Digital TV In Australia

[Phil Allison]

"pedro"

Arr. **** off. I said usually numb nuts.

** Learn to bloody read - wog cretin.

The topic was **lightening** interference.

That can corrupt even the strongest signal.

It's usually the case when there's a freeze frame that the signal is weak.

** WRONG - that is *usually* a sign of a burst of EMI.

And so the digital signal is weak or corrupted, hence the freeze frame.

No.

** Grow up - wog idiot.

Right. When there's a weak signal as I said (or an interrupted signal) or
if the box is crappy and gets it's knickers in a knot, or is faulty- like
I said.

** Nothing to do with the topic of lightning.

You PITA dumb as dog shit, troll.




......... Phil

 

[Kill Phil]

......... Phil

The autistic toaster-boy from Summer Hill is back in classic form after a
week's treatment.

 

[Rhapsody]

"pedro"


** Learn to bloody read - wog cretin.

The topic was **lightening** interference.

That can corrupt even the strongest signal.




** WRONG - that is *usually* a sign of a burst of EMI.




** Grow up - wog idiot.




** Nothing to do with the topic of lightning.

You PITA dumb as dog shit, troll.




......... Phil

Thiz Phil guy, is reel personne? No jokink??

 

[Phil Allison]

"Rhapsody"

Thiz Phil guy, is reel personne? No jokink??

** One thing is for sure.

You are not.



......... Phil

 

[Rhapsody]

"Rhapsody"


** One thing is for sure.

You are not.



........ Phil

Haye theer, Mr Phil. Yoo arr reel! Yoo seam lik reel good guy. I cum
visitt wid yoo, yes? I brink big boddel.

Whair yoo liv, Mr Phil?

 

[Rob]

Kinky.

I'll second that motion.

 

[LDL]

Supposedly in 2008 we will lose the normal analogue 'free to air'
TV channels. They are then going to leave us with full digital TV
and that's about it.

One thought does arise from this and this may sound, and probably
even IS far fetched but could the use of Digital signals lead to direct
manipulation of content?

ie: editing of news items on the fly if they are of a sensitive nature....

Digital television is still using the same frequencies as the normal
analogue television but the carrier wave will contain the digital signal
rather than the both.

Digital television can come in standard definition and there are high
definition channels. The following channels are in High definition in the
major cities of Australia.

Channel 20 for Channel 2
Channel 30 for SBS 28
Channel 70 for Channel 7
Channel 90 for Channel 9
Channel 12 for Channel 10.

Digital television also has sub-channels that most television stations can
utilise as the second camera channel for major sporting events. Channel 21
is the ABC-2 and Channel 31 is the SBS News. Both government stations also
has a few channels that is broadcasting the radio.

For more info try this: http://www.dba.org.au/

 

[The Real Andy]

"David L. Jones"


** I still cannot find any true "digital antennas" on sale in Sydney.

That is, one that covers channels 6 - 12 VHF and 28 - 69 UHF - eg Hills
have them in their trade only catalogue.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a digital antenna? Would I be correct
in assuming that the digital bands are outside of the normal analog
range of channels/antennas?

 

[LDL]

"David L. Jones"


** I still cannot find any true "digital antennas" on sale in Sydney.

That is, one that covers channels 6 - 12 VHF and 28 - 69 UHF - eg
Hills have them in their trade only catalogue.

All the shops and antenna installers want to sell you a full VHF/UHF job.

Big and UGLY !

All antennas can receive digital broadcast because the initial carrier wave
is exactly the same. The only difference between the digital antenna and
the regular is that the digital has a larger gain for those bad reception
areas.

Instead of snow for poor reception you get problems such as the sound
processor turning off, pixalation of the pictore or the picture will drop
off entirely.

My "bleeding obvious" guess that the reception that is furtherest away from
the transmitters will be susceptible hence why a digital antenna is the
better choice. Also the choice of cables because they can also cause the
signal to drop. There are grades for digital reception.

 

[LDL]

May not be better when there is the slightest thunderstorm in the
area.

Had no problems at all in Melb Metro during slight or severe thunderstorm.

 

[Phil Allison]

"The Real Andy"
"Phil Allison"

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a digital antenna?

** Must have wanked himself completely blind.

LOL




......... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"LDL"

Digital television is still using the same frequencies as the normal
analogue television but the carrier wave will contain the digital signal
rather than the both.

Digital television can come in standard definition and there are high
definition channels. The following channels are in High definition in the
major cities of Australia.

Channel 20 for Channel 2
Channel 30 for SBS 28
Channel 70 for Channel 7
Channel 90 for Channel 9
Channel 12 for Channel 10.

** LDL has mixed up the facts quite a bit.

The channel numbers he quotes above are the new, agreed digital channel
numbers - NOTHING to do with the official analogue FREQUENCY related
ones that have been around for decades.

In reality:

ABC uses analogue Ch 12 for SD, HD and ABC2.

Channel 7 uses analogue Ch 6 for SD and HD.

Channel 9 uses analogue Ch 8 for SD and HD.

Channel 10 uses analogue Ch 11 for SD and HD.

SBS uses analogue Ch 34 for SD, HD and SBS 2.

( Channel 31 is an analogue signal only )

Each old analogue channel can accommodate 2 x SD and 1 x HD signal
simultaneously.





......... Phil

 

[two bob]

** I still cannot find any true "digital antennas" on sale in Sydney.

That is, one that covers channels 6 - 12 VHF and 28 - 69 UHF - eg
Hills have them in their trade only catalogue.

Why are the trade buying them if it's not to resell them to the retail
trade?

 

[David L. Jones]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a digital antenna? Would I be correct
in assuming that the digital bands are outside of the normal analog
range of channels/antennas?

Digial TV can have channels outside what normal analog TV antenna are
designed for.
In Sydney the ABC on digital for instance is on CH12 instead of CH2.
Many older analog VHF antenna can have significant loss of gain on
CH12. "Digital" antenna are simply designed for these channels.
See www.dba.org.au for the channel allocation.

There are also "log periodic" digital antenna that claim to achieve
lower bit error rate on digital TV, at the expense of gain.

Dave

 

[two bob]

** I still cannot find any true "digital antennas" on sale in Sydney.

** Must have wanked himself completely blind.

LOL

Whos wanking, he has a genuine question that you obviously cant answer. Is
the digital aerial made of digital aluminium? I know I did my apprenticeship
more years ago than I would like to admit, but I was under the impression
that aerials worked on carrier wavelength.

 

[Phil Allison]

"two bob"

Whos wanking, he has a genuine question that you obviously cant answer.

** I dont believe this.

Is there a blindness epidemic ??





.......... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"two bob"

Why are the trade buying them....

** I see no sign they are.




.......... Phil

 

[Kill Phil]

"two bob"


** I see no sign they are.

That's because you are looking into the entrails of the wrong chook.

 

[Kill Phil]

"two bob"



** I dont believe this.

Is there a blindness epidemic ??

Only became apparent after you arrived.

You must be a carrier...

 

[pedro]

Pliz not to endink ov tha sentanse wid an PREPOSITION.

Orrr so..! velly solly.