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Spob

Jan 1, 1970
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Sitting at a gas station as some backwards baseball cap and saggass
britches wearing kid parks in the fire zone in front of the store with
some fukdamuhfukinniggahbeyotch crap blasting out of his truck for
everyone's entertainment, got me to thinking.

Would it be possible to build a gizmo that could be surreptitiously
aimed at the offending stereo system to fry some crucial components?
It would have to be able to do it on a pretty localized basis without
causing damage to the person aiming the gizmo or innocent bystanders
or their car's electronics. Whether it would fry any additional
components of said target punk's car isn't of great concern.

Call it The Rapper Zapper.

Just wonderin'.

:)
 
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William R. Walsh

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi!

I don't know about building a dedicated device, nor am I sure I like the
aspect of damaging something that isn't mine, but...I know what you're
saying.

If you were close enough, and they happened to be listening to over-the-air
FM radio, you could try a low power FM transmitter. Some of them do have
surprisingly good range and can cover/distort an existing station when close
enough to the receiver. I've got one that seems to be able to go about 30
feet or so.

Then there is the direct (and bold) approach--walk over, reach in through
the window and turn the thing off. Or if you're feeling vindictive, pull a
small mallet out of your pocket and thoroughly bash in the head unit. But I
didn't say that. ;-)

William
 
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Jon Slaughter

Jan 1, 1970
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Spob said:
Sitting at a gas station as some backwards baseball cap and saggass
britches wearing kid parks in the fire zone in front of the store with
some fukdamuhfukinniggahbeyotch crap blasting out of his truck for
everyone's entertainment, got me to thinking.

Would it be possible to build a gizmo that could be surreptitiously
aimed at the offending stereo system to fry some crucial components?
It would have to be able to do it on a pretty localized basis without
causing damage to the person aiming the gizmo or innocent bystanders
or their car's electronics. Whether it would fry any additional
components of said target punk's car isn't of great concern.

Call it The Rapper Zapper.

Just wonderin'.

:)

This would be awesome!!! But why shouldn't it be aimed at the person too?
 
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Jumpster Jiver

Jan 1, 1970
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Spob said:
Sitting at a gas station as some backwards baseball cap and saggass
britches wearing kid parks in the fire zone in front of the store with
some fukdamuhfukinniggahbeyotch crap blasting out of his truck for
everyone's entertainment, got me to thinking.

Would it be possible to build a gizmo that could be surreptitiously
aimed at the offending stereo system to fry some crucial components?
It would have to be able to do it on a pretty localized basis without
causing damage to the person aiming the gizmo or innocent bystanders
or their car's electronics. Whether it would fry any additional
components of said target punk's car isn't of great concern.

Call it The Rapper Zapper.

Just wonderin'.

:)
In the 80's there were lots of people in my neighborhood with illegal
linear amplifiers on their CB radios. When they would key up these
unregulated, unshielded transmitter would put out harmonics on all the
radio and TV stations within a mile or so.
This loud annoying buzz would probably damage the speakers and amps of
such a system.
This would definitely be illegal in the USA and probably other countries
but it would do the trick.
 
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James Sweet

Jan 1, 1970
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Spob said:
Sitting at a gas station as some backwards baseball cap and saggass
britches wearing kid parks in the fire zone in front of the store with
some fukdamuhfukinniggahbeyotch crap blasting out of his truck for
everyone's entertainment, got me to thinking.

Would it be possible to build a gizmo that could be surreptitiously
aimed at the offending stereo system to fry some crucial components?
It would have to be able to do it on a pretty localized basis without
causing damage to the person aiming the gizmo or innocent bystanders
or their car's electronics. Whether it would fry any additional
components of said target punk's car isn't of great concern.

Call it The Rapper Zapper.

Just wonderin'.

:)

No chance someone like that is listening to broadcast radio. There's nothing
covert you could build that wouldn't damage people too.
 
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Donald

Jan 1, 1970
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Spob said:
Sitting at a gas station as some backwards baseball cap and saggass
britches wearing kid parks in the fire zone in front of the store with
some fukdamuhfukinniggahbeyotch crap blasting out of his truck for
everyone's entertainment, got me to thinking.

Would it be possible to build a gizmo that could be surreptitiously
aimed at the offending stereo system to fry some crucial components?
It would have to be able to do it on a pretty localized basis without
causing damage to the person aiming the gizmo or innocent bystanders
or their car's electronics. Whether it would fry any additional
components of said target punk's car isn't of great concern.

Call it The Rapper Zapper.

Just wonderin'.

:)
NO
 
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msg

Jan 1, 1970
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Spob wrote:

Would it be possible to build a gizmo that could be surreptitiously
aimed at the offending stereo system to fry some crucial components?

<snip>

I assume many high power radar site operators have pet stories to
tell, but I remember one that deserves a retelling:

There was a Merritt Island cop who set up a speed trap on a road perhaps
a mile downroad from a powerful range tracking radar station. The operators
were not amused with the daily harassment from him and decided to make his
life a little more interesting and theirs a little less hassled. Siting the
cop's squad car in the telescoping aiming site of the radar dish, one of the
operators briefly keyed a pulse train and watched. Soon the car left but
returned the next day. Again the operator sited and pulsed the car and again
it left. After the third day it did not return. I do not know if the tracking
radar and cop's radar gun were on the same band, however I do know that 1MW of
microwaves was sufficiently nondiscriminatory at the receiving end to burn out
its front end.

Regards,

Michael
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Jon said:
This would be awesome!!! But why shouldn't it be aimed at the person too?


Simple: Their mind is already fried.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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msg said:
Spob wrote:



<snip>

I assume many high power radar site operators have pet stories to
tell, but I remember one that deserves a retelling:

There was a Merritt Island cop who set up a speed trap on a road perhaps
a mile downroad from a powerful range tracking radar station. The operators
were not amused with the daily harassment from him and decided to make his
life a little more interesting and theirs a little less hassled. Siting the
cop's squad car in the telescoping aiming site of the radar dish, one of the
operators briefly keyed a pulse train and watched. Soon the car left but
returned the next day. Again the operator sited and pulsed the car and again
it left. After the third day it did not return. I do not know if the tracking
radar and cop's radar gun were on the same band, however I do know that 1MW of
microwaves was sufficiently nondiscriminatory at the receiving end to burn out
its front end.

Regards,

Michael


Bullshit. The antennas rotate, but the elevation is fixed. There is
no telescope on any RADAR Antenna, and no way to "Siting the cop's squad
car". There are no keying of brief pulses, the system works with a
steady stream of pulsed RF, and measuring the reflected signals. I did
some RADAR work in the US Army, and there was a pair of 2 MW pulsed
RADAR transmitters in our building. You are spreading an urban legend,
with enough holes to sink the Titanic (again). If the RADAR equipment
in a cruiser WAS damaged, it was because the idiot cop was too close to
the RADAR site, and it was a coincidence. Even this is hard to believe,
because RADAR sites are usually well inside a fenced area, far from
civilian areas, and high enough to clear close in ground clutter. The
high gain, highly directional antennas do not radiate enough near field
RF to do any damage, unless the cruiser was on very high a hilltop, and
less than a 1/4 mile from the RADAR site.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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msg

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael said:
Bullshit. The antennas rotate, but the elevation is fixed. There is
no telescope on any RADAR Antenna, and no way to "Siting the cop's squad
car".

I beg to differ. Our organization had two AN/MPQ-10A mortar tracking radars
(250kW) which had telescopic sites, could be manually aimed and manually
pulsed.

The above story was told by an operator our Apollo 12 task force got to know.

Regards,

Michael
 
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John Popelish

Jan 1, 1970
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Spob said:
Sitting at a gas station as some backwards baseball cap and saggass
britches wearing kid parks in the fire zone in front of the store with
some fukdamuhfukinniggahbeyotch crap blasting out of his truck for
everyone's entertainment, got me to thinking.

Would it be possible to build a gizmo that could be surreptitiously
aimed at the offending stereo system to fry some crucial components?
(snip)

Could it be built? Certainly. I can think of half a dozen
focused energy technologies that are within present human
technical capability. They are usually referred to as weapons.

Would you be able to afford it? Probably not. Would it be
legal to own and operate? Almost certainly not.
 
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Ken Weitzel

Jan 1, 1970
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msg said:
Spob wrote:



<snip>

I assume many high power radar site operators have pet stories to
tell, but I remember one that deserves a retelling:

There was a Merritt Island cop who set up a speed trap on a road perhaps
a mile downroad from a powerful range tracking radar station. The
operators
were not amused with the daily harassment from him and decided to make his
life a little more interesting and theirs a little less hassled. Siting
the
cop's squad car in the telescoping aiming site of the radar dish, one of
the
operators briefly keyed a pulse train and watched. Soon the car left but
returned the next day. Again the operator sited and pulsed the car and
again
it left. After the third day it did not return. I do not know if the
tracking
radar and cop's radar gun were on the same band, however I do know that
1MW of
microwaves was sufficiently nondiscriminatory at the receiving end to
burn out
its front end.

Hi...

I bet it was sufficiently nondiscriminatory at the receiving end to
burn out the cop's front end, too.

Take care.

Ken
 
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D from BC

Jan 1, 1970
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Sitting at a gas station as some backwards baseball cap and saggass
britches wearing kid parks in the fire zone in front of the store with
some fukdamuhfukinniggahbeyotch crap blasting out of his truck for
everyone's entertainment, got me to thinking.

Would it be possible to build a gizmo that could be surreptitiously
aimed at the offending stereo system to fry some crucial components?
It would have to be able to do it on a pretty localized basis without
causing damage to the person aiming the gizmo or innocent bystanders
or their car's electronics. Whether it would fry any additional
components of said target punk's car isn't of great concern.

Call it The Rapper Zapper.

Just wonderin'.

:)

There's not much on this page for a reason....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-energy_radio-frequency_weapons


D from BC
 
In sci.physics Michael A. Terrell said:
Bullshit. The antennas rotate, but the elevation is fixed. There is
no telescope on any RADAR Antenna, and no way to "Siting the cop's squad
car". There are no keying of brief pulses, the system works with a
steady stream of pulsed RF, and measuring the reflected signals. I did
some RADAR work in the US Army, and there was a pair of 2 MW pulsed
RADAR transmitters in our building. You are spreading an urban legend,
with enough holes to sink the Titanic (again). If the RADAR equipment
in a cruiser WAS damaged, it was because the idiot cop was too close to
the RADAR site, and it was a coincidence. Even this is hard to believe,
because RADAR sites are usually well inside a fenced area, far from
civilian areas, and high enough to clear close in ground clutter. The
high gain, highly directional antennas do not radiate enough near field
RF to do any damage, unless the cruiser was on very high a hilltop, and
less than a 1/4 mile from the RADAR site.

US Army Nike had a missle track, target track and a target range radar,
all of which were steerable in both azimuth and elevation.

Since Nike radars were normally deployed on the highest hill around,
the MTR, TTR, and TRR could all be depressed below the horizon.

All of them were boresighted and aligned by bolting on the telescope,
going to manual control, and aiming them with a box that hung by a strap
around your neck at the alignment target about a quarter mile away.

We used to regularly break the MP's speed radar at Ft Bliss until the
MP's wised up and made sure there was a metal building between them
and us.

We could wipe them out to about a mile away and jam them a lot
farther than that.

This was the late 60's.

While I was in Korea, a spook detachment set up a listening post
down the hill from us.

They were a bunch of jerks and pissed off everyone, so I gave their
equipment the same treatment.

They moved to the next mountain after they got their gear fixed.

Tell me more about your toy radars.
 
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Guy Macon

Jan 1, 1970
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Bass-seeking missle. Someone here needs to invent
a bass-seeking missle. I will order at least a dozen.

<SFX: Car playing really loud rap music at 3 AM:>

Boom Budda Boom Budda Boom Budda *BLAM!*
 
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Benj

Jan 1, 1970
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Dear said:
FYI- there is a system already fielded for 20 years, that does fry
electronics, military uses it.

Yes, "fry". Did you guys see the 60 minutes piece some time ago about
some "inventor" who had a device to "fry" auto computers. Details were
sparce, but clearly seemed to be some kind of cross between a tesla
coil and a microwave pulser. He stopped a running car at some
distance (cheated by having hood up).

The point is that any solid state device always has a bunch of semi-
conductors that follow the rule: Semiconductor parts make better fuses
than fuses! Usually most solid state circuit boards have some of
these are low voltage parts that can't take much emi.

I wouldn't be surprised if cops had emi car stoppers right now. Sure
beats a 100 MPH chase or those tire spikes that could send a 100 MPH
car into a neighborhood house. I have also heard rumors that all
modern car computers have "secret" codes that can be transmitted into
them that stops them. Wouldn't surprise me a bit.
 
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