Duct tape to the rescue in space, again

[Frithiof Andreas Jensen]

Despite the apparently dysfunctional appearance of this procedure, it
does work (somehow). The company has been around for about 37 years
and is doing fairly well these days as a division of a larger
conglomerate. However, they've gone through several major changes in
management and ownership, which hopefully have inspired them to change
their ways.

In my experience, they have not changed, merely evolved in
dysfunctionalness. That's what "changes in manglement and ownership" say:
That department is an unflushable turd that attracts most of the new
management's attention so everyone thinks it's important enough to keep
alive. Then when the truth finally dawns, it is (yet again) spun off to a
competitor in the hope that it will poison them.

The only way to be sure of cleansing a dysfunctional organisation is to nuke
it from orbit ;-)

 

[Jan Panteltje]

???? You have some problem with my knowledge of analog TV????

Where you not the author of that pdf that says that positive modulation is impossible in TV?

While I certainly am not an expert, as I only spent about three years
helping maintain and improve the campus distribution network at UCSB, I
do know a thing or two about it. I also designed CCT systems for a few
years after that.

I take it you don't know much about Hillary Duff either.

I dunno, but this was about Hillary Clintion as was clear in my view from the context.

Having actors in polituics is more Republican style (Reagan, and the King Of California,
that I recorded a movie from last night.

She is a
charming young woman of some talent, with modest taste and habits. She
isn't a prima dona superstar like some of her contemporaries, but she
doesn't really pretend to be, either. Her movies are entertaining, if
occasionally silly, and I usually will watch one on TV if it comes on.

Charlie

Tonight is Laura Croft Raider of some tomb, I have programmed the timer.
Would she make a good rep president LOL LOL LOL, SURE better then GWBush.

 

[Charlie Edmondson]

Where you not the author of that pdf that says that positive modulation is impossible in TV?




I dunno, but this was about Hillary Clintion as was clear in my view from the context.

Having actors in polituics is more Republican style (Reagan, and the King Of California,
that I recorded a movie from last night.





Tonight is Laura Croft Raider of some tomb, I have programmed the timer.
Would she make a good rep president LOL LOL LOL, SURE better then GWBush.

No, sorry, don't know of the PDF that you are referring to.

And, evidently, you are somewhat humor impaired. Someone said that they
liked Hillary, and I made the humorous comment that they must be
refering to Hillary Duff, as the other referent you preffered is not
really that likable... ;-)

Also, Angelina would be a TERRIBLE president, all emotion, no logic.

Charlie

 

[Jan Panteltje]

No, sorry, don't know of the PDF that you are referring to.

OK, I used google to look it up, it was Randy Yates it seems, not you.
It confused me because you both used an ieee.org email address.
Sorry about that, my apologies.

And, evidently, you are somewhat humor impaired.

Some people have really flipped out on my humor.
It needs to be noted that in good humor there is often some truth.

Someone said that they
liked Hillary, and I made the humorous comment that they must be
refering to Hillary Duff, as the other referent you preffered is not
really that likable... ;-)

Now you are doing it again.
That is not funny, as it is not true

Also, Angelina would be a TERRIBLE president, all emotion, no logic.

Well, the current one has no emotion, no logic, no heart, so it would
be a huge improvement.

 

[Richard The Dreaded Libertarian]

On a sunny day (Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:04:21 -0700) it happened Charlie Edmondson


OK, I used google to look it up, it was Randy Yates it seems, not you.
It confused me because you both used an ieee.org email address.
Sorry about that, my apologies.

Some people have really flipped out on my humor.
It needs to be noted that in good humor there is often some truth.


Now you are doing it again.
That is not funny, as it is not true


Well, the current one has no emotion, no logic, no heart, so it would
be a huge improvement.

<QOTD>
PLUNDERER'S THEME
(to Supercalifragilisticexpialidocius)

Pillage, rape, and loot and burn, but all in moderation.
If you do the things we say, then you'll soon rule the nation.
Kill your foes and enemies and then kill your relations.
Pillage, rape, and loot and burn, but all in moderation.
</QOTD>

Remind you of anyone? >:->

Cheers!
Rich

 

[John Larkin]

Having actors in polituics is more Republican style (Reagan, and the King Of California,
that I recorded a movie from last night.

Good point. Actors do seem to make better Presidents than lawyers. Or
peanut farmers.

John

 

[Jan Panteltje]

Good point. Actors do seem to make better Presidents than lawyers. Or
peanut farmers.

John

I think Carter was OK, and his recent remarks about the current
president, a failed oil company CEO, are right on.

I sort of like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Reagan was not bad either.
I noticed in Bushman's (the current) inauguration, Jimmy was trying to
go up to him, and shake hands to congratulate him, but the
Bushman evaded him, after making the Hitler salute to the masses.
What a sucker that Saudi marionet is.
As to his credit: He did put oil up to 90$ for his Saudi masters.
As not to his credit: it is partly because the dollar is now worth less
then the cost of making it, I have heard they soon will print it on tissue paper,
that, as you know, that dissolves in water really fast.
Anyways rolls of dollars ...
grin

 

[JosephKK]

Charlie Edmondson [email protected] posted to sci.electronics.design:

Ah, I see, you are confusing government with elections, which is the
topic at hand. Corporations really do not influence elections
(unless you are into conspiracy theories about fixed voting
machines, media
smear compaigns, etc.) because they win either way. They really
couldn't care less whether it is corporate sponsored Bush or
corporate
sponsored Kerry in the Whitehouse. Their people are on top either
way.

Charlie

No, Charlie. It is more nearly like a proxy fight between boards of
different corporations. It has been a running joke for over 150
years that various legislative bodies were the "The best that money
could buy".

 

[John Larkin]

I think Carter was OK, and his recent remarks about the current
president, a failed oil company CEO, are right on.

Carter was a disaster; he convinced some people, specifically some
radical islamists, that the US was gutless. There have been
consequences.

I was in Moscow the day that Reagan won his first presidential
election. All the Americans in the street outside the embassy were
cheering, and the Russians thought we were nuts; they don't do stuff
like that in public. We were tossing frisbees around, ditto.

Minutes after the news hit, the embassy had framed portraits of RR
posted on the wall outside.

I sort of like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Reagan was not bad either.
I noticed in Bushman's (the current) inauguration, Jimmy was trying to
go up to him, and shake hands to congratulate him, but the
Bushman evaded him, after making the Hitler salute to the masses.
What a sucker that Saudi marionet is.
As to his credit: He did put oil up to 90$ for his Saudi masters.
As not to his credit: it is partly because the dollar is now worth less
then the cost of making it, I have heard they soon will print it on tissue paper,
that, as you know, that dissolves in water really fast.
Anyways rolls of dollars ...
grin

The dollar is still worth a dollar here. Prices haven't gone up,
because we don't buy much from Europe. The low dollar will kill
Airbus, if they weren't killing themselves already.

Oh, that reminds me, we should increase our European pricing again.

John

 

[Jim Thompson]

I think Carter was OK, and his recent remarks about the current
president, a failed oil company CEO, are right on.

I sort of like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Reagan was not bad either.
I noticed in Bushman's (the current) inauguration, Jimmy was trying to
go up to him, and shake hands to congratulate him, but the
Bushman evaded him, after making the Hitler salute to the masses.
What a sucker that Saudi marionet is.
As to his credit: He did put oil up to 90$ for his Saudi masters.
As not to his credit: it is partly because the dollar is now worth less
then the cost of making it, I have heard they soon will print it on tissue paper,
that, as you know, that dissolves in water really fast.
Anyways rolls of dollars ...
grin

The level to which you have been brain-washed is astonishing.

...Jim Thompson

 

[Jan Panteltje]

I was in Moscow the day that Reagan won his first presidential
election. All the Americans in the street outside the embassy were
cheering, and the Russians thought we were nuts; they don't do stuff
like that in public. We were tossing frisbees around, ditto.

Minutes after the news hit, the embassy had framed portraits of RR
posted on the wall outside.

Yes, RR portraits all over the world, I used to stay up late to listen
to him speak (time difference).

The dollar is still worth a dollar here. Prices haven't gone up,
because we don't buy much from Europe. The low dollar will kill
Airbus, if they weren't killing themselves already.

Well, oil prices, I am sure you fill up your car, but let's say 'the
cost of energy', and all products that require a lot of energy to make,
will, and have, gone up.
Bush bought the masses with a tax cut, but they payed X times that much
anytime they filled up the car.
Bush, with his oil price upping strategy, made of course billions for
The Netherlands too (we export natural gas, and the price is locked
to the oil price in the contracts), and that bought Russia too.
And the UK (North Sea oil).
Putin must have thought that Bush will be gone next year, so why
longer support him, I EXPECT OIL PRICES TO DROP A LOT AFTER BUSHMAN IS
REPLACED.
Oil prices have been cyclic:
http://www.wtrg.com/oil_graphs/oilprice1947.gif
Now there is an opportunity to buy some puts.
As to Airbus, some of their people are under investigation for insider
trading.... But the first big one (A380) has been delivered now.
And Boeing has setbacks of 6 month now (Dreamliner).. So if Boeing turns
out to have more problems, the balance may change a lot.
Airbus has a good line of products, I am not worried about them.
US does not look so good, housing market collapsed, no credit,
recent warning by FED that hard times will stay a while...

China, Japan, are withdrawing money in the billions, faster then
ever before, for the first time more money (=dollars) being sold then
being bought by them.
This makes sense as they want no longer to finance the US debt, rather invest
in say Euros.
So expect some hard times coming.

Oh, that reminds me, we should increase our European pricing again.

John

Have you patented your designs? Copy cat we can do too

 

[John Larkin]

Yes, RR portraits all over the world, I used to stay up late to listen
to him speak (time difference).


Well, oil prices, I am sure you fill up your car, but let's say 'the
cost of energy', and all products that require a lot of energy to make,
will, and have, gone up.
Bush bought the masses with a tax cut, but they payed X times that much
anytime they filled up the car.

Is the price of gas correllated to the tax cut?

Bush, with his oil price upping strategy, made of course billions for
The Netherlands too (we export natural gas, and the price is locked
to the oil price in the contracts), and that bought Russia too.
And the UK (North Sea oil).
Putin must have thought that Bush will be gone next year, so why
longer support him, I EXPECT OIL PRICES TO DROP A LOT AFTER BUSHMAN IS
REPLACED.
Oil prices have been cyclic:
http://www.wtrg.com/oil_graphs/oilprice1947.gif

Experience is the worst teacher. China, India, Pakistan, Eastern
Europe, Russia... all are going middle-class, and they all want cars.
And all those cars want gas.

Driving to work, I saw a guy changing the gas price signs. Regular is
up to $3.07 a gallon. So now it costs me 60 cents to drive to work. My
morning latte costs $2.50.

Now there is an opportunity to buy some puts.
As to Airbus, some of their people are under investigation for insider
trading.... But the first big one (A380) has been delivered now.
And Boeing has setbacks of 6 month now (Dreamliner).. So if Boeing turns
out to have more problems, the balance may change a lot.
Airbus has a good line of products, I am not worried about them.
US does not look so good, housing market collapsed, no credit,
recent warning by FED that hard times will stay a while...

The housing thing was just another speculative bubble. Those things
happen. But "hard times" is an exaggeration.

China, Japan, are withdrawing money in the billions, faster then
ever before, for the first time more money (=dollars) being sold then
being bought by them.

They can't "withdraw money." All they can do is sell bonds.

This makes sense as they want no longer to finance the US debt, rather invest
in say Euros.

What they were financing is Chinese imports. If they want to sell the
bonds for less than they paid for them, we do even better.

So expect some hard times coming.

Wishful thinking?

Have you patented your designs? Copy cat we can do too

I just keep engineering better stuff, and keep ahead of people who
can't. Patents aren't worth the trouble.

At least one european company has copied my stuff (and my company
style, and my logo) but they did it badly.

John

 

[TheM]

I just keep engineering better stuff, and keep ahead of people who
can't. Patents aren't worth the trouble.

At least one european company has copied my stuff (and my company
style, and my logo) but they did it badly.

John

Which one?

M

 

[[email protected]]

Is the price of gas correllated to the tax cut?


Experience is the worst teacher. China, India, Pakistan, Eastern
Europe, Russia... all are going middle-class, and they all want cars.
And all those cars want gas.

Driving to work, I saw a guy changing the gas price signs. Regular is
up to $3.07 a gallon. So now it costs me 60 cents to drive to work. My
morning latte costs $2.50.


The housing thing was just another speculative bubble. Those things
happen. But "hard times" is an exaggeration.




They can't "withdraw money." All they can do is sell bonds.


What they were financing is Chinese imports. If they want to sell the
bonds for less than they paid for them, we do even better.


Wishful thinking?





I just keep engineering better stuff, and keep ahead of people who
can't. Patents aren't worth the trouble.

At least one european company has copied my stuff (and my company
style, and my logo) but they did it badly.

John

Hey, I did not see your posting on my normal news server, but I did
see somebodies reply,
so I found it on google, so here we go....

Price of gas 'correlated' to tax cut, no. I was saying Bush bought
voters with a tax cut, but
the voters pay him back many times because of the higher fuel prices.
Also he has the taxpayer pay for the weapons to create the tensions to
up that fuel price.

Your view of bonds is perhaps not complete, first lets look at the
foreign investments:
http://www.ustreas.gov/tic/mfh.txt
You will see the treasury securities for China and Japan getting lower
and lower. in the last few month.
So if nobody buys US debt, you will not even have enough income to pay
the INTEREST on the current outstanding
debt.
The US cannot react by increasing interest!
This puts you at the level of a third world country, and has a
snowball effect.
There is a recent interesting thread in us.politics that includes
China groups about this.
http://groups.google.com/group/us.p...36d3436e59d/8fe1bcf383e52a6a#8fe1bcf383e52a6a

As to Boeing, the Dreamliner has as marketing argument low fuel
consumption.
When oil prices drop, that argument becomes less of an issue.
By the time it finally appears on the market, Bush will be stepping
down, and I expect oil prices to drop.

Your argument that the increased consumption of China and India etc
will keep oil prices up, I do not 100% share.
What perhaps could keep prices up is if Putin starts playing the same
'create middle east tensions' game that Bush did.
And Putin has an interest in that, as an oil and natural gas exporter.
But IF Putin plays the increase tensions game, than there is a big
risk of a WW3, because of say an over-reaction by the US.
If that happens bad times for everybody.
Bush is n*ts enough to want to walk towards a scenario like that: more
tax payer funded weapons sales...

Where will it go?
Like I said recently: The price of bomb shelters will go up because of
demand.

The 'little' guy like you and me have no influence over this, we found
now:
We are not at the center of the universe.
We are not the only life form (likely).
And, recently scientist showed we have no free will.

So what can we do? Well we can enjoy the interaction with the rest of
the universe.
Que sera sera

 

[John Larkin]

Hey, I did not see your posting on my normal news server, but I did
see somebodies reply,
so I found it on google, so here we go....

Price of gas 'correlated' to tax cut, no. I was saying Bush bought
voters with a tax cut, but
the voters pay him back many times because of the higher fuel prices.
Also he has the taxpayer pay for the weapons to create the tensions to
up that fuel price.

Your view of bonds is perhaps not complete, first lets look at the
foreign investments:
http://www.ustreas.gov/tic/mfh.txt
You will see the treasury securities for China and Japan getting lower
and lower. in the last few month.
So if nobody buys US debt, you will not even have enough income to pay
the INTEREST on the current outstanding
debt.
The US cannot react by increasing interest!
This puts you at the level of a third world country, and has a
snowball effect.
There is a recent interesting thread in us.politics that includes
China groups about this.
http://groups.google.com/group/us.p...36d3436e59d/8fe1bcf383e52a6a#8fe1bcf383e52a6a

As to Boeing, the Dreamliner has as marketing argument low fuel
consumption.

Fuel is a major airline cost, and air travel is exploding in China and
India too. China is getting serious in building commercial aircraft.
That's another reason that oil prices will stay up.

P&W has got their first order for geared turbofan engines, something
they've been working on for 20 years, R&D about $1B so far. They
figure they can increase fuel economy by 20%, roughly doubling airline
profits. Of course, fare competition wouldn't let that happen.

When oil prices drop, that argument becomes less of an issue.
By the time it finally appears on the market, Bush will be stepping
down, and I expect oil prices to drop.

Maybe transiently, but longterm the trend must be up.

Your argument that the increased consumption of China and India etc
will keep oil prices up, I do not 100% share.
What perhaps could keep prices up is if Putin starts playing the same
'create middle east tensions' game that Bush did.
And Putin has an interest in that, as an oil and natural gas exporter.
But IF Putin plays the increase tensions game, than there is a big
risk of a WW3, because of say an over-reaction by the US.
If that happens bad times for everybody.
Bush is n*ts enough to want to walk towards a scenario like that: more
tax payer funded weapons sales...

Where will it go?
Like I said recently: The price of bomb shelters will go up because of
demand.

That all sounds strained. The US, like a lot of the rest of the world,
is post-industrialist: we can grow all the food, build all the
housing, generate all the power, and provide all the baseline
necessities for our populations with ease. The biggest "crisis" we are
likely to see will be inconvenient, a cutback in luxuries. Carpooling,
or eating less beef, or having to install cf lights [1] won't kill
anybody. If the stock market lost half its value, well, so what?

The 'little' guy like you and me have no influence over this, we found
now:
We are not at the center of the universe.
We are not the only life form (likely).
And, recently scientist showed we have no free will.

I wonder what inspired that scientist to investigate that?

So what can we do? Well we can enjoy the interaction with the rest of
the universe.

That makes sense. If you read the newspapers and watch CBS teevee news
and prowl the blogs enough, you can become as angry or as depressed as
you like. If you look around, in real life, you have all the tools and
options that any sensible person needs to enjoy life.

Que sera sera

No, we do have control.

John

[1] spiral cf lamps, in various wattages, are on sale at Discount
Builders for 99 cents each. Laser levels are on sale at the checkout
stand, $5.99, 2 for $10.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

I wonder what inspired that scientist to investigate that?

It is an old philosophical issue.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/feb/09/neuroscience.ethicsofscience
In my interpretation of this, the decisions we make are made in the subconscious first,
and that subconscious is just a neural net with all past as weights and the present
as inputs, hence the word 'interaction' I used.

Of course this will upset many, who hold dearly to "other" ideas.
The Nobel (DNA) winner was removed from his post because he merely MENTIONED
blacks were found to be less intelligent then whites.
Science, politicalised, and falsified, as if we still live in the 1500 or 1600....
It may take some time for the real stuff to be accepted.

That makes sense. If you read the newspapers and watch CBS teevee news
and prowl the blogs enough, you can become as angry or as depressed as
you like. If you look around, in real life, you have all the tools and
options that any sensible person needs to enjoy life.


No, we do have control.

See above.

 

[John Larkin]

It is an old philosophical issue.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/feb/09/neuroscience.ethicsofscience
In my interpretation of this, the decisions we make are made in the subconscious first,
and that subconscious is just a neural net with all past as weights and the present
as inputs, hence the word 'interaction' I used.

Of course this will upset many, who hold dearly to "other" ideas.
The Nobel (DNA) winner was removed from his post because he merely MENTIONED
blacks were found to be less intelligent then whites.
Science, politicalised, and falsified, as if we still live in the 1500 or 1600....
It may take some time for the real stuff to be accepted.




See above.

OK, deepest apologies. So let me restate:

I have control, and you don't.


John

 

[Jan Panteltje]

OK, deepest apologies. So let me restate:

I have control, and you don't.


John

 

[Rich the Philosophizer]

On a sunny day (Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:55:14 -0700) it happened John Larkin


It is an old philosophical issue.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/feb/09/neuroscience.ethicsofscience
In my interpretation of this, the decisions we make are made in the subconscious first,
and that subconscious is just a neural net with all past as weights and the present
as inputs, hence the word 'interaction' I used.

Of course this will upset many, who hold dearly to "other" ideas.
The Nobel (DNA) winner was removed from his post because he merely MENTIONED
blacks were found to be less intelligent then whites.
Science, politicalised, and falsified, as if we still live in the 1500 or 1600....
It may take some time for the real stuff to be accepted.


See above.

Oh, there is Free Will.
There is new information about Free Will here:
http://www.godchannel.com/interview.html

It's about Free Will.

If it's wrong, at least on my deathbed I won't have to say, "Damn, I wish
I'd investigated..."

Hope This Helps!
Rich

 

[Jan Panteltje]

Oh, there is Free Will.
ftp://panteltje.com/pub/freewill.gif


If it's wrong, at least on my deathbed I won't have to say, "Damn, I wish
I'd investigated..."

Hope This Helps!
Rich

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LOL