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Matthew Stanley

Jan 1, 1970
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I have a DSC PC3000 that I got from a customer. It has the dealer lockout
set. I was wanting to know if I can get around that without sending it back
to DSC to be reset.

Any information helps....

Thanks!

Matthew
 
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Matthew Stanley

Jan 1, 1970
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Version 7.71

I am moving and want to put on the the garage... Since it works, I always
think of... "Its its not broke, Dont fix it".

If it is possible I would like to use it since I have 2 keypads and a
working control. But again.. I always like having a spare panel just in
case one that I have out blows....... If I have a spare, I usually just
charge the customer the fee to come out and replace it....

Matthew
 
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tourman

Jan 1, 1970
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with the DSC PC 3000. It works well
and has in my experience no bugs in that chip version. I have more than
a dozen spare boards that I keep in stock to service my existing
customer base, but most have been eaten up by other small dealer
friends who need them as well. The board is no longer made by DSC so
they have actually increased in value as they decrease in availability.


DSC will not unlock any boards. To my knowledge, they never have at any
time in the past. 'when you think about it, why would they do something
to defeat a feature they put into their boards originally. As well, why
do something that decreases the number of boards they sell.

Send it off to Jim Rojas in Florida if you are in the US, or myself in
Eastern Canada (east of the Manitoba border), or Action Jackson at
www.unlockservices.com for anything west of that same border.

Howeverm If you do bite the bullet and replace it with a modern alarm
panel, you WILL end up with a more modern panel that definately can
communicate much more quickly to the Central Station.

R.H.Campbell
Home Security MetaL Products
www.homemetal.com/installer_lockout.htm
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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tourman said:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the DSC PC 3000. It works well
and has in my experience no bugs in that chip version. I have more than
a dozen spare boards that I keep in stock to service my existing
customer base, but most have been eaten up by other small dealer
friends who need them as well. The board is no longer made by DSC so
they have actually increased in value as they decrease in availability.


DSC will not unlock any boards. To my knowledge, they never have at any
time in the past. 'when you think about it, why would they do something
to defeat a feature they put into their boards originally. As well, why
do something that decreases the number of boards they sell.

They did in the early to mid 90's
 
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tourman

Jan 1, 1970
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Hmmh....well, that's something I definately didn't know. I do know that
DSC developed a cheap and dirty device to allow the guys at Tried to
power up any board quickly and safely in order to listen for the tell
tale chirps that a locked board gives off. It seems some less than
honest dealers were trying to turn in locked boards as defective ones,
to get another unlocked one under warranty.

But no, I didn't know that DSC ever unlocked boards for anyone. I know
they used to charge back $25 to the dealer if a defective board was
returned in a locked state. But to actually unlock boards on
demand....that's news to me !

RHC
 
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Matthew Stanley

Jan 1, 1970
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At one time I thought there was a way to unlock the panels by installing a
jumper wire some place.. Its been a few years since I messed with that at
all.. but I dont like to throw anything away that still works!

Matthew
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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tourman said:
Hmmh....well, that's something I definately didn't know. I do know that
DSC developed a cheap and dirty device to allow the guys at Tried to
power up any board quickly and safely in order to listen for the tell
tale chirps that a locked board gives off. It seems some less than
honest dealers were trying to turn in locked boards as defective ones,
to get another unlocked one under warranty.

I haven't heard of any device DSC made to find that, seems pretty simple to
power up the board and listen for the clicks, One thing I found out when I
was unlocking boards was a lot were turned into our office that weren't
locked out, the tech for some reason just thought they were

But no, I didn't know that DSC ever unlocked boards for anyone. I know
they used to charge back $25 to the dealer if a defective board was
returned in a locked state. But to actually unlock boards on
demand....that's news to me !

It could have been our company which was a huge user of 1550/2530/3000
boards. Manufacturers tend to bend over backwards for high volume dealers
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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Depending on the version you don't even have to do that
 
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tourman

Jan 1, 1970
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Mark said:
I haven't heard of any device DSC made to find that, seems pretty simple to
power up the board and listen for the clicks,

RHC: Could be it was just something they made up for the local Tried
boys here in Ottawa. It's a simple rig to power up with AC without any
risk of (I guess) hurting themselves ??? Anyway, it serves to sort out
the really defective boards from the locked ones...

One thing I found out when I
was unlocking boards was a lot were turned into our office that weren't
locked out, the tech for some reason just thought they were

RHC: Yup ! I find that too within bulk orders. I find quite a few
boards that are not locked at all, and a few that have been defaulted
properly, but the installer didn't know that 1555 and 5555 are both
valid codes for the Power 632, depending upon version. Or that 737373
and 282828 are both valid codes for the Paradox Esprit, again depending
upon versions. So he figures they are still locked when they don't
respond. I have been sorely tempted to charge them anyway for their
stupidity, and the work to set my equipment up, but I've resisted the
urge so far....

It could have been our company which was a huge user of 1550/2530/3000
boards. Manufacturers tend to bend over backwards for high volume
dealers

RHC: Yeah, I guess that could be it. I really don't think they ever did
it for the general market.

RHC
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Mark said:
It could have been our company which was a huge user of 1550/2530/3000
boards. Manufacturers tend to bend over backwards for high volume dealers

It wasn't just yours. Our local Tried office took locked "Classic"
boards back and unlocked them for you (for a small fee).
 
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tourman

Jan 1, 1970
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Ok, I guess I was dead wrong about that....

RHC

Frank said:
It wasn't just yours. Our local Tried office took locked "Classic"
boards back and unlocked them for you (for a small fee).
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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It wasn't just yours. Our local Tried
Olson read where someone else said that. No one at Tri-ed has ever heard of him.
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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So if you walk into the parts house in
your respective city and if you don't get a grunt and a grumble from someone
behind the counter to acknowledging your presence then you some how
don't rate?

That's not the point, Roland. Olson has been lying for years, claiming he does all sorts of installations. He's not even an
installer. There are three major distributors in Burnaby. Olson says he's been installing there for years yet none of them

He also told us he snap-rolled a brand new 737 (something which is physically impossible) after borrowing it from Boeing (something
Boeing has never done) to test his theory about how another airplane crashed. In that ridiculous story, Olson originally claimed
that the plan was to deploy reverse thrusters at altitude. He backed off on that one when I informed hiom there's an interlock
which prevents the thrusters from engaging unless there's weight on the mains (ie, the plane is on the ground).

Olson has repeatedly lied about me, about my business, about phone conversations he says we had, etc. He has also spent *most* of
his online substitute for a life attacking me in this and other newsgroups. I feel it is my responsibility to make certain others
here aren't taken in by his bullfrank.
 
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Matthew Stanley

Jan 1, 1970
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Well, I think this post got alittle off topic so let me "Re- Rail" this
train!

Thanks to all who helped me. I got the panel unlocked.

Matthew
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
That's not the point, Roland. Olson has been lying for years, claiming he does all sorts of installations. He's not even an
installer. There are three major distributors in Burnaby. Olson says he's been installing there for years yet none of them

You're losing it, Robbie. Can't even finish your sentences. Let me
explain (once again) for your benefit (since you're quite obviously an
idiot). Not a single person here knows me as "Olson". The explanation
for this is really quite simple. You figure everyone that posts here
with a "username" is using the one he's known by in the industry?? Have
I got news for you.

He also told us he snap-rolled a brand new 737 (something which is physically impossible)

Nope. I never said that. I've never snap rolled anything other than a
Citabria, a C-150 Aerobat, and a Pitts Special.

after borrowing it from Boeing (something
Boeing has never done)

Never said that either. Geeze you're a LIAR, aintcha?

to test his theory about how another airplane crashed. In that ridiculous story, Olson originally claimed
that the plan was to deploy reverse thrusters at altitude. He backed off on that one when I informed hiom there's an interlock
which prevents the thrusters from engaging unless there's weight on the mains (ie, the plane is on the ground).

Nope. Never did that either. And you can override the reversers *in
flight*. What I said was that we couldn't deploy them in flight because
of the risk of structural damage. We elected to "simulate" the reverser
depolying by applying a generous amount of left rudder instead.

Olson has repeatedly lied about me,

Where have I ever "lied about you"? Show me just one post to back your
claim.

about my business,

Proof, Bass, Proof!

about phone conversations he says we had, etc.

I've only ever had *one* telephone conversation with you.

He has also spent *most* of
his online substitute for a life attacking me in this and other newsgroups. I feel it is my responsibility to make certain others
here aren't taken in by his bullfrank.


Really? The foremost LIAR in Usenet accuses someone else of being a
liar. Prove it, Bass. Put up or shut up.
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Roland said:
I snapped rolled the UFO I borrowed from an ET. Does that count?


No, unfortunately UFO's don't rely on aerodynamic principles to maintain
flight.
 
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Jim

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob said:
Frank Olson said:
No one at Tri-ed ever heard of you either.

Down here they have! :eek:]

You ought to hear what Tech support at Napco has to say about him.

I never would have believed that I could sense someone rolling their
eyes, over the the telephone. But .... I guess it could be because it
was accompanied with a groan and an incredulously asked ..... DO YOU
*** KNOW *** HIM???
 
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Jim

Jan 1, 1970
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Frank said:
No, unfortunately UFO's don't rely on aerodynamic principles to maintain
flight.

I once un-snapped a 24 hour stay-up bra that was pretty aerodynamic
looking. But I was able to identify all objects involved.

Does that count?
 
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