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Noise Bird

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi!
I am looking for a DC to >100MHz wideband amp, single supply circuit to
build to digitaly drive a PIC microcontroller.
It would be great to have one circuit, but not absolutely necessary.
Even hints using available ICs would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
 
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Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi!
I am looking for a DC to >100MHz wideband amp, single supply circuit to
build to digitaly drive a PIC microcontroller.
It would be great to have one circuit, but not absolutely necessary.
Even hints using available ICs would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

I don't exactly know what you mean by "digitally drive a PIC..."
Maybe the LM6702 would suit your needs?

--Mac
 
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Walter Harley

Jan 1, 1970
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Noise Bird said:
Hi!
I am looking for a DC to >100MHz wideband amp, single supply circuit to
build to digitaly drive a PIC microcontroller.

What gain?

What input impedance?

What DC offset voltage is acceptable?

How close does the signal need to get to the rails?

What do you mean by "digitally drive"?

What supply voltage?
 
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Tim Shoppa

Jan 1, 1970
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am looking for a DC to >100MHz
wideband amp, single supply circuit

The jellybeam solution for small signals is a MMIC. It'll have way
more bandwidth than you need. But they're pretty much unconditionally
stable by themselves.

You said DC, but didn't say anything about gain, voltage ranges, etc.,
so I feel justified in recommending the MMIC :). Biasing the input
will be your problem.
to build to digitaly drive a PIC microcontroller.

I have no clue what this phrase means. Are you building a frequency
counter maybe? There are a lot of examples of input-conditioning
circuits for frequency counters on the web. Some of them even work!

Tim.
 
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Noise Bird

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks for your message.
I'm finally getting back to this.
Sorry I wasn't clearer before.

The input will be about 100Mv Hi impeadance, say 100K and the out put
is to drive a TTL input to a counter.
So the offset is negligble as long as the output swings from roughly
ground to 3.5v, TTL levels.
The available supply is 5 to 6VdDC 100Ma.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Dave
 
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Noise Bird

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks for your message, Mac.
I'm finally getting back to this.
Sorry I wasn't clearer before.

The input will be about 100Mv Hi impeadance, say 100K and the out put
is to drive a TTL input to a counter.
So the offset is negligble as long as the output swings from roughly
ground to 3.5v, TTL levels.
The available supply is 5 to 6VdDC 100Ma.

I'll look into the LM6702

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Dave
 
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Noise Bird

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks for your message, Tim.
I'm finally getting back to this.
Sorry I wasn't clearer before.

The input will be about 100Mv Hi impeadance, say 100K and the out put
is to drive a TTL input to a counter.
So the offset is negligble as long as the output swings from roughly
ground to 3.5v, TTL levels.
The available supply is 5 to 6VdDC 100Ma.

I gave the MMIC a look, but need to spend more time researching it.
Plus search for counter input circuits as you mentioned.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Dave
 
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Jim

Jan 1, 1970
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Noise Bird said:
The input will be about 100Mv Hi impeadance, say 100K and the out put
is to drive a TTL input to a counter.
So the offset is negligble as long as the output swings from roughly
ground to 3.5v, TTL levels.
The available supply is 5 to 6VdDC 100Ma.


You might want to investigate the Linear Technology IC
LT1016 which we use as a squaring circuit for a low level sine wave

I am not certain as to it's upper frequency limit, but in general it would
serve as a sine to TTL converter nicely.

Of course, you might want to make a FET follower to keep the RF input
high impedance.


Jim Pennell
 
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Jonathan Westhues

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
You might want to investigate the Linear Technology IC
LT1016 which we use as a squaring circuit for a low level sine wave

He said 100 MHz from 100k. With the LT1016's 3.5 pF input capacitance that
gives a -3dB frequency of 455 kHz. But I doubt that he means that.

Jonathan
 
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colin

Jan 1, 1970
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Noise Bird said:
Thanks for your message.
I'm finally getting back to this.
Sorry I wasn't clearer before.

The input will be about 100Mv Hi impeadance, say 100K and the out put
is to drive a TTL input to a counter.
So the offset is negligble as long as the output swings from roughly
ground to 3.5v, TTL levels.
The available supply is 5 to 6VdDC 100Ma.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Dave

would a cmos inverter do ?
maybe a simple level shifter to get the input to about half the supply
voltage.

Colin =^.^=
 
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Jim

Jan 1, 1970
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Jonathan Westhues said:
He said 100 MHz from 100k. With the LT1016's 3.5 pF input capacitance that
gives a -3dB frequency of 455 kHz. But I doubt that he means that.

Jonathan


OUCH. Yep, 3.5 pF would be a problem. We are using it at 10 MHz,
and for our
purposes, the sensitivity is quite good. Although, we do use an input
filter network
and I will analyze it to see if we are absorbing the 3.5 pF into the filter.


Jim
 
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Fred Bartoli

Jan 1, 1970
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Jonathan Westhues said:
He said 100 MHz from 100k. With the LT1016's 3.5 pF input capacitance that
gives a -3dB frequency of 455 kHz. But I doubt that he means that.

Unless some _very_ special case, it can't be 100k @ 100MHz : this is only
0.016pF

He'd better refine his specifications.
 
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Fred Bloggs

Jan 1, 1970
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Fred said:
Unless some _very_ special case, it can't be 100k @ 100MHz : this is only
0.016pF

He'd better refine his specifications.

Or maybe he is unfamiliar with the concept of a comparator and is using
the 5th harmonic rule for reproduction of a 20MHz pulse train- but even
then 100K seems high- and notice that DC makes no sense at all since he
mentions nothing about level or gain into the PIC- just anything that
crosses logic thresholds.
 
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