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Electronic monitoring, home confinement!

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LJ

Jan 1, 1970
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First off let me say "I am NOT looking for a way to beat the machine!"
I live in VERY rural West(by God!)Virginia. I have to wear one of these
things for 6 months as a result of a misd. assault conviction involving
defending myself in a bar-fight... That said, I don't need remarks
about my poor choice of places to spend my recreational time... Now to
the point of my post. The LEO that is the "administrator" of the
electronic monitoring home confinement program in my county is at best
a high school grad! His inability to explain, or even READ, the
regulations of the program has convinced me of his ignorance. I asked
him the same questions I am asking here. He was unable or unwilling to
answer them. I simply need to know the limits of my monitoring
device?(BI 9000) What do the lights on the front of the base unit
signify? I surmise the meaning of the "power" light to mean the unit's
power is on! I am guessing that the "telephone" light goes on when the
unit is being called or making a call, however I have yet to see the
"telephone" light on! Now to my most important query. The "range" light
is on at all times and is amber in color... What does this signify? Can
this unit be configured by the "administrator" for different range
settings? I live in a rural setting. I simply want to be able to
retrieve my mail and feed my dog without setting off the device. I
would like to ask the Court for a greater range of movement and at
least know what I'm talking about when I make the request... Thanks!

LJ
 
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CWatters

Jan 1, 1970
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LJ said:
First off let me say "I am NOT looking for a way to beat the machine!"
I live in VERY rural West(by God!)Virginia. I have to wear one of these
things for 6 months as a result of a misd. assault conviction involving
defending myself in a bar-fight... That said, I don't need remarks
about my poor choice of places to spend my recreational time... Now to
the point of my post. The LEO that is the "administrator" of the
electronic monitoring home confinement program in my county is at best
a high school grad! His inability to explain, or even READ, the
regulations of the program has convinced me of his ignorance. I asked
him the same questions I am asking here. He was unable or unwilling to
answer them. I simply need to know the limits of my monitoring
device?(BI 9000)

Looks like the range is specifiable...
http://www.bi.com/content.php?section=products&page=products&detail=bi_9000
 
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LJ

Jan 1, 1970
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Yes, I've been to their site. Thanks for looking it up. But I wonder,
"specified" by whom? If It can be specified by the "administrator" or
is it something done at the factory? It would matter in asking the
court, r/e the convenience, to them, of re-configuring the unit...
These people are less likely to address my request if it involved
sending the unit back to the factory, more likely to allow me more
range if it is something that can be done easily! Keep in mind that the
officials I'm dealing with answer most inquirys with a "Yep!", "Nope!",
"Mite!", "Huh?" or "Duh!"

Thanks for your reply.
LJ
 
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Undisclosed Recipient

Jan 1, 1970
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LJ said:
First off let me say "I am NOT looking for a way to beat the machine!"

Understood. But I think we may be barking up the wrong tree, seeking a
technological solution to a policy problem.

Sounds like your mailbox is in bounds, according to the terms of your
confinement* so just go ahead and fetch your mail; you'll learn soon
enough whether an alarm gets sent. In any case, you'll be in your house
when the police arrive, right?

*If the mailbox is out of bounds, then you would be looking for a way to
beat the machine, so based on what you said, it must be in bounds.
 
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LJ

Jan 1, 1970
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Thank you John. But if I were to present that sort of ultimatum to them
they would simply get their "doe-in-the-headlight" look and pack me off
to the CJ... Which if I were younger and had someone to look after my
place I'd have gone to in the first place. But again thanks! If the
"good-ol'-boy" that looks after this comes this way I'll DO that! But
it's way too much to have him come out at my request...
Thanks!
LJ
 
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LJ

Jan 1, 1970
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Point is I don't know if my mailbox is out of bounds or not. It IS out
on the paved road, probably all of at least 100 yards from my front
porch! As far as "terms of your
confinement" as you put it, read back and you will see that it is my
contention that I have not been sufficiently informed of them. I want
only to go back to Court where there is someone that can READ to ask
for clarification and an extended limit, if that is indeed possible.

LJ
 
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Undisclosed Recipient

Jan 1, 1970
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LJ said:
Point is I don't know if my mailbox is out of bounds or not.
read back and you will see that it is my
contention that I have not been sufficiently informed of them.

Yes, that's an untenable situation. I should think that "may I go to
the mailbox" should be within the grasp of your local authorities.
 
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LJ

Jan 1, 1970
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Let me rephrase my last post for you St. John. 'ONE' of my points is
that I've not been sufficiently informed of the terms of my program,
particular to the range limitation. The other issue is as to whether or
not the range can be increased. I can only believe that if the range
CAN be increased, then the unique circumstances pertaining to my rural
environs would justify it. I want to know something of what I speak
when addressing the Court. On another note, you can dispense with your
comments as you seem to be of the same mindset/intellect as the
"Bubbas" that run the operation here. You sound like a LEO and I would
not expect a non-partisan, objective view from you.
 
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CWatters

Jan 1, 1970
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LJ said:
Let me rephrase my last post for you St. John. 'ONE' of my points is
that I've not been sufficiently informed of the terms of my program,
particular to the range limitation.

That sounds very unfair to me.
The other issue is as to whether or
not the range can be increased. I can only believe that if the range
CAN be increased, then the unique circumstances pertaining to my rural
environs would justify it.

Agreed.

The problem is that in pracice all sorts of things effect the range of radio
communications. It's a problem for the makers because in order to guarantee
say 300ft in all conditions some people will find it works over a much
longer range. Take CB radio... With the right conditions you can either get
10 mile range or half way round the planet. Those conditions are out of the
control of the manufacturer. Things like the height of the base station
above ground will effect the range as might simply watering the lawn or
atmospheric conditions at different times of the day.
I want to know something of what I speak when addressing the Court.

Best ask the court to specify a distance in feet. Tell them how far it is to
the post box or better still give them a site plan and ask them to mark the
boundary. Then you might have grounds to complain if it doesn't allow you
that range.
 
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Undisclosed Recipient

Jan 1, 1970
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LJ said:
On another note, you can dispense with your
comments as you seem to be of the same mindset/intellect as the
"Bubbas" that run the operation here. You sound like a LEO and I would
not expect a non-partisan, objective view from you.

Just one bit of parting advice: have a lawyer represent you in dealings
with the court/authorities. What you're about to get stuck to like Tar
Baby is a policy problem, not an electronics puzzle. Resolve the policy
issue, and the technology will follow. The expression, "wag the dog"
comes to mind.
 
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LJ

Jan 1, 1970
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OK! So I see now that the "75-300" foot range is the "range of the
range" if I understand correctly? I was thinking that the unit could be
set for a specific distance 'within' THAT range... DUH! Am I on the
right track here?

LJ
 
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joecoin

Jan 1, 1970
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Point taken.
LJ

You certainly should consult an attorney before you go get he mail.
Maybe call the post office and have them eiother hold the mail until
your time is serverd, or bring it to your house (yeah, right).

Sell the dog.

What were drinking when you got into the fight?


Joe
 
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LJ

Jan 1, 1970
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I was eating homemade roast beef & mashed spuds & drinkin' a Beer. I
went there often, being single and the bartender being a great cook!
Until some "Bubba" decided to **** with the "Hippie dude!" That'll
teach him to bring a bat to a gunfight! I got off real EZ, but all
agreed that it was self defence... I bought a George Foreman Grill and
keep my brew in the fridge!

LJ
 
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CWatters

Jan 1, 1970
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LJ said:
OK! So I see now that the "75-300" foot range is the "range of the
range" if I understand correctly? I was thinking that the unit could be
set for a specific distance 'within' THAT range... DUH! Am I on the
right track here?

Yes. Whoever sets up the equipment can adjust the range so that it restricts
you to as little as 75 foot or as much as 300ft. However as I said before
its not like setting up an invisible curtain - it's not precise. Ever
listened to a radio station in your car and driven out of town - it fades in
and out for many miles. It's hard to define a point at which you are "out of
range".
 
L

LJ

Jan 1, 1970
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Oh Shit! You HAD to there? As if I'm not stressed enough! Now I'm
lookin' for priming charges! LOL!!!
 
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Ross Herbert

Jan 1, 1970
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First off let me say "I am NOT looking for a way to beat the machine!"
I live in VERY rural West(by God!)Virginia. I have to wear one of these
things for 6 months as a result of a misd. assault conviction involving
defending myself in a bar-fight... That said, I don't need remarks
about my poor choice of places to spend my recreational time... Now to
the point of my post. The LEO that is the "administrator" of the
electronic monitoring home confinement program in my county is at best
a high school grad! His inability to explain, or even READ, the
regulations of the program has convinced me of his ignorance. I asked
him the same questions I am asking here. He was unable or unwilling to
answer them. I simply need to know the limits of my monitoring
device?(BI 9000) What do the lights on the front of the base unit
signify? I surmise the meaning of the "power" light to mean the unit's
power is on! I am guessing that the "telephone" light goes on when the
unit is being called or making a call, however I have yet to see the
"telephone" light on! Now to my most important query. The "range" light
is on at all times and is amber in color... What does this signify? Can
this unit be configured by the "administrator" for different range
settings? I live in a rural setting. I simply want to be able to
retrieve my mail and feed my dog without setting off the device. I
would like to ask the Court for a greater range of movement and at
least know what I'm talking about when I make the request... Thanks!

LJ


Were there any curfew conditions imposed on your sentence?

Depending upon the sentence, some people only have to remain indoors
during defined hours, such as between the hours of 6.00pm - 6.00 am
but they are allowed to leave home in order to attend work. If you do
have a job then you must be allowed to go out of range during daylight
hours.
 
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