the one hand it increases the level of protection to the end user... on the other... it locks in the customer. What really sucks is that the customer usually doesn't have a say in the final decision. "Low man" wins on most tendered projects. There are a few exceptions, but they are *few*. I know the Canadian Government used to positively *love* Secutron stuff. And BC Housing seems to have this "thing" for Siemens/Pyrotronics (on new construction and upgrades).
We just ripped one out today anyone want to buy it? Three years old. -- **Crash Gordon** | does anyone have a manual on this panel? | | James
It's worse than that in Canada. GE technicians are the only ones that can program the panels. Some AHJ's insist that they're also the only ones that can verify them as well, however others take ULC/CAN-537 (Verification Standard) a whole lot more literally and you have to have an *independent* do that part. I know GE screams "blue murder" when that happens, but just think about it... If they're *programming* the system, and then verifying it, it sort of defeats the purpose of the standard which states you *can't* verify your own work. Ah well... fun and games.
Aside from what others mentioned...we're not sure - displays a ground fault trouble all the time, no matter what we do. But, it's pretty clean and has 4 expansion boards. The building was remodeled 3 years ago by what we can tell from the fire inspection tag and that's all I remember right now. It was a fairly clean install and system was working ok except for the ground fault and it was "time" for a complete remodel of the system anyway. -- **Crash Gordon** | Crash Gordon wrote: | > We just ripped one out today anyone want to buy it? | > Three years old. | > | > | > | whats wrong with it?