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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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TI's new 74aup line of cmos logic gates features dramatically-lower
dynamic power consumption. (As you should know, cmos logic has zero
DC power usage, so dynamic "ac" power consumption is what matters.)

For example, TI's 74aup1G14 cmos IC is a single-gate Schmitt-trigger,
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/sn74aup1g14.html and its
power-dissipation capacitance (Pd = f C V^2) is an amazingly-low 4pF
(for Vcc = 0.8 to 3.3V). Compare to 9pF for TI's older 'ahc1G14
part, 10pF for ON Semi's 74hc1G14 part, 12pF for the Philips part,
and 21pF for TI's 74lvc1G14 and ST's 74v1G14 parts, just to take a
few examples (ditto for their 74aup1G125 buffer, etc., only 4pF).

When used at 0.8V, TI's 74aup parts are real power-consumption misers.
Make a low-power Schmitt-trigger relaxation oscillator, and all kinds
of other cool stuff. Hmm... I wonder what the competition is doing.
 
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Rene Tschaggelar

Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield said:
TI's new 74aup line of cmos logic gates features dramatically-lower
dynamic power consumption. (As you should know, cmos logic has zero
DC power usage, so dynamic "ac" power consumption is what matters.)

For example, TI's 74aup1G14 cmos IC is a single-gate Schmitt-trigger,
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/sn74aup1g14.html and its
power-dissipation capacitance (Pd = f C V^2) is an amazingly-low 4pF
(for Vcc = 0.8 to 3.3V). Compare to 9pF for TI's older 'ahc1G14
part, 10pF for ON Semi's 74hc1G14 part, 12pF for the Philips part,
and 21pF for TI's 74lvc1G14 and ST's 74v1G14 parts, just to take a
few examples (ditto for their 74aup1G125 buffer, etc., only 4pF).

When used at 0.8V, TI's 74aup parts are real power-consumption misers.
Make a low-power Schmitt-trigger relaxation oscillator, and all kinds
of other cool stuff. Hmm... I wonder what the competition is doing.

What i really like on this ultra low voltage stuff is
how to interface to normal logic. This is where the
part count goes up.

Rene
 
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Chris Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield said:
TI's new 74aup line of cmos logic gates features dramatically-lower
dynamic power consumption. (As you should know, cmos logic has zero
DC power usage, so dynamic "ac" power consumption is what matters.)

For example, TI's 74aup1G14 cmos IC is a single-gate Schmitt-trigger,
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/sn74aup1g14.html and its
power-dissipation capacitance (Pd = f C V^2) is an amazingly-low 4pF
(for Vcc = 0.8 to 3.3V). Compare to 9pF for TI's older 'ahc1G14
part, 10pF for ON Semi's 74hc1G14 part, 12pF for the Philips part,
and 21pF for TI's 74lvc1G14 and ST's 74v1G14 parts, just to take a
few examples (ditto for their 74aup1G125 buffer, etc., only 4pF).

When used at 0.8V, TI's 74aup parts are real power-consumption misers.
Make a low-power Schmitt-trigger relaxation oscillator, and all kinds
of other cool stuff. Hmm... I wonder what the competition is doing.
Doesn't the Schmitt-trigger gate draw extra current because its input is
operating near the threshold? (ok, the threshold keeps moving, but I
thought that each time you approach it, the supply draws more current.) I
wonder if there is a way around this. If you could run the supply at less
than the sum of the N-ch and P-ch threshold voltages, that would be a
start, but then I think Schmitt triggers don't work under that condition.

Chris
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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Chris Jones wrote...
Doesn't the Schmitt-trigger gate draw extra current because its input
is operating near the threshold? (ok, the threshold keeps moving, but I
thought that each time you approach it, the supply draws more current.)
I wonder if there is a way around this. If you could run the supply at
less than the sum of the N-ch and P-ch threshold voltages, that would be
a start, but then I think Schmitt triggers don't work under that condition.

Actually, you raise a point, which is that the dynamic power-dissipation
capacitance is measured with fast-risetime full-logic-swing test signals
applied to the gate. Obviously a Schmitt-trigger gate (or any gate) will
draw much more current when operating with a low-voltage slow-risetime
input. You may be able to infer an improved performance for these parts
under such a conditions, but you won't be able to come up with an actual
number from the datasheet specs.
 
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Don Lancaster

Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield said:
Chris Jones wrote...



Actually, you raise a point, which is that the dynamic power-dissipation
capacitance is measured with fast-risetime full-logic-swing test signals
applied to the gate. Obviously a Schmitt-trigger gate (or any gate) will
draw much more current when operating with a low-voltage slow-risetime
input. You may be able to infer an improved performance for these parts
under such a conditions, but you won't be able to come up with an actual
number from the datasheet specs.

In general, bipolar transistors usually beat out CMOS for ultra low
power oscillators.


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Chris said:
Doesn't the Schmitt-trigger gate draw extra current because its input is
operating near the threshold? (ok, the threshold keeps moving, but I
thought that each time you approach it, the supply draws more current.) I
wonder if there is a way around this. If you could run the supply at less
than the sum of the N-ch and P-ch threshold voltages, that would be a
start, but then I think Schmitt triggers don't work under that condition.

Chris

I measure 700uA @ Vdd = +4V for this fellow (below), and about half
that at Vdd = +3V.


' R1 68k
' ___ D1
' .-------|___|-----|<----.
' | |
' | |
' | R2 2meg |
' | ___ |
' o--------|___|----------o
' | |
' | __ |
' o---------| \ |
' | | )o--------+--> 600uS x 66Hz
' | Vdd ---|__/
' |
' --- 74hc132
' --- C1
' | 22nF Vdd = +4V
' | Idd = 700uA
' GND

(created by AACircuit v1.28.4 beta 13/12/04 www.tech-chat.de)

Regards,
James Arthur
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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[email protected] wrote...
I measure 700uA @ Vdd = +4V for this fellow (below), and about half
that at Vdd = +3V.

' R1 68k D1
' .-------|___|-----|<----.
' | |
' | R2 2meg |
' o--------|___|----------o
' | __ |
' o---------| \ |
' | | )o--------+--> 600uS x 66Hz
' | Vdd ---|__/
' --- 74hc132
' --- C1
' | 22nF Vdd = +4V
' GND Idd = 700uA

Those numbers are in line with some of the datasheet graphs for
74hc132 current consumption for linear inputs, such as those in
the Philips datasheet. We can speculate how TI's new 74aup parts
might fare by comparison. Their 4pF power-dissipation capacitance
is 3 to 8 times lower than the power-dissipation capacitance specs
for various manufacturer's 74hc132 parts, which is one comparison
factor, and they can be operated at much lower voltages, which is
another.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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TI's new 74aup line of cmos logic gates features dramatically-lower
dynamic power consumption. (As you should know, cmos logic has zero
DC power usage, so dynamic "ac" power consumption is what matters.)

For example, TI's 74aup1G14 cmos IC is a single-gate Schmitt-trigger,
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/sn74aup1g14.html and its
power-dissipation capacitance (Pd = f C V^2) is an amazingly-low 4pF
(for Vcc = 0.8 to 3.3V). Compare to 9pF for TI's older 'ahc1G14
part, 10pF for ON Semi's 74hc1G14 part, 12pF for the Philips part,
and 21pF for TI's 74lvc1G14 and ST's 74v1G14 parts, just to take a
few examples (ditto for their 74aup1G125 buffer, etc., only 4pF).

When used at 0.8V, TI's 74aup parts are real power-consumption misers.
Make a low-power Schmitt-trigger relaxation oscillator, and all kinds
of other cool stuff. Hmm... I wonder what the competition is doing.

Tapered turn-on/off output stages. First developed for ground bounce
reasons.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim Thompson wrote...
Tapered turn-on/off output stages. First developed for ground
bounce reasons.

Please give us a detailed tutorial. Thanks in advance.
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim Thompson wrote...

Please give us a detailed tutorial. Thanks in advance.

Pretty trivial, once you see it...

Imagine an RC delay line with an MOS gate at each tap. Size the
delays and device sizes appropriately and you can create just about
any shape of rise and fall time, with appropriate reduction in current
spike... my favorite, of course, is TANH ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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keith

Jan 1, 1970
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Chris Jones wrote...

Actually, you raise a point, which is that the dynamic power-dissipation
capacitance is measured with fast-risetime full-logic-swing test signals
applied to the gate. Obviously a Schmitt-trigger gate (or any gate) will
draw much more current when operating with a low-voltage slow-risetime
input. You may be able to infer an improved performance for these parts
under such a conditions, but you won't be able to come up with an actual
number from the datasheet specs.

Sure, but a schmitt trigger's feedback will insure that it's in the linear
range for a short period. CMOS conducts massively in the
linear/crossover/shoot-through region. Once the output snaps it should
draw very little current. A schmitt trigger should make a slow input
far less of a problem (the gain thing).
 
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Winfield Hill

Jan 1, 1970
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keith wrote...
Sure, but a schmitt trigger's feedback will insure that it's in the
linear range for a short period. CMOS conducts massively in the
linear/crossover/shoot-through region. Once the output snaps it should
draw very little current. A schmitt trigger should make a slow input
far less of a problem (the gain thing).

Not quite. After the output snaps the output stage will draw very
little current, but the input stage, which was the current-drawing
offender to begin with, still draws substantial current, and it will
continue to do so until the *input voltage* moves well away from the
trigger voltage. The Philips datasheet shows this effect clearly,
especially if the part is operated at 5V. Lower-voltage parts do
better, but the 74LV132 still shows this effect when operated at 3V.

http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/datasheets/74HC_HCT132_CNV_2.pdf
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/datasheets/74LV132_3.pdf

It would be interesting to see such a plot for TI's new 74aup1G14.
 
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