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POWERMOS

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi, I'm searching for this book.

It's seems untrovable, someone could help me?

This is the reference:

"Design of oscillator and other harmonic oscillators " by Benjamin
Parzen (Published by John Wiley and Sons) ISBN 0-471-08819-6

Thanks for help.

Fabio
 
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POWERMOS

Jan 1, 1970
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Terry Given said:
bugger that. see my hartley/colpitts post.

Cheers
Terry

I've see it... tnx a lot if you can help me :)

Fabio
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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John_H wrote...

Sheesh, 12 seller copies, and the price is from $153 to $750, with 10
sellers (83%) over $275 and *half* of them over $680? !!??

Gaaarrwwkk! Whew, I'm glad I already have a copy. Damn! What's the
matter with these guys, anyway? Do they all want to hold on to their
inventory forever? Sure they look at each other's prices, but just
as a signal to *raise* their own price? I was always told efficient
competition was supposed to lower the prices!! Sheesh on a stick!

It seems there's a new rule a-foot for limited-quantity items, raise
the price until nobody will buy. What's the world coming to anyway?
 
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POWERMOS

Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield Hill said:
John_H wrote...

Sheesh, 12 seller copies, and the price is from $153 to $750, with 10
sellers (83%) over $275 and *half* of them over $680? !!??

Gaaarrwwkk! Whew, I'm glad I already have a copy. Damn! What's the
matter with these guys, anyway? Do they all want to hold on to their
inventory forever? Sure they look at each other's prices, but just
as a signal to *raise* their own price? I was always told efficient
competition was supposed to lower the prices!! Sheesh on a stick!

It seems there's a new rule a-foot for limited-quantity items, raise
the price until nobody will buy. What's the world coming to anyway?

I'm totally agree with you, this is a very good book for learning, and I
think, may be a good idea from editor to keep it free of charge or almost
keep it in PDF protected format, but is very sad that isn't distribuite a
copy of this book, this bring only a things, a loss in knowledge!

Bye
fabio
 
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Charles Schuler

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm totally agree with you, this is a very good book for learning, and I
think, may be a good idea from editor to keep it free of charge or almost
keep it in PDF protected format, but is very sad that isn't distribuite a
copy of this book, this bring only a things, a loss in knowledge!

Fabio, you should have posted the fact that you are looking for a free book.
I don't know what you do for a living, but surely you place some value on
your time. Folks who invest their time in writing books expect but rarely
enjoy compensation for their efforts. Are you a communist?

"I really need this stuff... thanks for help." is what you wrote and that
puzzles me.
 
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POWERMOS

Jan 1, 1970
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Charles Schuler said:
Fabio, you should have posted the fact that you are looking for a free book.
I don't know what you do for a living, but surely you place some value on
your time. Folks who invest their time in writing books expect but rarely
enjoy compensation for their efforts. Are you a communist?

"I really need this stuff... thanks for help." is what you wrote and that
puzzles me.

Hei, sorry but this is a miss-uderstading, my idea is not for free book or
stole it or hack it in some way...
I've write lot of notes for my tutorate on university for my student for
free, just for passion... usually I buy all the book, but i this way this is
a old book and also a good one, I'm try to buy it, but this one is very
expensive for me... I just talk about publisher about some pdf copy or with
a price below the hardcover book in PDF format... that's all...

sincerely
Fabio
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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POWERMOS wrote...
Winfield Hill wrote...

I'm totally agree with you, this is a very good book for learning, and I
think, may be a good idea from editor to keep it free of charge or almost
keep it in PDF protected format, but is very sad that isn't distribuite a
copy of this book, this bring only a things, a loss in knowledge!

Well, I don't argue for that at all. There is no "editor" but only a
publisher, Wiley-Interscience, who published the book under a contract
agreement in 1983 with the author, Benjamin Parzen, about 23 years ago.
It's likely Benjamin Parzen would like to see his book available once
again, and if Wiley isn't interested, he may be able to recapture the
copyright from them and seek a new publisher. There's a new method of
dealing with older books that have a lower sales rate: print on demand.
Benjamin Parzin's book may already be available that way, or Wiley or
someone else could make it so. Typically prices are in the $100-$200
range, which is more affordable than 80% of the old used copies.

Aha! Google reveals that members of the IEEE UFFC Society can read the
book online. http://www.ieee-uffc.org/digarchive.asp?book=bk10toc.htm
 
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Terry Given

Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield said:
POWERMOS wrote...



Well, I don't argue for that at all. There is no "editor" but only a
publisher, Wiley-Interscience, who published the book under a contract
agreement in 1983 with the author, Benjamin Parzen, about 23 years ago.
It's likely Benjamin Parzen would like to see his book available once
again, and if Wiley isn't interested, he may be able to recapture the
copyright from them and seek a new publisher. There's a new method of
dealing with older books that have a lower sales rate: print on demand.
Benjamin Parzin's book may already be available that way, or Wiley or
someone else could make it so. Typically prices are in the $100-$200
range, which is more affordable than 80% of the old used copies.

Aha! Google reveals that members of the IEEE UFFC Society can read the
book online. http://www.ieee-uffc.org/digarchive.asp?book=bk10toc.htm

Hi Win,

did you get the 20-CD UFFC compilation they offered a couple of years
back? I did, its kept me busy (and fairly confused) for a long time :)

Cheers
Terry
 
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Terry Given

Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield said:
John_H wrote...



Sheesh, 12 seller copies, and the price is from $153 to $750, with 10
sellers (83%) over $275 and *half* of them over $680? !!??

Gaaarrwwkk! Whew, I'm glad I already have a copy. Damn! What's the
matter with these guys, anyway? Do they all want to hold on to their
inventory forever? Sure they look at each other's prices, but just
as a signal to *raise* their own price? I was always told efficient
competition was supposed to lower the prices!! Sheesh on a stick!

It seems there's a new rule a-foot for limited-quantity items, raise
the price until nobody will buy. What's the world coming to anyway?

alas, its pretty common.

a few years back I spotted Zieglers tome "gyrodynamics". I was quite
interested, but the shop wanted $200 for it - their excuse was "thats
what its worth online"

3 years later, they sold it to me for $40. I successfully argued that
the book is worth precisely what someone is prepared to pay, and that
all this time they were paying rent....

I also got a beautiful (but alas incomplete) set of the "Encyclopaedia
of Mathematics and its applications" for $200 - 14 tomes. They wanted
between $40 and $80 each. I have since been searching for the remaining
volumes....

last night I bought a couple of books:
14575736-1 Radio Direction Finders, Bond 18.94
14575736-2 Microwave Electronics, 2.95
14575736-3 Microwave Transmission, Slater 6.90
14575736-4 Radar Scanners and Radomes, Cady, Karelitz & Turner 4.95
14575736-5 Micro-Waves and Wave Guides, Barlow 9.89
14575736-6 Transmission Lines Antennas and Wave Guides, King 7.95
14575736-7 Short Wave Wireless Communication 4th Ed, Ladner 9.43
14575736-8 Microwave Antenna Theory & Design, Silver 31.00
(my first rad-lab book :)

14575736-9 Wave Guides, 3rd Edition, Lamont 9.51
14575736-10 Aerials for Centimetre Wave-Lengths, Fry & Goward 24.95
14575736-11 Transmission-line theory 13.95
14575736-12 Aeronautical Radio Engineering, Sandretto 7.95
14575736-13 Micro-Wave Measurements, Barlow 5.19
14575736-14 Aerials for Metre and Decimetre Wave-Lengths, Smith 9.68

shipping was almost as much as the books. I'd just read H. Paul Williams
Antenna design vol.2, so went thru the bibliography.


Cheers
Terry
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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Terry Given wrote...
Hi Win,

Did you get the 20-CD UFFC compilation they offered a couple of years
back? I did, its kept me busy (and fairly confused) for a long time :)

I saw that but didn't get a copy. Isn't that still available? It's
probably worth a small fortune to anyone who uses piezo-whatever, as
most of us do in one way or another...
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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Terry Given wrote...
last night I bought a couple of books:
14575736-1
14575736-2
14575736-3 ....

What are those 14575736-x numbers?
 
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Scott Newell

Jan 1, 1970
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Terry said:
last night I bought a couple of books:
14575736-1 Radio Direction Finders, Bond 18.94
14575736-2 Microwave Electronics, 2.95
14575736-3 Microwave Transmission, Slater 6.90
14575736-4 Radar Scanners and Radomes, Cady, Karelitz & Turner 4.95
14575736-5 Micro-Waves and Wave Guides, Barlow 9.89
14575736-6 Transmission Lines Antennas and Wave Guides, King 7.95
14575736-7 Short Wave Wireless Communication 4th Ed, Ladner 9.43
14575736-8 Microwave Antenna Theory & Design, Silver 31.00
(my first rad-lab book :)

It sure would be nice if MIT would scan the series and place it online.
(I wonder who has the rights to the series, anyway?)

Hmm, it looks like someone has it in .pdf, just not accessible:
http://www.jlab.org/ir/MITSeries.html
 
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Robert Baer

Jan 1, 1970
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POWERMOS said:
Thanks for link, I've found from other place the Amazon link, but price is
very high for me...
I hope someone could have a electronic copy for this book, I've also try a
search from the
publication web site without found some copy, this is sad, a very good book
that is not
reacheable....

Thanks for reply
fabio
Most libraries will do an Intra-library loan and pull fromup to 5
nearby states...
 
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

Jan 1, 1970
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John_H wrote...

Sheesh, 12 seller copies, and the price is from $153 to $750, with 10
sellers (83%) over $275 and *half* of them over $680? !!??

Gaaarrwwkk! Whew, I'm glad I already have a copy. Damn! What's the
matter with these guys, anyway? Do they all want to hold on to their
inventory forever? Sure they look at each other's prices, but just
as a signal to *raise* their own price? I was always told efficient
competition was supposed to lower the prices!! Sheesh on a stick!

It seems there's a new rule a-foot for limited-quantity items, raise
the price until nobody will buy. What's the world coming to anyway?

Can you say, "Hell in a handbasket"? ;-P

Cheers!
Rich
 
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Rich Grise

Jan 1, 1970
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Most libraries will do an Intra-library loan and pull fromup to 5
nearby states...

Do they also do that in Italy? ;-)

Thanks,
Rich
 
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