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  1. Jan 23, 2013 #1
    Yoshidk

    Yoshidk

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    Hello everyone

    I have a circuit where my µC (ATmega16) triggers a transistor (ULN2001) to open for a LED
    I know i need a resistor between the ATmega16 output and transistor base to limit the current, but i cant figure out which resistor value would be best?
    I guess too low would waste power, and too high might kill the signal..

    I made a simple drawing of the setup here:
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    Datasheets:
    ATMega16:
    http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/atmel/2545S.pdf
    ULN2001:
    http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHNICAL_RESOURCES/TECHNICAL_LITERATURE/DATASHEET/CD00001244.pdf
     
  2. Jan 23, 2013 #2
    Harald Kapp

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    Ibase= Iled/beta.
    Iled~10.4V/330 Ohm = 30mA (assuming red LED with Vf~1.6V)
    beta ~60 (from the transistor datasheet for Ic=50mA)
    => Ibase= 500µA
    Ibase= (Vh(cpu)-Vbe)/R2.
    Vh = 4.5V (the ATmega should be able to deliver that voltage worst case at Vcc=5V and 500µA)
    Vbe = 0.6V
    => R2=3.9V/500µA = 7800 Ohm.

    To ensure that the transistor is saturated under worst case conditions use the next lower standard value, e.g. 7500 Ohm.

    You can get a quick and dirty estimate from R2=R1*beta*V1/V2 (this neglects base-emitter voltage, Vf of the LED, VoH of the ATmega, but comes close).
     
  3. Jan 26, 2013 #3
    KrisBlueNZ

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    The ULN2003 and ULN2004 have base current limiting resistors built in. The 2004 is probably the most suitable if you're just driving LEDs with it.
     
  4. Jan 26, 2013 #4
    Harald Kapp

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    I obviously I overlooked that note saying ULN2001 and only looked at the 2N3904. My fault. Kris is right concerning the ULN IC.
     
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