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  1. steve

    steve Guest

    I was reading a web site that has information about light bulbs. Here
    is a quote relating to a question I wanted to ask.

    -- Quote ---
    "Reducing the voltage applied to a light bulb will reduce the filament
    temperature, resulting in a dramatic increase in life expectancy.
    One device sold to do this is an ordinary silicon diode built into a
    cap that is made to stick to the base of a light bulb. A diode lets
    current through in only one direction, causing the bulb to get power
    only 50 percent of the time if it is operated on AC. This effectively
    reduces the applied voltage by about 30 percent. (Reducing the voltage
    to its original value times the square root of .5 results in the same
    power consumption as applying full voltage half the time.) The life
    expectancy is increased very dramatically. However, the power
    consumption is reduced by about 40 percent (not 50 since the cooler
    filament has less resistance) and light output is reduced by reduced by
    about 70 percent (cooler filaments are less efficient at radiating
    visible light)."

    ---
    My question is really just a just wondering kind of question. I have no
    interest in doing this.

    I have seen the type of "Savings " devices written about above. Would
    the same thing be achieved if I simply took a diode of the proper
    rating and put it in line in one of the wires running to an
    incandescent light bulb?

    Thanks
     
  2. Ralph Mowery

    Ralph Mowery Guest

    Yes, you would get the same effect. Unless the bulb is in a hard to reach
    place you would be beter off just reducing the wattage of the bulb. The
    calculations I have seen (not verified) say you will save more on
    electricity than the extra bulb replacements will cost.
     
  3. Don Bruder

    Don Bruder Guest

    Yes, since that's precisely what's going on.

    However, you need to be particularly aware of the fact that, besides
    using roughly half the electricity, your bulb will also put out MUCH
    less light - IME, a 60 watt bulb with one of those things attached to it
    is reduced to about the output of a refrigerator bulb. Another
    consideration is the flicker-factor - The claim is that there will be no
    flicker, but I'll dispute that with my dying breath - Maybe for "Joe
    Average" there's no flicker, but to *MY* perception, it's there, highly
    apparent, and *EXTREMELY* distracting. Does that mean I've got "super
    vision"? <shrug> Idunno. All I can say for certain is that there is
    indeed some serious flicker, it'll drive me to distraction in about 20
    minutes, and if I don't leave the area, it will induce an all-out "I
    think I better go lock myself in a dark, soundproof, sealed, odorless,
    padded room with a drain to puke down for about the next three days so I
    don't end up killing myself or an innocent bystander" migraine within
    about an hour.

    And *DO NOT* try to use such a gizmo with *ANY* variation of the
    "replace your incandescent bulbs with our cooler, cheaper-to-run
    flourescent version" units on th market today - The failure of the
    ballast transformer when it gets fed DC instead of AC can be quite...
    Well, let's say "interesting" - If you consider having a lamp start
    spewing sparks and dribbling molten metal and plastic to be interesting,
    that is...

    (DAMHIKT...)
     
  4. steve

    steve Guest

    Thanks all for your comments.

    Yes I wondered the same thing about the flicker factor. I'm not sure
    how often the /\/\/\ waves alternate ( I know you all know this by
    heart, I'm a novice) but by cutting it in half or there abouts, has to
    have some effect. also I wonder out loud, if the half wave can set up
    some sort of resonance depending on the voltage of the bulb and give an
    annoying noise ??? I don't know only guessing.

    Thanks again
     
  5. Don Bruder

    Don Bruder Guest


    Usually 60 Hz (US), and 50 Hz (Europe) - If put to a speaker (through a
    suitable resistor, of course! Otherwise it's Insta-Fry(TM) time for Mr.
    Speaker) the socket in the wall would output a low, *LOUD* (unless the
    resistor was good and beefy) hum.
    I imagine it could be possible for a bulb's filament to start vibrating,
    possibly audibly, but I'd expect it to be an unusual situation, probably
    confined to specific bulbs from a specific batch of a specific brand.
    (AKA "I think the odds are against it, but I won't call it impossible.")
     
  6. Warren Weber

    Warren Weber Guest

    Steve.. I have done this (added diode in series) . Had a porch light that
    always had a short life. I installed diode and a higher wattage bulb to get
    the same brightness. No more problems. W W
     
  7. Guest

    Ive been told that you can also take 220 volt bulbs..in a suitable
    base... and feed them 110 volts to increase bulb longevity in a
    situation where bulb replacement is difficult.
     
  8. Much less VISIBLE light... a lot of it is downshifted to infra-red with
    the lower filament temperature. Might be OK if it's to be used with a
    security camera...?

    Easier just to pay the extra $ and buy a long-life bulb (with sturdier
    filament) in the 1st instance.

    TCM
     
  9. steve

    steve Guest

    Hey thanks nothing like experience to answer the question definitively.

    Regards
     
  10. redbelly

    redbelly Guest

    Warren, something you might consider is: the extra money you spend on
    electricity will more than offset your savings on bulb replacements.
    (Of course, that doesn't address the reduced hassle of making the
    replacement less often, so it may be worthwhile for you after all.)

    Regards,

    Mark
     
  11. Terry

    Terry Guest

    =>"Reducing the voltage applied to a light bulb... snip...

    Try this next Christmas.

    For those of us who like to put a little electric candle in every
    window of the house, try inserting a diode (1N4005 reccomended) in
    series with the "night-light" lamp. The fool things will last forever
    and they will look a lot more like real candles than blinding white
    points of light.

    In the cheap plastic affairs, the socket is usually just pressed into
    the upright stalk. Push it out with a long screwdriver, cut and solder
    in the diode to one wire (either one, any polarity), and press the
    socket back in place. Maybe a dab of glue to keep it from falling out
    later would be in order.

    Oh, yeah! Unplug the light before working on it.

    But you knew that, didn't you!

    Cheers--


    Terry--WB4FXD
    Edenton, NC
     
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