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  1. Guest

    Dealers Required RUST STOP Device.
    Dear Sir,

    The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in
    the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a
    protective electron field within the metal fabric of the vehicle. This
    protective field disrupts the normal rusting process by generating
    readily available free electrons, which in the rusting process are
    taken, leaving the steel intact.


    No Extra Pads.
    No Extra Wiring.
    With digital Display for Showing the Battery Voltages.
    Bottom Side of the Device is working itself as a strong Anodic Pad.

    Installation very easy just Connect the battery terminals and fix the
    ECC device at suitable place.

    Mr. Jamil Ahmed.
    Export Manager
    Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44
     
  2. clanker

    clanker Guest

    I have got a chook and a rabbit !
     
  3. ian field

    ian field Guest

    Snake oil! - just rivet a strip of zinc on somewhere to act as a sacrificial
    electrode.
     
  4. Franc Zabkar

    Franc Zabkar Guest

    Has anyone ever seen any rust prevention device in a domestic hot
    water system other than a magnesium anode?

    - Franc Zabkar
     
  5. Tom

    Tom Guest

    Isn't it funny to shorten "mobile" to "mobil.", same number of characters.
     
  6. swanny

    swanny Guest

    Sounds like a fancy description of a battery.
     
  7. clanker

    clanker Guest

    Well, the single dot is a Morse Code 'e' !
     
  8. K Ludger

    K Ludger Guest


    I strongly suspect Mr Ahmed may have already have a camel.
     
  9. K Ludger

    K Ludger Guest


    Sort of OT, AFAIK outboard motors use a zinc anode.

    How pue is the HWS magnesium anode?
     
  10. clanker

    clanker Guest

    In both the water heater and the outboard case the cathodic protection
    has a circuit return through the water.

    This car 'electronic juju' has no return path - except via the giga-ohms
    air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich
    quick" masturbation exercise.

    The OP might scam some idjits at eBay like his mates do with '12 Volt
    electric superchargers', and 'combustion-ehnancing swirl plates' which
    claim a 30% decrease in fuel consumption...the sellers only need a few
    fools a day to survive quite nicely.

    "Sophisticated electronics" includes some coloured wire and a mounting
    screw.

    I have a bridge for sale !
     
  11. Franc Zabkar

    Franc Zabkar Guest

    If there's no return path, ie no water, then the car won't rust. ;-)

    - Franc Zabkar
     
  12. Clint Sharp

    Clint Sharp Guest

    I can't speak for the OP's devices but that sort of technology does
    work, they're used successfully on quite a lot of buildings put up in
    the last 10-15 years. I interviewed (and got the job but turned it down
    later) for a company that built them based around PSoC chips.

    Quite clever devices, they had a way of measuring and calculating the
    current needed to keep the steelwork safe so it could adjust
    automatically, logging the changes in EEPROM that could be downloaded
    via a serial link.
     
  13. Andy Wood

    Andy Wood Guest

    .. . .
    I have never seen one of those here, but I am certainly aware of their
    popularity in the UK. For years I have seen Magenta Electronics
    advertising a kit for one. This is not your garden variety 555 one
    either, no sir, this is a high power microcontroller-based one. Like
    you say, they are careful not to make great claims about it, only that
    it *may* help reduce scale formation.

    http://tinyurl.com/5gg5lw

    I would not be surprised if that kit is based on a project published
    in Everyday Practical Electronics - that magazine occasionally
    publishes projects that may, let us say, be based on
    less-than-mainstream science.


    Andy Wood
     
  14. ian field

    ian field Guest

    At a time I was working on a building site they were routinely installing
    "calcium modifiers" to every new apartment.

    These were brazed copper capsules with an integral copper pipe through the
    middle. The capsule contained a stack of ferrite ring magnets, not unlike
    the one's used in oven magnetrons.
     
  15. Ross Herbert

    Ross Herbert Guest

    :
    ::>K Ludger wrote:
    :>> :>>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:13:36 -0000, "ian field"
    :
    :- snip -
    :>
    :> This car 'electronic juju' has no return path - except via the giga-ohms
    :> air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich
    :> quick" masturbation exercise.
    :>
    :> The OP might scam some idjits at eBay like his mates do with '12 Volt
    :> electric superchargers', and 'combustion-ehnancing swirl plates' which
    :> claim a 30% decrease in fuel consumption...the sellers only need a few
    :> fools a day to survive quite nicely.
    :>
    :> "Sophisticated electronics" includes some coloured wire and a mounting
    :> screw.
    :>
    :> I have a bridge for sale !
    :
    :
    :Do you have those 'water conditioners' in your neck of the woods that are
    :claimed to work 'by altering the crystallisation behaviour of Calcium and
    :Magnesium ions' that would otherwise scale-up your pipes and boiler? Things
    :like http://www.freescale.co.uk/ and http://www.littleplumber.com/.
    :
    :Some of them have a pair of open-ended wires emanating from a box of
    :'electronics' that are meant to be wrapped around a water pipe - even a
    :copper one. A 'consumers' guide' to these things
    :(http://www.britishwater.co.uk/Document/Download.aspx?uid=ee36c54e-925e-4b64-b732-b7b13aa6a638)
    :says: 'It is acknowledged that in some circumstances conditioners do not
    :work or are not as effective as expected. It is therefore important that, as
    :with all domestic products, the type of conditioner that is purchased comes
    :with a manufacturer's performance-linked money-back guarantee' ... but, of
    :course, they don't and the documentation that comes with these things
    :doesn't actually say anything that can be tested.
    :
    :Where I used to work, we acquired a wall-mounted water boiler for making
    :cups of tea (!) which used to scale up badly so one of these things was
    :fitted by the local 'handymen'. The boiler scaled up just as badly. Later
    :we went back to using a kettle (!!) and opened up the case of the 'water
    :conditioner' to find little more than a couple of 555s.
    :
    :Chris
    :


    Hydrosmart is one such device claimed to remove scale etc as water flows through
    the pipes - even at high flow rates.
    http://www.hydrosmart.com.au/

    Here is a good reference site for water treatment scams and pseudo
    science/quackery
    http://www.chem1.com/CQ/magscams.html
     
  16. Unless the water molecule is on the grain boundaries of the metal.
     
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