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Dammit.. How to get 2 zones and power from a 4-conductor

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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Crash Gordon said:
so which is more cost effective, swapping board and reprogramming or using
your existing 4 cond. as a pull line and just repulling new 6 ?

If you value your time its cheaper to swap the board. Hands down.

I've stayed away from this thread because You can never tell a client about
possibilities or options without putting it in writing that it is EXTRA as
an OPTION and putting a specific price on it or they expect if for free or
as part of the basic setup price.

Also, if you give them too many options their brain locks up, and they don't
buy at all.


--
Sincerly,
The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
Bob La Londe

The Security Consultant
Bob La Londe - Owner
P.O. Box 5720
Yuma, Az 85366

(928) 782-9765 ofc
(928) 782-7873 fax

Licensed Contractor
ROC103044 & ROC103047
 
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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Bud said:
been there done that. live and learn. good luck

Oh, shit. Run away. Give him the system and run away.

I believe in providing good quality service to those who are willing to pay
for it. To those who aren't they can try and suck in some other new guy to
the industry who hasn't learned better yet.




--
Sincerly,
The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
Bob La Londe

The Security Consultant
Bob La Londe - Owner
P.O. Box 5720
Yuma, Az 85366

(928) 782-9765 ofc
(928) 782-7873 fax

Licensed Contractor
ROC103044 & ROC103047
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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So...just tell him you don't provide tamper service for a local
account...it's GONNA be a pita for you anyway you know that right?



| Bud wrote:
|
| >
| >| >> So I just finished this job with 5 home-run motions to the CP. As I
| >> was doing training I told him about the tamper switches on the motions
| >> IS25100TC (front and back) that I wired in series with the alarm
| >> contacts. He thought that was great - then added, "so I'll be able to
| >> know right away when someone knocks the thing off the wall, right?".
| >> Of course the answer is 'no'. I never planned on putting the tampers
| >> on a separate 24 hour zone - otherwise I would have run 6 conductor.
| >> Now he wants that "feature", and the trick for sharing a 'common' wire
| >> for power and zone won't work as far as I can tell. Am I correct, or
| >> is there a way to do it without running more wire?
| >>
| >
| >correct me if I'm wrong. you said the motions are tampered to the wall
and
| >the cover. so if a motion gets knocked off the wall the zone will be
open.
| >this will alert the owner of the problem. if so then you have no
problem.
| >do not think the owner has the tech expertise that you possess. he
doesn't
| >know about tamper zones or deol. don't make your job harder by assuming
he
| >does. he just needs to know that if a zone is faulted to go check it to
see
| >whats wrong. right?
| >
|
|
| It's a strange situation. This is the same one I posted about with
| the $500 budget.
|
| It's a mini-storage. The manager lives on-site. We finally agreed
| (grudgingly) that a noisemaker would sound if someone ( or a bird,
| roach, or spider) was in the 3-story building I would provide a loud
| noise. That's it. I do not consider this a security system at all..
| I used the Vista-15P panel purely because it's logic ability that
| could not be replicated cheaper with relays.
|
| Our agreement was that this thing WILL false alarm, and often. It is
| not monitored or course. Now he want's to catch vandals in real time
| - with my PIR's as bait. That was never part of the deal. I am
| already losing money on this shit. I should have never done it.
|
| The whole issue with tampers came up when I was doing the training. I
| told him that they are tampered front and back - he thought that was
| great and assumed a tamper situation meant he would be alerted during
| the day.
 
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alarman

Jan 1, 1970
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Nelson said:
Yeah.. I was going to charge $100 every time I gotta replace one.

$100 for the service call maybe. Plus parts and labor. Good luck.
js
 
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alarman

Jan 1, 1970
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Nelson said:
The part is $25. I can drive to the site in 15 minutes. He just
called me.

I told him I'll swap the panel for $100.

You have a lot to learn, bud.
js
 
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Bud

Jan 1, 1970
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Nelson Muntz said:
I know.. That's what I've been asking for.

you'll be alright, grasshopper. you're getting the best education now.
school of hard knocks. just keep the $ flowing & try keep trying to get
more. ;)
 
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Bud

Jan 1, 1970
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Nelson Muntz said:
This is going to be harder than I thought it would.

I did alot of sub work and even remodeling jobs till I got my base built up.
got alot of business through contacts made subbing. it'll pay off if you
stick with it.
 
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Doug

Jan 1, 1970
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Are you sure it wasn't "I thought it was going to be harder than that"

Doug

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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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if youre going to fantasize about violence
and preferably involving innovative uses for
everyday unassuming tools or natural objects

Like crayons, for example? :^)
 
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