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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"John Teretis"
My claim is the 'do not call register' is outright useless.

Prove me wrong.


** ASD fucked trolling MORONS like " Jerkshis"

do not get to judge any damn thing.





........ Phil
 
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Alan Rutlidge

Jan 1, 1970
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John Tserkezis said:
Usually if you have a fax machine within a corporate environment, this
isn't an option.

Correct in some cases. I've worked in the corporate sector and some of the
machines were send only, receive only or bothway (normal operation). For
some people in smaller businesses, setting the machine to send only mode
isn't rocket science.
You're a toothless tiger with no teeth. They have every legal right to
send you faxes, and you have no legal backing to stop them.

You'd be surprised how a simple polite request can get results. Not
guaranteed to, but if you don't ask you you'll never know.
Also responding appropriately to a polite request is more likely to gain the
company kudoes rather than become the source of complaint. The latter
unlikely to get your business and a lot on negative publicity.

Dell used to send me weekly fax specials. I wasn't interested so I faxed
their fax back to 1800818341 and they stopped sending them. :)
www.cartridgecentral.com.au offer a similar "stop sending us faxes" service
with an automated dial up number to call.

Not going to work. It's a fax modem that's designed to send only. If
it's configured to go both ways, the most you can do it occupy a bit of
hard drive space, and umpteen pages isn't going to help, a few keystrokes
on any half decent fax gate software will ensure you don't get any more
than a certain amount before pulling the plug (as so not to hold up the
line).

Legal options will do nothing. You need hired goons to give them a stern
talking to.

Sounds like you need to strike up an ongoing relationship with Philty
Allison.
He's into a bit of biffo and sending "the Marist old boys" around to sort
things out - LOL.

If you happen to have your fax machine within arms reach, check your CLD
everytime a fax call comes through.
If it reads "Private" or "Unavailable" just press the STOP button. Works
for me. :)

Cheers,
Alan
 
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John Tserkezis

Jan 1, 1970
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Alan said:
Correct in some cases. I've worked in the corporate sector and some of the
machines were send only, receive only or bothway (normal operation). For
some people in smaller businesses, setting the machine to send only mode
isn't rocket science.

I've worked in both large and small scale corporates. The larger scales can
go both ways depending (and there are a decent number of fax machines around
the building - and they vary depending on use.

On small scale however, the only option was both ways. It is a company fax
machine after all.
You'd be surprised how a simple polite request can get results. Not
guaranteed to, but if you don't ask you you'll never know.

I have a major problem with that, it's no fun.
Also responding appropriately to a polite request is more likely to gain the
company kudoes rather than become the source of complaint. The latter
unlikely to get your business and a lot on negative publicity.

I REALLY don't think that a whine from a scammer/spammer etc is going to
earn anything they say credibility.
And when you read that the telemarketers overseas are screaming for more
protection against verbal abuse from the suckers^H^H^Hcustomers they're
calling, the only good thing I can think of is that the laws that don't
protect us, also don't protect them.
Looks like "we" have thicker skins than them. We win.
Dell used to send me weekly fax specials. I wasn't interested so I faxed
their fax back to 1800818341 and they stopped sending them. :)
www.cartridgecentral.com.au offer a similar "stop sending us faxes" service
with an automated dial up number to call.

Same thing here. We wondered why they started in the first place after we
made it abundantly clear we weren't happy with the first POS they sent us. (it
was the bosses idea, he thought it was a good deal, and by-passed the three or
four computer-heads in the office that knew anything).
I think the thing that frustrated me more, was not that we were getting the
junk faxes, but that someone would faithfully move the damn things into the
fax "in" tray instead of screw them up and throw them out.
Sounds like you need to strike up an ongoing relationship with Philty
Allison. He's into a bit of biffo and sending "the Marist old boys" around to
sort things out - LOL.

I can't even tell if that's what he's trying to say. He really doesn't make
sense most of the time. In fact, in reiterating the 'do not call register'
rules, he appears to be on THEIR bloody side.

When we can't send the 'boys around (those pesky laws stop us from doing
that anwyay), we have GREAT fun in putting the overseas telescammers on
speakerphone, and having fun with them. We had one get so frustrated, he
started abusing us in his native language. So we did the only thing we could
- we laughed harder.
After I abruptly hung up one after giving her some lip, she called me back
(twice!) and said I couldn't talk to her like that. I assumed she meant I
wasn't coarse enough, so I gave her even more lip.
Seriously, if we're going to waste time talking to them, we may as well 'get
our monies worth'. This really is a victimless sport, after all, the laws
that don't protect us, also don't protect them.
If you happen to have your fax machine within arms reach, check your CLD
everytime a fax call comes through.
If it reads "Private" or "Unavailable" just press the STOP button. Works
for me. :)

A couple of points here.

The CLD string is checkable via software, so you could "filter" out faxes at
this point if it's a fax modem. Though I really don't think it's useful
whitelisting in a corporate environment, because you don't know where the next
fax is coming from. Though it's still useful to partially filter obvious
things like missing CLDs, or "corrupt" entries that don't appear to be usable
numbers.

The other point is that within Australia, they made it law (long time ago,
may have changed) for senders to provide a valid origin number within the CLD
field. For missing entries, or obviously grunged entries, just chuck them out
- and it's quite safe and reliable to do so.

All the valid faxes, and all the more "reputable" source junk faxes all had
valid CLDs. Anything that didn't, was real junk.
In my experience, there was very little "reputable" junk.

However, I think the faxmarketers, and especially the scammers, are moving
away from faxes anyway. Email is much cheaper and covers a wider audience.
 
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Terryc

Jan 1, 1970
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Trevor said:
**I gave up my fax machine (and dedicated fax line) when I realised that
90% of my incoming faxes were junk faxes. Buggered if I will pay to
recieve junk mail (ink and paper). A fax machine is really not all that
important in business today.

I just installed an old PC funning free fax software that allowed me to
blacklist certain numbers. then it was just like delete the spam that
slips through.
 
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Alan Rutlidge

Jan 1, 1970
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Rudolf said:
I mean that I have it listed for business, not in registry.

Sorry for the confusion.

Telemarketers call (voice call) and have a nice chat with fax machine.

Rudolf

Ah, and quite funny it is too. :) Strange how my fax machine can't
translate the Indian or Pakistani accent either. :p

Cheers,
Alan
 
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