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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
We have a single bulb central in the kitchen that I hate in the
morning when I first get up to make my coffee. My wife usually is up
first and has the light on. I have taken to putting on sunglasses to
ease my pain. It is a 6500K, that's the problem.
The bulb burned out and I have resolved to find a happy medium
with the replacement.
The bulb was a 23 watt 6500K Model L23TM4/65K
Found a good sight for info;

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm...&sortParameter=brand_name&letter=ALL#tabletop

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm...&sortParameter=brand_name&letter=ALL#tabletop

I already have already installed a bulb from the closet.
It is a GE FLE26HT3/2/SW
Finally, found the color temp it is a 2700K.

I know she will not like it.

Here we go!

She just got home, she walked in and put stuff on the counter and
walked back out. She didn't say anything, maybe she won't notice.

Ahh, second trip in she said "oh, you replaced the light, I'll change it
tomorrow"

Ok, I knew it wouldn't fly so I'm back to finding a color temp we can
both live with. I suspect she has a bit of a cataract problem, so more
light is probably better, but 26 watts is about the highest wattage bulb
I've seen.

Right now we are between 2700K and 6500K.

The base is up in the fixture inside of a globe, I'd go LED if
it was not directional.

So any suggestions for a bulb that would make us both happy.

I plan on keeping the wife, but I guess I could move my coffee pot.


Mikek
 
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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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The 6500K bulb we had is rated 1600 Lumens.
Mikek
 
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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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Sheeeesh! We have 500W of Halogen's in our kitchen. I like my light
at drafting quality ;-)

...Jim Thompson
That's not helpful.
We do have a second 20 in fluorescent above the sink and a bulb in the
hood over the oven.
I checked the 20 in tube it is 4100K, I'll see if she can live with
that temp.
Mikek
 
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Sylvia Else

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
We have a single bulb central in the kitchen that I hate in the
morning when I first get up to make my coffee. My wife usually is up
first and has the light on. I have taken to putting on sunglasses to
ease my pain. It is a 6500K, that's the problem.

It isn't clear that you've established that it's the colour temperature
she's concerned about or the brightness.

Sylvia.
 
Hi all,
We have a single bulb central in the kitchen that I hate in the
morning when I first get up to make my coffee. My wife usually is up
first and has the light on. I have taken to putting on sunglasses to
ease my pain. It is a 6500K, that's the problem.
The bulb burned out and I have resolved to find a happy medium
with the replacement.
The bulb was a 23 watt 6500K Model L23TM4/65K
Found a good sight for info;

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm...&sortParameter=brand_name&letter=ALL#tabletop

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm...&sortParameter=brand_name&letter=ALL#tabletop

I already have already installed a bulb from the closet.
It is a GE FLE26HT3/2/SW
Finally, found the color temp it is a 2700K.

I know she will not like it.

Here we go!

She just got home, she walked in and put stuff on the counter and
walked back out. She didn't say anything, maybe she won't notice.

Ahh, second trip in she said "oh, you replaced the light, I'll change it
tomorrow"

Ok, I knew it wouldn't fly so I'm back to finding a color temp we can
both live with. I suspect she has a bit of a cataract problem, so more
light is probably better, but 26 watts is about the highest wattage bulb
I've seen.

Right now we are between 2700K and 6500K.

The base is up in the fixture inside of a globe, I'd go LED if
it was not directional.

So any suggestions for a bulb that would make us both happy.

I plan on keeping the wife, but I guess I could move my coffee pot.


Mikek

There are many choices. Check out the HomeDespot or Lowes and such.
There are at least a dozen color temperatures, light output ratings,
and light quality ratings for these things. You'll probably go
through half of them before one of you gives up. ;-)

We only have a double 34W fixture in the kitchen (dumb - "high end"
kitchen with a cheap-assed contractor-grade fluorescent fixture) and
SWMBO was bitching about it being too dark to work. I replaced the
tubes with a couple of 6500K tubes I'd bought for the workshop. Now
she complains that it's too bright (and I bought a four-tube fixture
to replace it). I'll probably try her on 4000K tubes in the new
fixture.
 
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gregz

Jan 1, 1970
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amdx said:
Hi all,
We have a single bulb central in the kitchen that I hate in the morning
when I first get up to make my coffee. My wife usually is up first and
has the light on. I have taken to putting on sunglasses to ease my pain.
It is a 6500K, that's the problem.
The bulb burned out and I have resolved to find a happy medium
with the replacement.
The bulb was a 23 watt 6500K Model L23TM4/65K
Found a good sight for info;

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm...&sortParameter=brand_name&letter=ALL#tabletop

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm...&sortParameter=brand_name&letter=ALL#tabletop

I already have already installed a bulb from the closet.
It is a GE FLE26HT3/2/SW
Finally, found the color temp it is a 2700K.

I know she will not like it.

Here we go!

She just got home, she walked in and put stuff on the counter and
walked back out. She didn't say anything, maybe she won't notice.

Ahh, second trip in she said "oh, you replaced the light, I'll change it tomorrow"

Ok, I knew it wouldn't fly so I'm back to finding a color temp we can
both live with. I suspect she has a bit of a cataract problem, so more
light is probably better, but 26 watts is about the highest wattage bulb I've seen.

Right now we are between 2700K and 6500K.

The base is up in the fixture inside of a globe, I'd go LED if
it was not directional.

So any suggestions for a bulb that would make us both happy.

I plan on keeping the wife, but I guess I could move my coffee pot.


Mikek

I would think cataract would pride more glaring at high temp. I can't
handle high temps. Regardless of brightness, I can't see or think clearly.
The sun is ok, as the bandwidths are different.

Greg
 
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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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It isn't clear that you've established that it's the colour temperature
she's concerned about or the brightness.

Sylvia.

She thinks she likes the 6500K color.
 
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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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There are many choices. Check out the HomeDespot or Lowes and such.
There are at least a dozen color temperatures, light output ratings,
and light quality ratings for these things. You'll probably go
through half of them before one of you gives up. ;-)

We only have a double 34W fixture in the kitchen (dumb - "high end"
kitchen with a cheap-assed contractor-grade fluorescent fixture) and
SWMBO was bitching about it being too dark to work. I replaced the
tubes with a couple of 6500K tubes I'd bought for the workshop. Now
she complains that it's too bright (and I bought a four-tube fixture
to replace it). I'll probably try her on 4000K tubes in the new
fixture.
She was pissed that I replaced it with something she didn't like.
It turned into an argument and I just quit for the day.
Later I'll try something around 4100K and see if she changes that.
I a 6200K on my workbench that I like, but I don't use it first thing
out of bed.
 
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mike

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
We have a single bulb central in the kitchen that I hate in the morning
when I first get up to make my coffee. My wife usually is up first and
has the light on. I have taken to putting on sunglasses to ease my pain.
It is a 6500K, that's the problem.
The bulb burned out and I have resolved to find a happy medium
with the replacement.
The bulb was a 23 watt 6500K Model L23TM4/65K
Found a good sight for info;

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm...&sortParameter=brand_name&letter=ALL#tabletop


http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm...&sortParameter=brand_name&letter=ALL#tabletop


I already have already installed a bulb from the closet.
It is a GE FLE26HT3/2/SW
Finally, found the color temp it is a 2700K.

I know she will not like it.

Here we go!

She just got home, she walked in and put stuff on the counter and
walked back out. She didn't say anything, maybe she won't notice.

Ahh, second trip in she said "oh, you replaced the light, I'll change it
tomorrow"

Ok, I knew it wouldn't fly so I'm back to finding a color temp we can
both live with. I suspect she has a bit of a cataract problem, so more
light is probably better, but 26 watts is about the highest wattage bulb
I've seen.

Right now we are between 2700K and 6500K.

The base is up in the fixture inside of a globe, I'd go LED if
it was not directional.

So any suggestions for a bulb that would make us both happy.

I plan on keeping the wife, but I guess I could move my coffee pot.


Mikek

I've found that color temperature is bothersome at first, but you get used
to whatever it is.

I've had success using different temps in multi-bulb fixtures.

Never thought about it before, but why can't they put multiple phosphors
in a CFL and get broad spectrum output?

But the bottom line is that there's only one correct answer.
"Yes, dear."
 
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Sylvia Else

Jan 1, 1970
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I've found that color temperature is bothersome at first, but you get used
to whatever it is.

My experience was that the daylight (i.e. high colour temperature)
lighting seemed harsh at first, but now I can't stand the lower
temperatures that were, after all, only really created to simulate
incandescent lighting whose colour temperature would have been made
higher in the first place had it been technically feasible.

Sylvia.
 
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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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My experience was that the daylight (i.e. high colour temperature)
lighting seemed harsh at first, but now I can't stand the lower
temperatures that were, after all, only really created to simulate
incandescent lighting whose colour temperature would have been made
higher in the first place had it been technically feasible.

Sylvia.

I do get used to it, in fact I like it. I like it anytime
after 9am.
But I hate it at 6am when I first get out of bed.
I can make my coffee in the little bit of light from the window
with the curtain closed.
Mikek
 
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mike

Jan 1, 1970
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I do get used to it, in fact I like it. I like it anytime
after 9am.
But I hate it at 6am when I first get out of bed.
I can make my coffee in the little bit of light from the window
with the curtain closed.
Mikek
I have three 1.5W LED lamps.
One in the bathroom.
One in the living room.
One in the kitchen.
All run 24-7.
Rarely have to turn on anything else.
And I haven't tripped over anything in the dark since
I set it up.
 
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hamilton

Jan 1, 1970
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I have three 1.5W LED lamps.
One in the bathroom.
One in the living room.
One in the kitchen.

Are these outlet night lights ?

where did you find them ?

h
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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She thinks she likes the 6500K color.

IMHO, anything that blue-white makes butter look green, but I guess
SWMBO MBO. It depends a bit on the color scheme in the room- if the
walls are warm it can be less disgusting. When we bought our current
house, it had a couple rooms done in a light yellow that combined with
cool white fluorescent lamps to make a particularly ghastly glow.

OTOH, I think it is difficult to have a surfeit of lumens in a kitchen
or other work area.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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I do get used to it, in fact I like it. I like it anytime
after 9am.
But I hate it at 6am when I first get out of bed.
I can make my coffee in the little bit of light from the window
with the curtain closed.
Mikek


That's more than an hour and a half before sunrise here, so there
won't be much (natural) light coming through the window at 6am, just a
glow from the moon or orange light from zillions of sodium vapor lamps
(soon to be replaced by the whiter glow from zillions of LED
streetlamps in some kind of urban planning boondoggle).



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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mike

Jan 1, 1970
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Are these outlet night lights ?

where did you find them ?

h
Lights-Of-America Brand.
WalMart, Costco. ~$6 each.
I've seen 'em elsewhere, but at substantially higher cost.
http://www.amazon.com/Lights-America-2325LEDE12-LF4-24-2-Watt-Flametip/dp/B004CTVKWM
Looks like they're 2W now.
There are several generations.
Older ones have leaded LEDS that point up.
Newer ones have a stalk with SMT LEDS radiating
radially.
Come in different color temperatures. The specify the light
output on the package, but I didn't save it.
Some bad reviews on reliability of the LOA brand.
I've never had one fail.
 
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George Herold

Jan 1, 1970
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  I do get used to it, in fact I like it. I like it anytime
after 9am.
But I hate it at 6am when I first get out of bed.
I can make my coffee in the little bit of light from the window
with the curtain closed.
                            Mikek

How about if you install another light for yourself in the morning?

Keep your wife happy and she'll keep you happy, (at least in my
experience.)

George H.
 
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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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How about if you install another light for yourself in the morning?

Keep your wife happy and she'll keep you happy, (at least in my
experience.)

George H.
There are 3 other more comfortable lights in the kitchen, if she
hears me coming to the kitchen, she often will turn off the harsh, pain
inducing, 6500k light bulb for me. :) Now if she'd just make my coffee!
Mikek
 
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