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JoeRaisin

Jan 1, 1970
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About four years ago my boys became close friends with a kid they met at
their tea kwon do school. They all enjoyed snowboarding (winter) and
skateboarding (summer). he even became a black belt at the same time as
my younger boy (15yo).

We have a very large driveway and he has some nice hills behind his
house so it quickley became the norm for them to spend most of the
summer at our house and most of the winter at his.

His parents are very nice folks and we visited their house along with
our kids many time and vice-versa.

I noticed they had no fire protection in their very old house. I had
commented to Doug many times that I could easily throw together a simple
fire system from stuff I had salvaged during takeovers and tear downs
but we would have to buy a few wireless smokes (four would have done it).

We both agreed it would be a good idea and I even started throwing some
stuf in a box but I never got around to doing it. I had everything
together and could have easily gotten a few smokes from our service
department at reduced cost - but agan, I never could seem to find the time.

Saturday morning at around 4 am the house burned to the ground and my 18
year old son was the only one who didn't get out.

The other two boys in the home at the time said that when they woke up
they couldn't get through the house to the room my son had gone to sleep
in. It wouldn't have mattered as the investigator (who at this time is
leaning towards electrical in the kitchen ceiling) believes (based on
the descriptions from the those two) that since my son had his bedroom
door open he was most likely already gone (from the smoke) by the time
the other two woke up at the other end of the house.

Had I not screwed around and done what I knew needed doing they would
have at least had a chance of waking up before it was too late and my
son would still be teaching tae kwon do and going to school.

I wouldn't be sitting here waiting until Monday so they can take his
body down state to be identified (he was the only other one who could
have been in the house). We don't know when we will be getting him back.

If you have any family or friends who are not adequately or even
rudimentarily protected don't wait. Do it today.

Don't let a loved one die because you procrastinate. Everyone is aying
it was an accident and that these things happen. I know better. He is
dead because I saw something that needed to be done and I simply didn't
do it. It is a father's duty to protect his children.
 
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Tommy

Jan 1, 1970
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My sincerest condolences on your loss, joe. You will be in our prayers.
 
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secure15

Jan 1, 1970
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Joe,
My family's heart goes out to you! Having a teenager away at College, I
think about it daily. So sorry for the loss of your son.... I know it
sounds idiotic, but don't blame yourself. It's not up to us to
determine the time or the way in which we depart. Rest assured he is
indeed in a much better place. God Bless you all in this time of sorrow.
Mike S.
 
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Sean

Jan 1, 1970
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JoeRaisin said:
About four years ago my boys became close friends with a kid they met at
their tea kwon do school. They all enjoyed snowboarding (winter) and
skateboarding (summer). he even became a black belt at the same time as
my younger boy (15yo).

We have a very large driveway and he has some nice hills behind his
house so it quickley became the norm for them to spend most of the
summer at our house and most of the winter at his.

His parents are very nice folks and we visited their house along with
our kids many time and vice-versa.

I noticed they had no fire protection in their very old house. I had
commented to Doug many times that I could easily throw together a simple
fire system from stuff I had salvaged during takeovers and tear downs
but we would have to buy a few wireless smokes (four would have done it).

We both agreed it would be a good idea and I even started throwing some
stuf in a box but I never got around to doing it. I had everything
together and could have easily gotten a few smokes from our service
department at reduced cost - but agan, I never could seem to find the time.

Saturday morning at around 4 am the house burned to the ground and my 18
year old son was the only one who didn't get out.

The other two boys in the home at the time said that when they woke up
they couldn't get through the house to the room my son had gone to sleep
in. It wouldn't have mattered as the investigator (who at this time is
leaning towards electrical in the kitchen ceiling) believes (based on
the descriptions from the those two) that since my son had his bedroom
door open he was most likely already gone (from the smoke) by the time
the other two woke up at the other end of the house.

Had I not screwed around and done what I knew needed doing they would
have at least had a chance of waking up before it was too late and my
son would still be teaching tae kwon do and going to school.

I wouldn't be sitting here waiting until Monday so they can take his
body down state to be identified (he was the only other one who could
have been in the house). We don't know when we will be getting him back.

If you have any family or friends who are not adequately or even
rudimentarily protected don't wait. Do it today.

Don't let a loved one die because you procrastinate. Everyone is aying
it was an accident and that these things happen. I know better. He is
dead because I saw something that needed to be done and I simply didn't
do it. It is a father's duty to protect his children.
Sorry Joe, my sympathies to you. It is never easy to lose a someone
especially your child.
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Joe,

You and your family are in our prayers. Please don't be too hard on yourself. It will only lead you into depression and right now
your family needs you to be strong.
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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JoeRaisin said:
About four years ago my boys became close friends with a kid they met at
their tea kwon do school. They all enjoyed snowboarding (winter) and
skateboarding (summer). he even became a black belt at the same time as
my younger boy (15yo).

We have a very large driveway and he has some nice hills behind his
house so it quickley became the norm for them to spend most of the
summer at our house and most of the winter at his.

His parents are very nice folks and we visited their house along with
our kids many time and vice-versa.

I noticed they had no fire protection in their very old house. I had
commented to Doug many times that I could easily throw together a simple
fire system from stuff I had salvaged during takeovers and tear downs
but we would have to buy a few wireless smokes (four would have done it).

We both agreed it would be a good idea and I even started throwing some
stuf in a box but I never got around to doing it. I had everything
together and could have easily gotten a few smokes from our service
department at reduced cost - but agan, I never could seem to find the time.

Saturday morning at around 4 am the house burned to the ground and my 18
year old son was the only one who didn't get out.

The other two boys in the home at the time said that when they woke up
they couldn't get through the house to the room my son had gone to sleep
in. It wouldn't have mattered as the investigator (who at this time is
leaning towards electrical in the kitchen ceiling) believes (based on
the descriptions from the those two) that since my son had his bedroom
door open he was most likely already gone (from the smoke) by the time
the other two woke up at the other end of the house.

Had I not screwed around and done what I knew needed doing they would
have at least had a chance of waking up before it was too late and my
son would still be teaching tae kwon do and going to school.

I wouldn't be sitting here waiting until Monday so they can take his
body down state to be identified (he was the only other one who could
have been in the house). We don't know when we will be getting him back.

If you have any family or friends who are not adequately or even
rudimentarily protected don't wait. Do it today.

Don't let a loved one die because you procrastinate. Everyone is aying
it was an accident and that these things happen. I know better. He is
dead because I saw something that needed to be done and I simply didn't
do it. It is a father's duty to protect his children.


You can't and shouldn't blame yourself. It wasn't your responsibility
to install smoke detectors in the house in the first place. I do agree
that every parent has the responsibility to ensure their children's
safety but there are times when they will be away from that protection
and their only "shield" will be what you've taught them to watch out
for. You can't go around blaming yourself for what happened even though
I know you will. All of us can relate to what you've posted here in
some small way (and I don't wish to appear to diminish what you're going
through). We all know of customers that have opted NOT to include smoke
alarms or a carbon monoxide detector in their alarm installations. You
have to realize that it's *their* decision and that you aren't obligated
to include it "free" out of "moral conscience" or feelings of guilt that
might be engendered when we read of such a tragic accident as what
befell your son (and family). Joe. It *is* an accident. You might
think it could have been avoided, but you really don't know that for
sure. For what it's worth, you could have supplied them with any number
of wireless smoke alarms but what if the homeowner never changed the
batteries (or ignored the low battery signal)? Please don't blame
yourself. Please forgive yourself. Take care and God Bless! My
prayers are with you and your family.
 
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FIRETEK

Jan 1, 1970
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The words people have used in response to your message are every bit as
important as what you've said here. We are responsible for our children for
as long as they live with us. My wife and I have raised our two sons with
but one thought in mind. At some point they will find their own path and
follow it where-ever it may lead. You can't always hold their hands and you
have to hope that messages like this will open their eyes to the hazards
that surround them, and keep them safe. You can't blame yourself for what
happened. It's only natural to question what you've done (and what you
could have done) after something like this happens. It's hard to let go of
that parental responsibility but rest assured, the blame is not yours. It's
not even with the family whose house it was. God Bless and Keep you.
 
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Petem

Jan 1, 1970
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My sincerest condolences,Joe

Don't blame yourself,Only God decide when he recall one of us..
You need to be strong in those hard days,the rest of your family need you
My prayer's will be for you and your family..
 
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Norm Mugford

Jan 1, 1970
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Our prayers go out to you and your family Joe.....
Be strong.

Norm Mugford



JoeRaisin said:
About four years ago my boys became close friends with a kid they met at
their tea kwon do school. They all enjoyed snowboarding (winter) and
skateboarding (summer). he even became a black belt at the same time as
my younger boy (15yo).

We have a very large driveway and he has some nice hills behind his house
so it quickley became the norm for them to spend most of the summer at our
house and most of the winter at his.

His parents are very nice folks and we visited their house along with our
kids many time and vice-versa.

I noticed they had no fire protection in their very old house. I had
commented to Doug many times that I could easily throw together a simple
fire system from stuff I had salvaged during takeovers and tear downs but
we would have to buy a few wireless smokes (four would have done it).

We both agreed it would be a good idea and I even started throwing some
stuf in a box but I never got around to doing it. I had everything
together and could have easily gotten a few smokes from our service
department at reduced cost - but agan, I never could seem to find the
time.

Saturday morning at around 4 am the house burned to the ground and my 18
year old son was the only one who didn't get out.

The other two boys in the home at the time said that when they woke up
they couldn't get through the house to the room my son had gone to sleep
in. It wouldn't have mattered as the investigator (who at this time is
leaning towards electrical in the kitchen ceiling) believes (based on the
descriptions from the those two) that since my son had his bedroom door
open he was most likely already gone (from the smoke) by the time the
other two woke up at the other end of the house.

Had I not screwed around and done what I knew needed doing they would have
at least had a chance of waking up before it was too late and my son would
still be teaching tae kwon do and going to school.

I wouldn't be sitting here waiting until Monday so they can take his body
down state to be identified (he was the only other one who could have been
in the house). We don't know when we will be getting him back.

If you have any family or friends who are not adequately or even
rudimentarily protected don't wait. Do it today.

Don't let a loved one die because you procrastinate. Everyone is aying it
was an accident and that these things happen. I know better. He is dead
because I saw something that needed to be done and I simply didn't do it.
It is a father's duty to protect his children.


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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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I guess I just want everyone to
know what a rare soul he truly was.

You must be very proud to have raised a son who touched so many people in such a good way, Joe.

Regards,
Robert
 
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J Barnes

Jan 1, 1970
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Joe,
I am sorry to hear this, my thoughts and prayers are with you.

James B
 
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