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Design for infrared light healer (from Wired) published anywhere?

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  1. Guest

    I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
    light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
    this Wired magazine article:

    http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,60786,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

    The principle looks pretty simple, you have one or more high output LED's
    flashing at the 680-, 730- and 880-nanometer wavelength. Seems like
    something that could be put together in kit form and sold for five or ten
    bucks (unless those LED's are really expensive). So my question is, does
    anyone know of available plans (or a kit) for something like this?

    Please reply in the group; the e-mail address is NOT valid. Thanks.
     
  2. Ian Stirling

    Ian Stirling Guest

    My first question would not be how to build it, but where is a peer-reviewed
    double-blind trial that shows positive benefits.
     
  3. Treating the retina only needs a few LEDs, but treating a larger area
    such as a patch of skin would require many, many LEDs, making it
    expensive.

    Seems that it would be easier to put a filter in front of sunlight and
    expose the body to that filtered light. The filter would remove the
    UV and light wavelengths to keep the patient from getting sunburned
    and overheated. The light is free, a lot cheaper than IR LEDs.


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  4. The article said that such studies had already been done. Even so,
    plain old sunlight (in moderate doses) has been used for millenia to
    help heal patients. Seems to me that these gizmos are just a way to
    bring a facsimile of sunlight inside.


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  5. Jerry G.

    Jerry G. Guest

    From what I perceive, that if you were to make an array of IR LED's such
    that are used on TV remotes, this will work for you. I am under the
    impression that a simple DC source should do it. You would have to use the
    proper value series resistor to each LED to match to the feed voltage. This
    should be very simple to do. It is also speculated that most any IR light
    source should work for this. In the past it has been said that the rays
    from the sun can heal many things.

    If you do a search under this topic, hundreds of sites about this will show
    up. They are mostly all referring to credible references.

    As for the eyes, I would not start pointing light sources of any kind
    directly in to them without seriously knowing the safety factors involved
    and the effect of the particular wavelength characteristics, with the
    particular light source. You may end up doing more damage than not.


    The links below look interesting.

    http://www.thorlaser.com/wound/how-does-it-work.htm

    http://garm.dyndns.org/whelan_lab/01/html/ /whelan.html


    One thing I noticed, I used to have a troublesome wart on my hand. One time
    I was playing around with a laser pointer. I was shining it at the wart for
    a while and being fascinated about how the light was reflecting from it.
    About a week later, it went away! I have no idea if this was from the
    laser pointer, or from the medication that I put on it... Next time, if it
    returns, I will have to try it again without the medication.


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    I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
    light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
    this Wired magazine article:

    http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,60786,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

    The principle looks pretty simple, you have one or more high output LED's
    flashing at the 680-, 730- and 880-nanometer wavelength. Seems like
    something that could be put together in kit form and sold for five or ten
    bucks (unless those LED's are really expensive). So my question is, does
    anyone know of available plans (or a kit) for something like this?

    Please reply in the group; the e-mail address is NOT valid. Thanks.
     
  6. Chuck Harris

    Chuck Harris Guest

    Duct tape has been proven to be more effective than either cryo removal,
    or any of the wart remover medicines.

    Just clean the wart with soap and water, and cover it completely with
    duct tape. Leave it on, replace when it gets yucky. In a week, or so,
    the wart will be all gone.

    -Chuck
     
  7. If it returns, is it really healed?
     
  8. Dontcha know the home remedy for warts? You cut a notch in a stick and
    rub it on the wart, and bury it. This works, because much of the healing
    is psychosomatic.

    A guy I knew had a wart on his knee, so he went to the college's health
    center and they doused it with liquid nitrogen and put a bandage over
    it. A few days later, the blister broke, and the liquid dribbled down
    his leg, and you could see where it ran by the tiny new warts growing
    along its path. :-(

    Skip down and read the one that all in CAPITALS.
    http://www.otan.us/webfarm/emailproject/warts.htm
     
  9. René

    René Guest

    I remember a distant past where in many houshold a so called
    "InfraPhil" lamp was present, basically a deep red incandescent
    spotlight made by Philips. Was supposed to do good with backaches and
    such.

    I guess one is getting really old if inventions are crossing one's
    path for the second time....
     
  10. pkh

    pkh Guest

    The article says nothing about a double blind test with placebo on humans.

    Sounds like another miracle bracelet or magnetic therapy product to me!

    Paul
     
  11. Mark Jones

    Mark Jones Guest

    In news:bob2ra$q7j$ (Chuck Harris):
    Did that, had a stubborn wart that would not respond to salacylic acid. It
    gets painful to keep covered constantly, I recommend 6 out of 7 days. Also
    don't be surprised if it takes longer than a week. Mine took about a month.
    But at least it's gone!
     
  12. Mark Jones

    Mark Jones Guest

    In (Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark
    Remover"):

    Sheesh! I'm surprised moon rock dust and bat essence wasn't suggested as a
    viable treatment. :)
     
  13. Ian Stirling

    Ian Stirling Guest

    The articles "other links" at the bottom did not raise my expectations of
    science accuracy from this publication.
     
  14. ChronoFish

    ChronoFish Guest

    Scientific Frontiers (the Nova-like show on PBS by Scientific American)
    recently showed using Lasers to remove tattoos. There was little to no pain
    experience by the patient so I would think that a focused LED may be able to
    provide similar results. It also proved useful for removing "gang
    branding". The simple procedures were begin done in Boston.

    I wasn't able to find links to what I think I saw (maybe it was a different
    show) but How Stuff Works as quick blurb about it here.

    http://people.howstuffworks.com/tattoo-removal4.htm
     
  15. N. Thornton

    N. Thornton Guest

    how bout a torch?

    Yes thats what I was thinking. Also there was the ultra violet lamp,
    using a mercury discharge tube. Theyre good for sterilising stuff, and
    no-one wants them. Just beware the hopelessly inadequate goggles.

    BTW, glacial acetic acid is the best thing for warts.


    Regards, NT
     
  16. I watched Sci Am Frontiers the other night and they had none other than
    Paul Horowitz, of AoE fame, plugging their SETI project where they
    (Hahvahd) are looking for a planet with life.
     
  17. Neil

    Neil Guest

    As a Canadian I feel that this must be said.
    In the immortal words of Red Green........

    "Duct Tape...is there anything it cant do?"

    Kim
     
  18. I have an electric heating pad that works quite well.

    I'd guess that an LED would be easier for applying IR to a retina,
    although this isn't something I'd play around with without medical
    supervision. The principles are probably similar. Warming an area up
    increases local blood flow and speeds healing.
     
  19. Wim Ton

    Wim Ton Guest

    I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
    Philips sells similar things for 40 years under the name Infraphil,
    basically a lamp with a filter.

    Wim
     
  20. N. Thornton

    N. Thornton Guest


    How on earth does that work then? Anyone know the mecanism?

    Regards, NT
     
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