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Discussion in 'Electronic Repair' started by Meat Plow, Mar 17, 2007.

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  1. Meat Plow

    Meat Plow Guest

    If the $40 is applied to the repair, yes.
     
  2. HarryB

    HarryB Guest

    I have a 2 1/2 year old, 27" Sanyo DS27930 TV that began to
    occasionally turn itself off last week, but now won't turn on at all -
    it just makes a buzzing noise for a few seconds when I try to turn it
    on, and then turns itself off. 9 months ago it fell off its stand onto
    a carpeted floor, but worked fine after that until this problem
    cropped up.

    I'm trying to decide if I should repair or replace it. According to
    Consumer Reports, "It doesn't make economic sense to repair
    off-warranty ... conventional TV sets under 30 inches." Do the experts
    here agree with Consumer Reports' recommendation, or should I pay
    ($40) for an estimate to see how much it would cost to have it
    repaired?

    TIA,
    Harry
     
  3. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest


    You're probably looking at $100 or so for the repair and you could
    expect a few more years out of it then. Only you can determine if that's
    worth it.
     
  4. JANA

    JANA Guest

    If the $40 is deducted from the repair, and the repair is a simple one, then
    it may pay to repair. Also, you have to consider that after the repair is
    done, there is no guarantee of how long the rest of the set will last. The
    average repair for most common faults in TV sets, with about 1 hour of
    labour, can range from about $70 to $120 depending on the time and parts
    involved.

    Generally speaking, it does not pay to service any TV set or appliance
    unless it is a fairly expensive device, it is less than about 3 years old,
    and it has had very little use.

    --

    JANA
    _____


    I have a 2 1/2 year old, 27" Sanyo DS27930 TV that began to
    occasionally turn itself off last week, but now won't turn on at all -
    it just makes a buzzing noise for a few seconds when I try to turn it
    on, and then turns itself off. 9 months ago it fell off its stand onto
    a carpeted floor, but worked fine after that until this problem
    cropped up.

    I'm trying to decide if I should repair or replace it. According to
    Consumer Reports, "It doesn't make economic sense to repair
    off-warranty ... conventional TV sets under 30 inches." Do the experts
    here agree with Consumer Reports' recommendation, or should I pay
    ($40) for an estimate to see how much it would cost to have it
    repaired?

    TIA,
    Harry
     
  5. Guest

    Always get a free quote. If your repair shop wont do that, find
    another one. Backstreet type shops are often a lot cheaper, and often
    the only worthwhile option with electronics.

    The repair age is not dead yet, but theres now more thats not worth
    repairing than is.


    NT
     
  6. Dani

    Dani Guest

    I agree with Meow. Also, Sanyo TV's are a good buy, & usually worth
    repairing, if you get a free estimate, & have a
    reasonable shop, or buddy in the business. If the TV worked after
    being dropped, you MAY have a break in the main
    board, likely be the flyback transformer, & it finally arced out
    across the break, you may have a bad horizontal output.
    Dani.
     
  7. Guest

    I'll assume you're not inclined to attempt a repair yourself. If so,
    then I would first determine what a new set will cost. These days,
    even a new large-screen TV is fairly inexpensive--often less than
    $300. If that isn't appealing, consider picking up a second hand set
    (via Craigslist, for example).

    Acquiring a second-hand set may seem laughable (and stingy), but
    considering that high-definition TV is less than two years away, and
    any standard format set you have now will shortly become obsolete
    (unless you spend additional money for a yet-to-be-available converter
    box), this is a reasonable option.

    On the other hand, if you're mechanically inclined, you could open it
    up and see if there's any obvious damage to an accessible component.
    If you spot the problem, this may save the repair shop the time--and
    your money--to diagnose the problem. I did this a few years back with
    a set that would pulse on and off, sometimes in the middle of the
    night (frightening!). I knew the problem was in the power supply, so
    I took the set to a local repair shop and accurately describe the
    symtoms. The repairman said, "Oh yeah, that's a common problem with
    the XYZ transistor in the high-voltage line--Thanks!" The repair bill
    was about $50. That was 17 years ago, and the set still works.

    -Dave
     
  8. Just to clarify, 2 years is the changeover to DIGITAL-only broadcasting.
    There is no requirement that it be HD. Stations are free to use their
    frequency allocation any way they want. Many just multi-cast multiple SD
    feeds.
     
  9. Ken G.

    Ken G. Guest

    100$ to do some soldering ? I do those for 35 or 40$ . It takes less
    than an hour and i get the customer back many times over on other items
    and they tell others .
    The extra business far outweighs trying to rip people off .
     
  10. Not exactly true. They AFAIK are required to have one unencrypted sub
    channel. The rest is up to the station. The FCC recently made a rule change
    that made The Tube go away. A crystal ball is required to know how it will
    turn out.

    Digital, including HD, is here. Analog goes away in 2 years. Have been
    watching all the networks through antenna for 2-1/2 years. All the stations
    I receive have HD in the evening(at least). I'd kick myself if I'd waited
    this long to go digital.
     
  11. Why are you assuming that anyone is ripping people off? Read the posts and
    respond with something useful, if you have something useful to say.

    Leonard
     
  12. Bad advice. A shop that gives free estimates or "backstreet" type shops are
    often the most likey to rip you off or give you ineffective service IME.

    Leonard
     
  13. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest

    They've been available for years, digital satellite receivers and
    digital cable boxes convert to analog TV output.
     
  14. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest


    Depends if it's JUST soldering, or if other work is needed. Often bad
    solder joints pop other parts.
     
  15. Hi!
    I would at least investigate a repair. If you stop right now and take the
    set to a competent repair shop, the problem should be easier and less
    expensive to repair. Waiting until the set really blows up or fails to turn
    on entirely will make the repair more difficult and expensive.

    The only thing working against you is the fact that it was dropped. Even if
    it fell onto the carpet from its stand, falling just the right way can cause
    serious and not immediately evident damage to a device. Fortunately, if
    damage was done, it would have been pretty obvious because the tube is by
    far the most delicate component of the TV. If the picture was good when it
    stopped working, then a repair is much more likely to be worthwhile.

    William
     
  16. Maybe "The Tube" is gone by you, but it's still here in the Chicago area
    on WGN 9.2.

    The FCC did recently rule that ALL subchannels have to comply with E/I
    (Education/Information) rules. Before, it was assumed only the primary
    needed to comply. I don't know if it's national, but here in Chicago,
    they run some zoo program that talks about animals with jazz playing in
    the background on Saturday mornings.

    There are several stations here in the Chicago area that only carry one
    or more SD's.

    On the other hand, the main PBS station, WTTW-11, is going overboard. It
    reduced it's HD from 1080i to 720p (for PBS-HD), and how has THREE SD
    subchannels (simulcast of the analog, PBS Create, the new Spanish-
    language V-me.)
     

  17. For some people that means all TV goes away in two years. There is
    no way that I am going to buy a new HD TV set just to watch the same old
    crap that I see right now. In fact, about the only TV I watch is the
    news, and even it isn't worth paying for. I'll keep one TV and the DVD
    player till one of them quit working, and have the cable turned off.


    --
    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
  18. Jamie

    Jamie Guest

    I've also been thinking on the same lines. very simple basic TV and
    internet./
    I pay 158 a month for nothing but crap!. Old repeats over and over
    again.
    it's not worth it any more.
    I would rather stop at block buster and watch a DVD commercial free.
     
  19. From posts in the HD group I'd guess still having The Tube is the exception.
    Mostly pointing out that rules are still changing.
    I said in my area. Sure you have SD channels but you also have all the HD
    channels. Dayton,OH isn't exactly huge and has all HD. Small cities may have
    SD only stations. Characterizing the nation as being mostly SD is wrong.
    I'm getting 3 PBS stations through cable. 2 of the stations are as you say
    except the last SD is an Ohio channel. PQ is terrible on it. Not aware of
    them making changes to HD here. The third channel from Cincinnati is HD and
    one SD, 24/7. Great PQ. My HDTV is 720p so the extra bandwidth for the SD
    subchannels would be a good thing. It's going to be different for everyone.
     
  20. Nothing to discuss if you don't like TV. I watch TV mostly in HD(1080i/720.
    Not crappy 480p/i. Have been capturing it to my computers hard drives,
    skipping commercials and watching what I want when I want for 2+ years.
    Cards can be bought for much less than $100. Now have an HD media player
    that I send the shows to through the home network and watch it on the HDTV.
    About 10 years ago my big TV bit the dust after 15 years. Bought a 20" to
    hold me till HD became reasonable. Had no idea it'd be this long. After 2
    months of watching the HDTV still have to pinch myself to make sure I'm not
    dreaming about the PQ. Got to go finish watching the NASCAR race now.
     
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