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Door Holder?

Discussion in 'Security Alarms' started by Marc, Feb 2, 2004.

  1. Marc

    Marc Guest

    I have a request by a store to install one of those door holders that keeps
    the door locked untill they press a button to unlock it. They do not want
    the entire door changed out or notched into it, and im sure there is a
    device that can be mounted on the frame and on the door itself that holds it
    closed to the button is pressed.. can anyone give me a link to something
    like this? Im not looking for the most expensive, just something that works.

    Thanks
     
  2. Jackcsg

    Jackcsg Guest

    Advanced Signal makes the most cost effect Magnetic Lock which is very easy
    to install. ADI carry's them if your a dealer. If not there are some online
    folks here who can help you out. The part No. is L-1000SS, it has 1,000 lbs.
    holding force 12/24 VDC. I have installed hundreds of these.

    Jack
     
  3. Marc

    Marc Guest

    I have an ADI catalog and i just looked at it. .. the door and the frame
    itself are flush together, more like a regular door in a house (frame and
    dooor come together to make a straight line not the door being out a little.
    Can this 1000SS still work on this door? it looks like the magnet strip
    comes to the holder from the back .. i would need something that latches
    north to south verses east to west if that makes sense
     
  4. Jackcsg

    Jackcsg Guest

    I'd investigate it. There could be a logical explanation. I said could. Such
    as in preparing for the test, relays were disabled during the test, as to
    not interfere with daily activities. The real question is: was there a means
    of manual disconnect at the door? If not, that's the first point I'd bring
    up...then discuss the fire release. There should be both.

    Jack
     
  5. Marc

    Marc Guest

    Sorry to be so stupid on this, but then if this is on the front door, how do
    the people get into the building in the morning? Do they have to turn it on
    first thing in the mornign and turn it off at night? or is this not the
    right type of thing to use on the main entrance?
     
  6. Jackcsg

    Jackcsg Guest

    Ok, your talking something a little different now than just putting a
    maglock on a door. Your talking Access Control. Well...a couple of things.
    Is there a security system already in place? If so, a simple cost effective
    way to incorporate some limited access control features would be to use an
    I.E.I product. I.E.I (International Electronics Inc.) makes keypads which
    can handle what you need. Whether you have an existing system or not. These
    devices have, or can have, a keypad (weather proof) which can be mounted
    outside, which communicates to another board (located inside) which contains
    a lock release relay, a door position switch (door contact), and a
    Request-to-exit input. Keep in mind two critical things. 1. If your placing
    a Maglock on any door, it must be interfaced to release when the building
    fire alarm activates. 2. You must provide an emergency means of manual
    egress (in case of an emergency). You can use a Securitron PB-2 to activate
    the Request-to-Exit which would release the lock from the inside (Normal
    egress), or you can use a Motion Detector if the door will be used for
    public egress, and the door is always locked. I use a Manual Pull Station
    made by STI, model 2400. It's a "Blue" Pull Station labeled "Emergency Door
    Release". This station has a DPDT contact. Use one side NC to supply power
    to the Maglock. This is important. Run the Power for the Maglock through
    this Pull Station before going through the I.E.I controller and then to the
    Maglock. This ensures, under any condition, power will be cut to the
    Maglock. The other set of contacts can be wired to the existing security
    system, or you could activate a local buzzer, etc. The I.E.I. is simple to
    wire. Before there were integrated systems, I used I.E.I. to do access
    control, and used a standard burg panel to transmit alarm conditions. I do
    the same now, but with DMP. I sell a standard Access Control Door with a
    Maglock for around $ 1,000.00 Installed. Depending on what your customer
    wants, I.E.I is a great little way to secure a door, and depending on the
    level of features with their HUB series, you can even tie software into it,
    or even administer it remotely through a dial-up connection. Just remember
    safety. Fire Alarm Interface, and Emergency Egress always when it comes to
    maglocks. www.ieib.com

    Jack
     
  7. Aegis

    Aegis Guest

    I like IEI too, just one little thing:

    Don't put those little self-contained (screwdriver through the 5-key)
    keypads on an exterior door... Make sure to get one which has the control
    electronics remotely located.

    I'll do it some interior doors though.
     
  8. Venus

    Venus Guest

    Oh BTW, the surgery was successful and my mother is doing fine. :^)

    will burst.
     
  9. Frank Olson

    Frank Olson Guest


    Dang... You just had to provide him with the explanation, didn't you?? I
    was really enjoying the thought of all the "egg" on his face when he went to
    report the "violation" to the AHJ... Great "security expert/student pilot"
    that he is...
     
  10. Jackcsg

    Jackcsg Guest

    I know...but think of all the mindless babble I just saved a few from
    typing. Sometimes you have to think of the recipient as well...and what I
    saved him.

    Jack
     
  11. Frank Olson

    Frank Olson Guest


    Yeah... right... whatever...
     
  12. Jackcsg

    Jackcsg Guest

    Regardless of any "Contracts", that's a no brainier who'll be paying for
    that.

    Jack
     
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